Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Carpet Dawg on July 11, 2012, 11:38:26 pm
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Been doing alot of rugs recently and I think this tool would be a good way of saturating the buggers
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-A-Way-Water-Broom-Patio-Driveway-Jet-Water-Spray-Fast-Effective-Cleaning-/280919238791?pt=UK_Paving_Decking&hash=item4168176887
good price too.
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Saturating, as in getting them wet, OK.... but you do that by other means.
Absolutely no good as a cleaning/rinsing process, you simply don't have the pressure from a hose pipe to do that. The picture makes it look really powerful but in reality you'll need an industrial pressure washer to belt out all that water. It would p!ss out a little dribble connected to most domestic supplies.
If you want to give rugs the fully monty the only way is with a 3,000psi power washer, anything less simply won't be good enough except for maybe very thin rugs
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I'm sure Dave used one of them to rinse out the rugs on his demo on the last sunny day out, he connected it to a power washer .
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Looks ideal, think I will get one,
Cheers
Steve
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Yep they are ideal, but as above connect to pressure washer. The one on ebay is connected to a washer even though they make out a tap is powerfull enough.
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This is more like the thing Dave had or they do a cheaper aluminium one, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Broom-4-Nozzle-Pressure-Washer-Stainless-Steel-Ideal-Patio-Cleaner-NEW-/140660290739?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BIEW%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D200733046449%26ps%3D54
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Tony
Correct Dave had I’ve got now £20quid
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3,000 psi. Crickey, won't that shatter the pile?
Simon
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3,000 psi. Crickey, won't that shatter the your piles?
Simon
corrected your typo again Simon ;D ;D
brings a tear to the eye :'(
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Simon,
Titan 875 with 750 CFM - won't that rip the carpet off the floor?! ;) ;)
Answer to both: In the wrong hands maybe, in the right hands just a powerful tool that allows the operator to do the job more effectively in less time ;)
You don't hold the nozzle right down on the rug, you hold it above so the jet's fan pattern is 3 or 4 inches wide, sometimes higher up if it's a thinner rug, sometimes lower down if it's a thick chunky Chines jobbie for example, which will in no way harm it as long as you're washing with the pile not against it. The impact of the jet dramatically reduces just by holding it another couple of inches higher. Yes you would blow a hole in a very thin rug that had a weak backing, if you held the jet right down low.
I did a couple of those big Chinese ones the other day - on the drive at the front of my house! It's busy with dog walkers and parents back and forth from the school round the corner and I got a lot of gone-out stares from people!!
Total PITA getting them dry in this weather though, been correcting fringe browning on these :-\
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Jim,
Better add a centrifuge to the list mate ;D
colin.
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Jim,The Titan is designed with that level of performance specifically for the purpose of cleaning carpets.
3,000 psi is what they use to clean concrete, just seems a bit excessive given that it is a rug. Watched some videos on the TI method but they rinse them down with a standard hose, which makes more sense.
http://www.acleanerworldcarpetcleaning.com/RugCleaning.aspx
Simon
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I watched a video on carpet cleaning and they rinsed them off with a puzzi ;) ;)
Pressure out of a hose pipe is not sufficient to rinse soil away from most rugs. Until you've done it don't knock it ;)
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So those specialist rug cleaners that do it all day everyday are wrong, are they?
I've seen quite a few rug cleaning plants in the states that operate like factories but never saw them brutalising a rug with 3000 psi in the name of rinsing when if you release the soil by other means there is no need.
Simon
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Has anyone used the system the yanks use,the pits,submerge the rug in a pit full of water and then rinse.
just cleaned 15 rugs in the chem2clean depot,my kitchen and front garden,complete pain to dry.
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Colin, seriously considering it but my garage is too full!!!
Simon, some would consider a truckmount "brutalising" but we know better don't we ;) ;)
Let's say with a power washer you put 100 litres of water through a rug to wash it. With just a hose pipe at mains pressure you could put 1,000 litres of water on to it but it still would not have the same rinsing effect as the power washer.
