Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: William McCafferty on July 21, 2012, 08:23:10 am
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According to a friend of mine, I am old fashioned by still not using microsplitters all the time, over the years I have tried it and I have seen the workmanship from his jobs, but I like my fomula 90, double clean and power burst.
At times I have had to re-clean carpet that have been clean with liquid microsplitters and I always find that my waste tank foams up, sometimes quite badly, when I re-clean my customers I don't get this level of foaming.
Yesterday I did a re-clean on one of my mates customers carpet which he cleaned 6 months ago, he was not able to do it as they wanted it done urgently as they are selling up and they have a viewing today.
The carpet was in a ok condition, but it did have some spots from food and drinks around the borders of the chairs and settees and dining table.
Anyway I did not use defoamer as I normally do on all jobs I do, I used double clean and 1 scoop of power burst per bucket of water.
After cleaning half of the 1st room I went and checked my waste tank and it was full of foam, so I emptied, flushed out with water and applied de-foamer and finshed the job.
At the end when I had finshed I re-checked my waste tank and there was a high level of foam compared with re-cleans on my customers who are not cleaned with microsplitters.
He has never used the powered microsplitter, so I was wondering if this would be better than the liquid version, by not leaving a residue in the carpet that the liquid version seems to do.
Your thoughts please
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Theres nothing old fashioned in using detergents for cleaning. Microsplitters are only a phosphate salts solution. They all work in the same way by detaching dirt from fibres and holding it in suspension whether its detergent based or a microsplitter.
I see you say you put a scoop of Power Burst per bucket of water. Power Burst is designed to be used as a pre-spray not a tank detergent.
Formula 90 powder is one of the best tank detergents on the market worldwide so you will be fine using that.
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Normally I do use power burst for the pre spray but it does help by adding a little to the rank as well,
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In my experience MS whether liquid or powder have never given me a foaming issue.
The only times would be when custy has used a RD or copious amounts of 1001/Vanish on spots and stains. Obviously using a detergent in your rinse is going to cause foaming whatever you are using in a prespray.
Get a tub of SPM and use plain water in your tank, you won't need the extra help from an in tank detergent or acid rinse.
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Good grief....
I agree with Wynne for once. :o :o :o
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it might be the interaction of the M/S and in-tank detergent,
i usually never have a problem with foam using pure clean, but have for the last few months been using F90 liquid to rinse ..... I have noticed a slight foam on the discharge pipe
I believe M/S are a water softening agent so will encourage lathering up, like when using a shower with a softening unit.
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Liquid microsplitter is probably not great value as there is no standard concentration and you are probably paying for a large plastic can full of water with a tiny scoop of STPP in it ...
'microsplitter ' on its own is probably adaquate to get good results from most jobs ...
I prefer a slightly more complex cleaning solution ...
Example ... Alltec Ultimate master ... which contains
30% STPP ( microsplitter )
carbonates ( i persume thats sodium percarbonate as a ' brightening agent ' , which would make it a quite a similar formulation to SPM ( could argue that bleaching agent not desirable in all cases )
surfactant as a wetting agent
Perfume ( have had customers remark that the room smells fresher )
defoamer
The brand names/marketing go in/out of fashion , but the product constituents are largely the same , and id say many brands are probably made in the same factory / lab
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I believe M/S are a water softening agent so will encourage lathering up, like when using a shower with a softening unit.
That could be the reason
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Normally I do use power burst for the pre spray but it does help by adding a little to the rank as well,
Double Clean can be added as a booster
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Like some others, I've never had a foam issue with microsplitters - other than 1001 or similar in the carpet before cleaning.
I have nothing but hor water in my solution tank.
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Try boosting your formula 90 with Energizer if you feel the need.
This will give better results than adding powerbrush or double clean.