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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 01:32:41 pm

Title: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 01:32:41 pm
I had to buy a new brush the other day, so at the same time I thought i'd renew my hose for my CLX as it was snagged and the male rectus fitting was leaking slightly. Ive got the hose onto the brush, but for some reason I cant get the hose to fit onto the pushfit flow valve. I can get the old hose in and out of the valve so the valve isn't faulty, but the new hose doesn't seem to push in, it seams a bit more softer than the old hose? Any advice please, what am I doing wrong?!
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Mike #1 on June 17, 2012, 01:49:02 pm
Are you sure its not to big mate , If not and its warm were you are and the hose is to soft just leave it in the van  overnight , and in the morning it will be cold . Mike
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 01:53:15 pm
Same size and same colour hose  ???
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Steve Sed on June 17, 2012, 04:47:49 pm
Same size and same colour hose  ???

From Gardiners? Those fittings don't fit Pure Freedom hose.
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 04:55:21 pm
From Gardiners.
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: SB Cleaning on June 17, 2012, 05:08:40 pm
Put the hose in boiling water for a minute, it will push on easy then.
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 05:37:38 pm
This is the valve im on about:


http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_FIT_FLOW_VLV_PUSH.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_FIT_FLOW_VLV_PUSH.html)
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 05:39:31 pm
Put the hose in boiling water for a minute, it will push on easy then.

I do this to get the brush connected to the hose, but would that work for this valve? The new hose is the same colour as the original hose but seems a lot softer when you squeeze it compared to the old one.
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Steve Sed on June 17, 2012, 05:49:53 pm
Have you got a link to the hose?
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 05:54:56 pm
Have you got a link to the hose?

It may be this one:

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_PVC_YELLOW_1M.html (http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_PVC_YELLOW_1M.html)

Not 100% sure though as I didn't order the hose online, I just called them and asked for replacement. On my invoice for this new hose it says 8mm OD standard pole hose.
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Afterglow Window Cleaners on June 17, 2012, 05:59:08 pm
Have you tried cutting the end of the hose off a little, the end you're trying to fit may be damaged......you could also try reversing the valve, one side might be a bit more difficult to fit
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 06:10:18 pm
Have you tried cutting the end of the hose off a little, the end you're trying to fit may be damaged......you could also try reversing the valve, one side might be a bit more difficult to fit

Have tried both sides of the valve, doesn't work in either. It slides in but doesnt click in place like the original hose  ???
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Alex Gardiner on June 17, 2012, 06:28:22 pm
Have you tried cutting the end of the hose off a little, the end you're trying to fit may be damaged......you could also try reversing the valve, one side might be a bit more difficult to fit

Have tried both sides of the valve, doesn't work in either. It slides in but doesnt click in place like the original hose  ???

This sounds like you have purchased or been sent slightly smaller OD hose. If you are trying to use hose that has an OD of less than 8.0m then although it may look the same it will not connect properly with the flow valve teeth.

The solution is to either get the correct size 8mm hose or to fit John Guest stem to barb adapters as below:
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/JG_Tube_to_Stem_125.gif)
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: sean84 on June 17, 2012, 07:01:40 pm
Thanks for the reply, a logical solution  :) Thought I was going mad for a while there!
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: birdymiller on June 17, 2012, 07:28:46 pm
Have you tried cutting the end of the hose off a little, the end you're trying to fit may be damaged......you could also try reversing the valve, one side might be a bit more difficult to fit

Have tried both sides of the valve, doesn't work in either. It slides in but doesnt click in place like the original hose  ???

This sounds like you have purchased or been sent slightly smaller OD hose. If you are trying to use hose that has an OD of less than 8.0m then although it may look the same it will not connect properly with the flow valve teeth.

The solution is to either get the correct size 8mm hose or to fit John Guest stem to barb adapters as below:
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/JG_Tube_to_Stem_125.gif)

These john guest fittings are they an alternative to the rectus brass ones
Title: Re: WFP valve fitting problem...
Post by: Alex Gardiner on June 17, 2012, 08:38:40 pm
Have you tried cutting the end of the hose off a little, the end you're trying to fit may be damaged......you could also try reversing the valve, one side might be a bit more difficult to fit

Have tried both sides of the valve, doesn't work in either. It slides in but doesnt click in place like the original hose  ???

This sounds like you have purchased or been sent slightly smaller OD hose. If you are trying to use hose that has an OD of less than 8.0m then although it may look the same it will not connect properly with the flow valve teeth.

The solution is to either get the correct size 8mm hose or to fit John Guest stem to barb adapters as below:
(http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/JG_Tube_to_Stem_125.gif)

These john guest fittings are they an alternative to the rectus brass ones

No these are simply used to connect to the 8mm push-fit flow valves where the hose is undersized. You would still need to use a quick release coupling like a Rectus21 for connecting the pole to the hose reel.