Until you've done it don't try to knock it, because you don't understand it :-* :-*
A bit like me saying you could just bonnet buff the Queen Mary, your Titan is overkill ;)
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p.s. could the mods pls edit those links that push the page width out, as my monitor is not 25ft wide :-\
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Jim,
The 'art' of doing this job is understanding that you use only the amount of force, whether that be chemical ,or mechanical to effect a result that is in direct relationship to how dirty something is and not simply 'blunder busing' it because it seems like a good idea, which appears to be your approach.
We look after some very expensive rugs, some as much as £150 psm and although they are subject to very heavy use, far more than a domestic rug, we can make them look fantastic without resorting to extreme measures and hence my sceptissm to your approach to the same problem.
How on earth do you get a rug dry having jet washed it on your drive and not have a centrifuge?
Simon
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As much as £150/m² :o :o :o Must be a lot of Ikeas and Dunelms round your way :D
The ones I've got in at the moment are around £300/m² and I regularly handle rugs probably worth £1k/m²
The 'art' of doing this job is understanding that you use only the amount of force, whether that be chemical ,or mechanical to effect a result that is in direct relationship to how dirty something is
Quite correct.
'blunder busing' it because it seems like a good idea, which appears to be your approach.
Couldn't be more wrong. In the last few months I have probably cleaned 100 rugs but have saturation cleaned about 8 of them.
The problem is Simon you have obviously never done this sort of cleaning before; therefore you do not know what is involved and consequently you dismiss it out of hand because you simply don't understand it :)
Clearly you know very little about specialist rug cleaning.....a centrifuge will not dry a rug any more than a truckmount and wand, extracting both sides very slowly. It's the drying setup that makes the difference. The centrifuge just makes things quicker, especially one that conducts the rinse process at the same time.
Come back and preach to me about rug cleaning when you've got a specialist qualification
http://www.masterrugcleaner.net/master-rug-cleaners/members?sobi2Task=sobi2Details&catid=0&sobi2Id=44
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Oh by the way phone up Dave L and tell him he's been doing it wrong for 30 years
Let me know how it goes :)
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Steady on there Jim,you and Simon are gonna have a right fall
Out if ya ain`t careful. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
This `thread`takes me back longer than I care to remember when
At one of the NCCA training courses,Haig Abajian gave a `demo`
On how to clean carpets and rugs.
He simply laid the rug out on solid floor,put a cold water hose pipe
Under it,turned on the water and with a floor squeegee kept squeegee
Ing until the water ran clean……..Simples……… :o
That’s the only way ya can clean. :-\
Things must have moved on a `tad`since those days. ;D ;D ;D
Lewis Doubtfire
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Jim,
Just questioning the need for 3,000 psi, that's all, no need to get on your high horse. ;D
Simon
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Jim,
I and a few lads have just returned from a friends rug plant in Northern Ireland, we pit washed plenty of rugs and your right his centrifuge made it so easy from soaking out the pit to touch dry in 4 minutes.
He also used his power washer on a flat weave.
colin
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hi,for give my ignorants but whats a certrifuge.
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Like a spin drier for rugs
http://www.acleanerworldcarpetcleaning.com/RugCleaning/RugCleaningProcess/RugCleaningExtraction.aspx
Simon
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thanks simon,thats a nice set up,any idea of what they cost.
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No idea, mate, a pretty penny I'll bet, but gets the job done.
Simon
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Ten and half grand if i remember correctly. Silly money for a spinny thing!! Good investment if you do a large amount of rugs regular.
Well since my original post was highly debated (wasn't ment to be) i'll throw in another... Does it really matter if you dont get every grain of dirt/soil out of the rug? :-\ I mean the customer is non the wiser what process you've put the rug through. There is going to be no visable difference what so ever.
I find a thorough hwe clean is more than adequate on most rug cleaning issues. I only saturate when there's pet urine issues.
Making the likes of a rug badger and certrifuge's very expenive peices of kit that you could probably do with out?