Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Roy Cauldery on June 02, 2012, 05:39:01 am
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It would seem that this enterprise has slid silently off into the sunset.
I took a punt and looks like it backfired
Oh well,nothing ventured nothing gained
Huw has been very,very quite about it all despite a couple of emails and prompts on here from me and others
And it came with such a fanfare too
Anyone out there with more info?
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when i was on here a few months ago every post was about nwc?
really does like quiet on the nwc front and huw is nowhere to be seen.
looks like they had a good go to make it work but never happened.
was any national contracts finalised as that was the aim?
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i wonder how much money they made?
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fools and there money are soon parted
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fools and there money are soon parted
Oh Im sure Hugh covered his costs at the very least.
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fools and there money are soon parted
Hi mark, agreed but this had some weight behind it (or so it would seem)
We covered our costs from the leads we got from it so yeah, took a chance ( I also do euromillions but I don't expect to retire from glass any day soon)
Be really good to hear from Huw tho,but I fear that hes response may not be robust enought to stand up to scrutiny
Roy
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Our commercial site appears to be back on page one of google I note this morning.
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I'll check ours and report accordingly-fingers crossed
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It's the vagaries of SEO optimisation and the 'black arts'associated with it.
It's very term specific,and if I put in just our areas,we draw a blank,but it's the use of the word' residential 'that has put us on page 1 for our two sites.
I don't really know enough about it to comment further, but I read from other posts that google had changed the parameters somewhat( please feel free to comment if you can add to this)and this has had an adverse affect on some sites.
Would still like to have further input from the admin at NWC as I still feel that it has worth
Roy
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Hi Roy how are you matey!
You know what i was thinking exactly the same today about NWC, i took a punt aswell as you know but have had no response apart from a couple of enquiries which i was sure were not genuine but made up, as soon as my payment was due a couple more enquiries came in? call me suspicious but i would like to be proven wrong!
I think the partners of this site have taken our money and ran, again prove me wrong, not as much 'bigging up' on here as it was is it??!!
anyway onwards and upwards if you'll pardon the pun!
lee
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There's a good few who have picked up some cracking contracts from nwc
One picked up there biggest contract to date.
But not all post there every move on here!
Money well spent for some, not so for others
But that's the name of the game people ;)
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Hi
Like most of you I took a punt on this and have had little responce.
With the people behind this I was hoping for more,but as with any advertising you can't make people want a window cleaner.
To be fair most of my mini sites are still on page 1 so I can't blame nwc,and as said above some people have had some nice work out of this.
Craig.
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i thought i would at least have provoked a response or explanation but obviously not shame on you
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Perhaps they havent been on here since this thread was started, its a bank holiday weekend.
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Perhaps they havent been on here since this thread was started, its a bank holiday weekend.
Or perhaps they are sat on some sunny beach far, far away! ;D
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Perhaps they havent been on here since this thread was started, its a bank holiday weekend.
JV were last active on here at the start of May, but that not to say he may well be away.
Art
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"the end of the NWC",....
Did you get an e-mail/communication saying the directory is closing, or are you simply not renewing because it didn't work for you?
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I've got a £500 commercial job from it that needs doing in June for it's 2nd clean so I've no complaints.
I know that has been on annual leave and Huw has a young family and maybe on holiday too.
They certainly won't be avoiding the forum.
Dean
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that remains to be seen
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1338733295_circle-of-trust-12.jpg)
;)
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took the money and ran ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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We picked up a commercial job from being on nwc, it is being cleaned 3 times a year and us worth £900 a clean. First clean is this month, so we are not moaning at that!
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We've done alright out of it had 5 domestic enquires and 1 commercial.
Got the commercial and 1 of the domestics!!
more than paid for itself ;D
www.windowcleaningdevon.org.uk
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Has anyone had any contact with them?
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So, have they run off with the money, lost interest, moved on to the next big thing???????
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has anyone sent them a email to see whats going on, ;)
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there on holiday like someone said spending your hard earned money ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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According to the internet, The price group own it....
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this is very bizarre considering how quick they were to reply on here when the whole idea was starting up
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i said it from the start.
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I have just looked at my statement they had payments in March & April but nothing to date not even sent me an Inv
has nobody heard anything from them?
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I'm afraid this smells a bit.
I said at the time that they would make a lot of money for just signing people up ( http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=140481.msg1163178#msg1163178 ).
Plenty of people joined. Then, when things were going slowly, we had the classic, a "special offer" that must have brought in a lot of new window cleaners (and their money).
Now it's all gone quiet and the people who were keen to be on here promoting it have dropped off the map. One of them was last on six weeks ago.
( http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=10814 )
Odd, that's all I have to say, very odd.
