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Title: Puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 04:32:18 pm
why is it that if i place an add on gumtree it will show on 1st page of google but my website can't be found anywere  ???
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on July 24, 2012, 04:50:54 pm
Have you submitted your site for indexing?
Have your webpages been indexed by Google?
Is your site optimised for google?
Does your site have a site map?

Just 4 of many questions I could ask...

What is your web address? I will take a look at it for you.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 04:56:11 pm
hi it's

www.dryerfusion.co.uk

it's all i can afford for now.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Mike Halliday on July 24, 2012, 05:16:13 pm
How much is mark at dp charging for websites now? Or Kev loomes, I bet you could buy a 5 page website for less that £300.

I meen no disrespect but you are not doing yourself any favours by designing your own website.... If monies a bit tight use your credit card.

Google probably does,nt know your webste exists, when did you finish it as you were asking questions about the design a few days ago
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: garry22 on July 24, 2012, 05:30:39 pm
Google does know it exists (and it's indexed)... 

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.dryerfusion.co.uk%2F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Phil,

Gumtree is a huge authority site (in Google's eyes at least) whilst yours is a tiny newish site with no social activity or backlinks. As far as Google is concerned, under the current alghorithm, Gumtree is far more relevant to the search query than your site.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 05:34:58 pm
iv'e been on it for days mike and that's were i'm at now also my credit card is maxed lol but i think for now this will do, then when i pick up i'l invest.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Mike Halliday on July 24, 2012, 05:37:50 pm
Have  you got your  google places page set up?

Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 05:39:47 pm
????????????? don't know how or what it is Mike.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Steve Chapman on July 24, 2012, 05:45:00 pm
you normally have to wait at least two weeks before google does anything sensible with your rankings


Steve
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: garry22 on July 24, 2012, 06:49:48 pm
Phil,

Like it or not you have a first page ranking (Gumtree).

Google has given your entry authority via Gumtree. You need to piggy back on this authority whilst it lasts, even if it means fresh ads on a regular basis.

Rule number one = get it into Google any way you can.   It does not have to be your actual site.

If this means using Gumtree's authority, so be it. You'll probably find you get pretty much instant rankings doing it this way.

You are welcome to use my Dry Fusion videos from the collection above this one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZX-vhqFj2o  although most are watermarked some may not be of much use on your site.

ps Just changing the title of the home page to "Carpet Cleaning Fleetwood" or "Carpet Cleaning Fleetwood - Dry in 30 Minutes" should help a lot.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 06:57:25 pm
Thanks mate do you get much from youtube and should i think of making a video myself ?

Thanks Phil.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on July 24, 2012, 07:03:34 pm
Trouble with hanging all your hats on google is that if it shakes a 7 then your new business is gone not all eggs should be put in the same basket.

Shaun
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 07:11:50 pm
I'm just trying to do whatever i can to get the phone ringing without a budget it's hard i think all this rain is putting people off aswell.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: markpowell on July 24, 2012, 07:59:00 pm
Get the leaflets out mate, be the master of your own destiny, Im with shaun on this one.
Mark
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 08:07:06 pm
will do iv'e got 4000 still to post as the saying goe's i need to pull me finger out  ;D
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on July 24, 2012, 08:10:03 pm
hi it's

www.dryerfusion.co.uk

it's all i can afford for now.

Mate...  "its all wrong"..... I can get your website in the top 10 of google GUANTEED and ....look I wont charge you a penny.

I do my own websites and I get within top 5 of google in 1 week.

Trust me I can sort it.

I am not going to waste my time giving you the sales pitch and ... look If I can help .... I will.


Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: cannon on July 24, 2012, 08:13:09 pm
Trouble with hanging all your hats on google is that if it shakes a 7 then your new business is gone not all eggs should be put in the same basket.

Shaun

Spot on there Shaun i learnt the hard way, relied too much on google and then literally overnight everthing stopped.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Brendan (chem2clean) on July 24, 2012, 08:19:26 pm
hi carpet cleaning pro,what kind of cost for your seo services.How many keywords?
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 24, 2012, 08:23:10 pm
Thanks Carpet Cleaning pro i would like your help but don't have any funds to spend at the moment how can you help me.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Mike Halliday on July 24, 2012, 08:31:33 pm
all but 1 organic listing for fleetwood carpet cleaners is a directory of some sort.

google can't find any relevant results so sticks anything up, in my very limited knowledge I think it would be possible with a bit of basic SEO get on the first page

is fleetwood carpet cleaners a search term you would think customers would use to find you?
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Carpet2Clean on July 24, 2012, 09:07:36 pm
Hi Phil

Google can take weeks before you get near the first page,its all about your seo score ,keywords, meta tags etc...Go on to Whois (domain tools website) and tap in your domain name this will give you your score for each section.

My website is a 1&1 website (basic) been listed for about a month now.On first page now.
Also try and get yourself on Google maps this can help your website get read more by google.

Hope this little bit can help you out mate.

Richard & Tara
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: *Hector* on July 24, 2012, 09:17:15 pm
hi it's

www.dryerfusion.co.uk

it's all i can afford for now.

Mate...  "its all wrong"..... I can get your website in the top 10 of google GUANTEED and ....look I wont charge you a penny.

I do my own websites and I get within top 5 of google in 1 week.

Trust me I can sort it.

I am not going to waste my time giving you the sales pitch and ... look If I can help .... I will.




Phil.....

Mick here has said that he will SEO your site for FREE.........  ;D ;D ;D

Email him pronto with your password (you can change it again later) and let him sort if for you... Then you put out the rest of your leaflets and watch the business start to roll in..

