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Title: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 20, 2012, 07:47:50 pm
Good evening all,

Looking to buy a new porty, budget is 3k, want to make the best out of it so I am open for suggestions.
Has to be min. 500psi, not extremely heavy, reliable, capable of running at least 75ft hose setup, auto fill/dump not necessary.
I would like to hear opinions on the different manufacturers/options, any useful info greatly appreciated  :)


Many thanks!

Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Kinver_Clean on June 20, 2012, 07:51:30 pm
Look at world of clean

http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/carpet-cleaning-machines/machines/jaguar.html
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on June 20, 2012, 08:11:57 pm
There are 2 that come to mind

Www.cleansmart.co.uk these sell the storm nice looking machine but weighs more than the jag, I have the jag easily lifted into my van but as said it isn't going to win a beauty pageant.

Shaun
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Gary Longley on June 20, 2012, 08:14:20 pm
The trouble is you want 'not too heavy', but the 5 or 600psi pump will make it heavy. Ive had heavy machines before (when I was alot younger), but now I just use small, light weight machines from Craftex. They take longer but they do the job (with the right chems). I'm finding I'm not so tired either. I still have two big buggers but only use them on full houses and commercial jobs.

IMO you may regret getting a heavy machine.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: garyhumphreys on June 20, 2012, 08:18:16 pm
Storm or Jag.

Work out which dealer or distributor is closest to you in case of service requirements or just in case any problem arises so you havent got far to travel with the machine.

Auto pump not required but you would be mad not to have it as standard methinks
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Len Gribble on June 20, 2012, 08:22:59 pm
My money was wisely spent on the black max (not a light weight so that rules it out) sorry I can’t help ;)
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Kinver_Clean on June 20, 2012, 09:25:45 pm
The Jag wieghs 42 kg, thats 2/3 the weight of my 135 Advantage.
And how many customers stand a gaze at the machine outside their door? ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 20, 2012, 09:29:45 pm
Both the Jag and the Storm is way out of budget with hoses and wand. (My very old wand and hoses are only rated to 300psi)
It doesn't have to be lightweight, I just don't want an extremely heavy machine.
I was looking at Powr flites (1380) and the Airflex Pro 600.
If I could find a decent second hand Jag or Storm that would change the game, but I don't think I'll have such luck.


Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Kinver_Clean on June 20, 2012, 09:39:35 pm
Your hoses will be fine with a higher power machine, you don't need more than 200-250 psi anyway.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: john martin on June 20, 2012, 09:41:36 pm
 Alltec Elite 500  ,  will do 75ft  and includes a 3000w built in inline heater for £2245 .


  
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: john martin on June 20, 2012, 09:58:14 pm
The Jag wieghs 42 kg, thats 2/3 the weight of my 135 Advantage.
And how many customers stand a gaze at the machine outside their door? ;D


42kg does not include cords ? does it even come with cords ? and it doesn't even have a heater , so not much inside to weight it down  ...   anyway the long horizontal body will never stair climb so low weight is of little use .   ;D

People focus on the looks , personally i don't care what it looks like as long as it functions well , but the Jag is built into a 20yo recoil body with a host of well documented flaws  ,  waste tank gate position is a joke , waste level cutoff rarely works , takes too long to access the interior if u have a fault , poor switch position( easily knocked )  poor handle  , general poor exterior finish .
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on June 20, 2012, 10:15:26 pm
I often get positive comments about the Airflex's appearance from clients.

The guys that say it doesn't matter what your machine looks like are the ones using a pig-ugly machine  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Kinver_Clean on June 20, 2012, 10:18:25 pm
My machine is a good looking Alltec, but it does'n make it clean any better.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: creighton foyle on June 20, 2012, 11:21:37 pm
i've got the airflex pro 600 50ft of hose and a wand with glide ,i have used it 4 times and i am thinking of selling it as i do not think i am likely to use it again as i am well into my low moisture cleaning, i also have a brand new inline heater that i have never used. i do have a small hwe machine if i need to use it.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 21, 2012, 08:19:59 am
i've got the airflex pro 600 50ft of hose and a wand with glide ,i have used it 4 times and i am thinking of selling it as i do not think i am likely to use it again as i am well into my low moisture cleaning, i also have a brand new inline heater that i have never used. i do have a small hwe machine if i need to use it.

Email sent Creighton.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 21, 2012, 12:48:35 pm
Alltec Elite 500  ,  will do 75ft  and includes a 3000w built in inline heater for £2245 .


  

Are you sure about the price? Any chance you could post a link?
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: creighton foyle on June 21, 2012, 01:36:31 pm
mines an airflex turbo triple vac not the airflex pro as stated earlier.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: john martin on June 21, 2012, 04:24:50 pm
Alltec Elite 500  ,  will do 75ft  and includes a 3000w built in inline heater for £2245 .


  

Are you sure about the price? Any chance you could post a link?


You have to click on the PDF link on the page for the price

http://www.alltec.co.uk/page/1gfd/Portables.html

The body is a sandia sniper  12galllon if u look it up youtube .
Alltecs changes would include  , twin vac stacks for better airflow ,two three stage vacs and the more powerfull heater .

However ... the used airflex turbo three vac offered to you above would be good buy also , capable of longer  hose runs , heater would be external .
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: james roffey on June 21, 2012, 04:42:12 pm
I often get positive comments about the Airflex's appearance from clients.

The guys that say it doesn't matter what your machine looks like are the ones using a pig-ugly machine  ;D


If the pig ugly machine was better, i would go for the pig ugly machine but it isn't, so why not have the Airflex, looks good, goes like a Storm  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on June 21, 2012, 05:05:26 pm
does it have to have 500 psi ???????  never run more then 400 here (t,m) many say i am doing it wrong but i find it better for carpets running just 300-350 not a fan of big psi and when i was porty i cleaned everything at 60 -80 psi
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 21, 2012, 05:58:25 pm
I am not planning to use the machine constantly on full power but I am sure it will be very useful in some situations.
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Simon@arenaclean on June 21, 2012, 08:48:59 pm
Mr Foyles Turbo is well priced, take his hand off and sell me the heater  ;D
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: steve prince on June 22, 2012, 03:47:07 pm
I cant recommend the airflex turbo enough  ;D looks good ,amazing results ,but bloody heavy  :'(
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: Ferenc G. on June 23, 2012, 10:23:58 am
Mr Foyles Turbo is well priced, take his hand off and sell me the heater  ;D

Its in my van now, and I keep the heater   ;D

Mr Foyles even gave me some freebies, a can of defoamer and some acid rinse. Oh yes, and a decent cup of coffee saving me falling asleep on the way back from sunny Wales. Can't complain really, thanks you Mr Foyles  :)
Title: Re: Advice needed on new porty
Post by: feldon on June 23, 2012, 12:59:49 pm
Sounds like you got a bargain there and a very good machine.  I started off with the Pro and now have the Storm and have been very pleased with both of them. :)