Or perhaps not so odd after all.
Vin
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I'm afraid this smells a bit.
I said at the time that they would make a lot of money for just signing people up ( http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=140481.msg1163178#msg1163178 ).
Plenty of people joined. Then, when things were going slowly, we had the classic, a "special offer" that must have brought in a lot of new window cleaners (and their money).
Now it's all gone quiet and the people who were keen to be on here promoting it have dropped off the map. One of them was last on six weeks ago.
( http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=10814 )
Odd, that's all I have to say, very odd.
Or perhaps not so odd after all.
Vin
Vin, very good money earner for them
If anyone is worried about them, phone them, why keep posting on here.
I spent £25 on the first offer from them, the test period of around 5 months, not one phone call, in my eyes total waste of money.
Darren
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And i thought we was gonna take over every national contract going.
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I have spent a total of £45.00 and should be paying £15.00 per month. Its been nearly 5 months since we have had a request for payment. Emailed them and phoned them as i also have a spelling mistake on my web site, no reply?
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and to think i thought NWC would ruin my business in my area LOL. iam pleased i saved my money. fools and there money LOL ;D ;D ;D
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and to think i thought NWC would ruin my business in my area LOL. iam pleased i saved my money. fools and there money LOL ;D ;D ;D
ditto
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Maybe it helped Win "Them" some national contracts :o
I think being reputable companies that they are - you won't have anything to worry about.
I didn't join as we rank quite highly for - Commercial Window Cleaners - in many parts of the UK anyway.
But I do think it's a good idea and it will take quite some time to prove itself - be patient.
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But I do think it's a good idea and it will take quite some time to prove itself - be patient.
But if they aren't taking payments:
Its been nearly 5 months since we have had a request for payment.
Then you'll be waiting a long time indeed.
Vin
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I paid the trail fee of 20 or 30 quid or whatever it was and bought a resedential area which i think i got one enqiry from although my own site was ranked as highly as the nwc minisite so i saw it as just doubling up at the top of the first page of google which for a few quid for a few months was a pretty good deal.
I dont understand you lot who are saying where are they, they have run off with my money etc ..... they offered a service and provided it , for those of you who didnt know about the google local business center or were afraid to pay someone else for simple seo on your own site.
It is obviously not a profitable business for them hence their absence , though for a few quid they did what they said they would do so what is the problem?
Would you blame an seo company who manage to optimize your site so it appears at the top of google but no customers look at your site and then ring? I think not.
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I paid the trail fee of 20 or 30 quid or whatever it was and bought a resedential area which i think i got one enqiry from although my own site was ranked as highly as the nwc minisite so i saw it as just doubling up at the top of the first page of google which for a few quid for a few months was a pretty good deal.
I dont understand you lot who are saying where are they, they have run off with my money etc ..... they offered a service and provided it , for those of you who didnt know about the google local business center or were afraid to pay someone else for simple seo on your own site.
It is obviously not a profitable business for them hence their absence , though for a few quid they did what they said they would do so what is the problem?
Would you blame an seo company who manage to optimize your site so it appears at the top of google but no customers look at your site and then ring? I think not.
same here .. paid for 2 invoices .. not had 1 for ages.
worth a go ... if you dont try these things youll never know.
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yeah but the point is, they sold it not just as a first page google thing, but as a united window cleaners thing, where we could bid for national contracts etc. also they seem to have just disappeared. thats where the confusion is- they made so much noise to start with and now nothing
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yeah but the point is, they sold it not just as a first page google thing, but as a united window cleaners thing, where we could bid for national contracts etc. also they seem to have just disappeared. thats where the confusion is- they made so much noise to start with and now nothing
Windows cleaners united, not just seo, and they made money and run.
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yeah but the point is, they sold it not just as a first page google thing, but as a united window cleaners thing, where we could bid for national contracts etc. also they seem to have just disappeared. thats where the confusion is- they made so much noise to start with and now nothing
Windows cleaners united, not just seo, and they made money and run.
I was given an area......
I have approx 4 to 6 a week enquiries.... but from my own website!! just printed another one off just now. Looks like they filled in our online quote form just after midnight June 24th lol ( strange time to sort out your window cleaning. Im not complaining mind lol)
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I don't know all the ins-and-outs, but you guys who paid, did you receive the services you paid for?
If not, be precise in explaining what you haven't had?