BUT Mail him your password tonight........
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Carpet2Clean on July 24, 2012, 09:23:55 pm
Hi Phil

Just been on to domain tool.com.Your SEO score is 86 overall.Your website title is 75.

Try and add your town in the website title mate.Also been on your back page (view-source).


Richard
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: wynne jones on July 24, 2012, 10:45:26 pm
When the majority of carpet cleaners become experts in SEO you realise it's not where the advantage is anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Carpet2Clean on July 24, 2012, 11:18:42 pm
Just trying to help Wynne
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: clinton on July 25, 2012, 07:57:43 am
Get your leaflets out for a starter mate..

You should be getting work with your dry fusion set up.

It would be worth getting a decent site done as it would hopefully bring in extra work for you .
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: wynne jones on July 25, 2012, 07:58:52 am
Carpet2Clean

I know you are and the ideas everyone is making are all valid.

My point is major competitive advantage comes from knowing things and applying them to your business that hardly anyone else does.  

Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: *Hector* on July 25, 2012, 08:25:05 am
I agree and Phil has an advantage that a lot do not... He has a dry fusion system that he is licenced for, and as such has a unique selling point that a lot of us do not...


Even me who only LM clean... I do not have dry fusion..

So that should be in big letters

people buy features and benefits.

The feature is a unique point.. (customer cares less about this) but how does it benefit the customer..

eg:

"we have the unique dry fusion system...... This means that your carpets are clean, fresh and most importantly DRY before we even leave the house" (provided you give us a cup of coffee at the end...

I am sure that there is only so much SEO that can be applied to websites (what I know about computers and t'internet you could write on a stamp and still have space for my CV)

all the SEO companies must be doing the same thing... same keywords etc... So where do we go from here??
I don't know...


just musing aloud really..

sorry

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 25, 2012, 09:44:59 am
hi it's

www.dryerfusion.co.uk

it's all i can afford for now.

Mate...  "its all wrong"..... I can get your website in the top 10 of google GUANTEED and ....look I wont charge you a penny.

I do my own websites and I get within top 5 of google in 1 week.

Trust me I can sort it.

I am not going to waste my time giving you the sales pitch and ... look If I can help .... I will.




Phil.....

Mick here has said that he will SEO your site for FREE.........  ;D ;D ;D

Email him pronto with your password (you can change it again later) and let him sort if for you... Then you put out the rest of your leaflets and watch the business start to roll in..

BUT Mail him your password tonight........
i have emailed Mick with pword hope he can help.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 25, 2012, 09:46:11 am
When the majority of carpet cleaners become experts in SEO you realise it's not where the advantage is anymore.  ;D
Being on the 1st page of google for free in my eyes is a big advantage.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on July 25, 2012, 10:35:21 am
another thing that could help but Dry Fusion don't seem interested maybe because i'm not 1 of the big spenders or maybe they want to have the work themselves but when it says find a fusioneer on there website there isn't me in fleetwood i asked them ages ago and they said it's getting updated but never has  :(
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: gaz1984mcc on July 25, 2012, 10:36:33 am
Honestly Phil your on the wrong site/forum for advice on SEO take a look at most of the carpet cleaners websites on here all they have done is buy a domain name containing the town/city they want to target eg. www.carpetcleaningmanchester.com
which is the quickest way of getting ranked highly on Google.
It also means that you will need multiple domains for each town you want to target. Which can be a real pain to manage especially if you want to keep your website updated with fresh content. I did exactly that when i first started but now i just concentrate on my main website which is my actual company's name. It's now ranked highly for every town and city i have targeted from just the one website which is so much easier to manage.
It' harder to do to start off with. But in the long run it will save you loads of time and hopefully a bit of Money.

Gary
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: garry22 on July 25, 2012, 11:48:34 am
Quote
Honestly Phil your on the wrong site/forum for advice on SEO take a look at most of the carpet cleaners websites on here all they have done is buy a domain name containing the town/city they want to target eg. www.carpetcleaningmanchester.com
which is the quickest way of getting ranked highly on Google.
It also means that you will need multiple domains for each town you want to target. Which can be a real pain to manage especially if you want to keep your website updated with fresh content. I did exactly that when i first started but now i just concentrate on my main website which is my actual company's name. It's now ranked highly for every town and city i have targeted from just the one website which is so much easier to manage.
It' harder to do to start off with. But in the long run it will save you loads of time and hopefully a bit of

Hear, hear. Well said. Most CC sites rank due to lack of competition
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: wynne jones on July 25, 2012, 05:06:51 pm
When the majority of carpet cleaners become experts in SEO you realise it's not where the advantage is anymore.  ;D
Being on the 1st page of google for free in my eyes is a big advantage.

To me that means failure. If you are number 1 you are still fourth on the list thanks to adwords revisions and the size of the box drops most page 1 results below the fold.

We've had a good run with SEO for 3-4 years but it's old hat now.
Title: Re: puzzled by google
Post by: garry22 on July 25, 2012, 05:42:01 pm
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We've had a good run with SEO for 3-4 years but it's old hat now.

Yep.

Up until recently I had a sixteen item list for just on page SEO before I did anything else.

If I used it now I'd get pasted by the latest alghorithm.

I don't see large comparison sites worrying about SEO. They just pump money into real world advertising. They are effectively, Google proof.

Just because you have a website, it does not mean you have to worry about promoting it exclusively on line. Why be totally dependent on the whim of a newly graduated maths genius?