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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: sunshine windies on July 12, 2012, 09:13:19 pm

Title: personal account or business account banking
Post by: sunshine windies on July 12, 2012, 09:13:19 pm
Went in to pay some dosh into the usual branch of my bank today, the lady working there says, you do know you cant pay these into your personal account if they are business payments dont you as this is ILLEGAL  ??? ???
Is this right? I cant imagine we all have business accounts ?
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 12, 2012, 09:15:36 pm
I know someone who only uses a personal account for his window cleaning business... not sure how mind??
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: king marko on July 12, 2012, 09:19:55 pm
Yep sounds about right fella - I almost felt like I was forced to get a business account by Barclays, they really made it difficult at my local branch to pay in chqs and cash every week.
On the plus side, I opened an account with HSBC which gives free business banking for 18 months.
After that, I don't mind shopping around and taking my business elsewhere if I can get a better deal :)
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: sunshine windies on July 12, 2012, 09:29:13 pm
i guess they are keen to get me over to a business account as obviously i'll be paying for that (with lloyds ) but i wonder am i actually in the wrong with what i'm doing ???

i'd rather just carry on with personal account as i cant be arsed to go through the whole opening a new account saga....
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 12, 2012, 09:33:31 pm
I bank with Santander, business account, and its free  ;)
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on July 12, 2012, 09:43:44 pm
i guess they are keen to get me over to a business account as obviously i'll be paying for that (with lloyds ) but i wonder am i actually in the wrong with what i'm doing ???

i'd rather just carry on with personal account as i cant be arsed to go through the whole opening a new account saga....
No your not in the wrong as long as you can justify which monies is use for business and which is personnel useage. But do get any cheques made into your name instead of your trading/business name.
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: robert mitchell on July 12, 2012, 09:47:19 pm
As a sole trader you are perfectly within the law using your personal account , you just have to keep a record of income and outgoings etc .

She is wrong and if I was you I would suggest to the bank that they need to train their staff better .

It's on the hmrc website .
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: sunshine windies on July 12, 2012, 09:49:59 pm
Yes thats basically what i do when it comes to tax return time, highlight all business transactions on my bank statements and send them off to my accountant,
i find it relatively easy and my custys have never once moaned about making cheques out to my name, i dont see any benefit in changing really as i know a year down the line i'll end up paying over the top business banking rates  ::)
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: sunshine windies on July 12, 2012, 10:06:18 pm
Thanks for the comments,
the battleaxe in the bank had me a bit worried earlier 
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Carl2009 on July 12, 2012, 10:08:14 pm
Try free banking via the PO / Santander / Alliance and Leicester.
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: weetot on July 12, 2012, 10:13:24 pm
As a sole trader you are perfectly within the law using your personal account , you just have to keep a record of income and outgoings etc .

She is wrong and if I was you I would suggest to the bank that they need to train their staff better .

It's on the hmrc website .

Exactly what he said!
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on July 12, 2012, 10:22:48 pm
i also started a business accont with lloyds tsb and get 18 months free
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: carl stanton on July 13, 2012, 08:16:33 am
it is not breaking the law but you are breaking the terms and conditions you agree to when taking and continuing use your personal account, but cant see how they can force you into it?
i like having a business account, keeps it all in one place.


I bank with Santander, business account, and its free  ;)
hi, it is not free for new customers, but still seem very good charges
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on July 13, 2012, 09:08:41 am
Im with Lloyds for my business account. Had my 18 months free banking and am now paying the fees.

There not bad and like any business you need to make money .... even a bank is a business.

I was going to change to a different bank once my free banking ended, but have been very impressed with Lloyds so im going to stick with them. They have been good to me so i am going to be good to them by keeping my banking with them.

I will say though that i only have the business account for cheques, bacs & standing orders ... i dont pay cash in there, that goes into a personal account (Lloyds again)
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Alex Wingrove on July 13, 2012, 10:38:52 am
Just say its personal
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on July 13, 2012, 05:41:32 pm
it is not breaking the law but you are breaking the terms and conditions you agree to when taking and continuing use your personal account, but cant see how they can force you into it?
i like having a business account, keeps it all in one place.


I bank with Santander, business account, and its free  ;)
hi, it is not free for new customers, but still seem very good charges


No... I bank with them...and its free...
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: luke g on July 13, 2012, 06:39:23 pm
Join FSB and get free banking for life with the Co-Op and all the other benefits for being a member
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: evo on July 13, 2012, 07:24:07 pm
i bank with the hsbc and use my personal account for the last 12 months with no problems at all. my accountant told me i did not need a business account so i took his advice and told them where to stick it.
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Bay View WCS on July 13, 2012, 08:01:25 pm
Went in to pay some dosh into the usual branch of my bank today, the lady working there says, you do know you cant pay these into your personal account if they are business payments dont you as this is ILLEGAL  ??? ???
Is this right? I cant imagine we all have business accounts ?

Next time she says that, just reply with: "Really, that's very interesting; could you please tell me which piece of legislation covers such illegality as I presume you wouldn't dream of making an accusation like that to a customer without an in-depth knowledge of the law."

 ;D
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: sunshine windies on July 13, 2012, 08:55:33 pm
 ;D  If i can remember that i will be sure to say it .......
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: shina on July 14, 2012, 01:21:07 am
I had the same problem with lloyds. Was fed up with em over my isa and they told me I needed a business account as I should not be paying money into a private account. I said what difference does it make if I was employed or self;employed money would still go in the only thing is mine goes in in stages. She would not have it. When I told her that Santander said I could do it so I will transfer all my banking to them she replied that they only want the custy to be happy so just carry on doing what I'm doing.
Cheek of it.
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Londoner on July 14, 2012, 09:44:01 am
I just said I already have a business account, its with Santandar over the road and they shut up after that. They are just trying it on because a) they want to charge you more b) they have quotas to meet for new business same as anybody.
Title: Re: personal account or business account banking
Post by: Dick on July 14, 2012, 01:06:18 pm
I just opened a seperate account with Santander and pay business cheques into it so it's kept seperate from personal banking. Can't see how it's ILLEGAL, maybe inconvienant for the bank not to be able to charge you as a business account, as we all know how honest and law abiding banks are.