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cant see what all the fuzz is myself
both people who set up NWC are
successful in the field
it didnt work for some
it worked for others
end of and what bit of money
others lost is all tax deductable anyway
but what really annoys me is ppl slagging off
both huw and Charlie ,
and the majority of ppl doing the slagging off
av only been in the wc industry a couple of years
too , iv even offered ppl on ere work
and av been messed around something silly
by dreamers ;) End of
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cant see what all the fuzz is myself
both people who set up NWC are
successful in the field
it didnt work for some
it worked for others
end of and what bit of money
others lost is all tax deductable anyway
but what really annoys me is ppl slagging off
both huw and Charlie ,
and the majority of ppl doing the slagging off
av only been in the wc industry a couple of years
too , iv even offered ppl on ere work
and av been messed around something silly
by dreamers ;) End of
I'm not sure it's a case of slagging off Gav but the founders of this were on here all the time when money was being asked for. As for the fee being tax deductible, that's just stupid- buy my slx for 5k & see how much you save on your tax bill!
So, I think it's a valid question for current & potential future members-
Is the drive still there?
Are they doing what they promised- promotion wise?
Has the excitement & energy dried up, has the whole thing just gone off the boil etc?
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cant see what all the fuzz is myself
both people who set up NWC are
successful in the field
it didnt work for some
it worked for others
end of and what bit of money
others lost is all tax deductable anyway
but what really annoys me is ppl slagging off
both huw and Charlie ,
and the majority of ppl doing the slagging off
av only been in the wc industry a couple of years
too , iv even offered ppl on ere work
and av been messed around something silly
by dreamers ;) End of
successful in there field, not internet marketing which is the main point here!
I dont think they are slagging off charlie or Huw, I think the problem is what have been offered or what was a good idea failed with no response, people have the right to air there view new new or old, I have been in window cleaning for a few years now but new or old make no difference at all!
if you have paid money for something and it has not been delvered as stated when you bought it they have every right to moan about it, I guess you would if you paid out cash and didnt get what you was promised (and there were a few wild promises made which I knew was not acheiveable long term).
I am not in Chalies nor Huw's pocket nor do I rely on them for work never have never will again no disrespect to either of them, not sure if you do though from your comment mate. although it looks that way from reading (no disrespcted meant by that in anyway), I think they are nice blokes having spoken to them both, met charlie a few times on courses or meeting we have both been at.
At the end of the day if NWC or what it is called failed is failing then people do have the right to be annoyed if they paid for it, I know I would. would'nt you ?
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Hi guys,
Long time no speak...if i'm honest i've been giving the forum a wide birth of late.
Thanks for all the replies in this thread, both negative and positive!
The NWC website was severely effected by Googles latest algorithm update on 26/04/12, just Google "Penguin Update" for more info.
Approx. 75% of our mini-sites were either dropped from the search results altogether, some now outside page 10, or dropped by a couple of pages. Some mini-site home pages have actually been de-indexed by Google.
Basically the firm who were supplying us with the SEO for the website used some pretty spammy links, which provided us with immediate Page 1 results for almost all the mini-sites in the short term, but after the Google algorithm change have possibly killed the site in the long term. Saying, that I have made ammendments to a few of the mini-sites as a trial and some of them are now back on page 1. We will carry on working on the existing site in the hope of regaining all our page 1 positions.
With busy work schedules for both Chalie and I getting round to fixing this has had to take a back seat. We hope to have a new website up and running, which will be a bit different from the last in a few months hopefully. We would at this time welcome anyones thoughts on what you would like to see in a window cleaning directory or network website?
In regards to people losing money by advertising with NWC, nobody has been invoiced for months but all the mini-sites are still up and running. People are still getting enquiries as I've just taken a look at the admin panel this morning.
I've attached a screenshot of some of the rankings in google as of this morning....which shows the mini-sites are all still up and running.
Any questions welcomed and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner.
Cheers,
Huw
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o584/NWC_UK/NWC_SEO_01_07_12.jpg)
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Hi guys,
Long time no speak...if i'm honest i've been giving the forum a wide birth of late.
Thanks for all the replies in this thread, both negative and positive!
The NWC website was severely effected by Googles latest algorithm update on 26/04/12, just Google "Penguin Update" for more info.
Approx. 75% of our mini-sites were either dropped from the search results altogether, some now outside page 10, or dropped by a couple of pages. Some mini-site home pages have actually been de-indexed by Google.
Basically the firm who were supplying us with the SEO for the website used some pretty spammy links, which provided us with immediate Page 1 results for almost all the mini-sites in the short term, but after the Google algorithm change have possibly killed the site in the long term. Saying, that I have made ammendments to a few of the mini-sites as a trial and some of them are now back on page 1. We will carry on working on the existing site in the hope of regaining all our page 1 positions.
With busy work schedules for both Chalie and I getting round to fixing this has had to take a back seat. We hope to have a new website up and running, which will be a bit different from the last in a few months hopefully. We would at this time welcome anyones thoughts on what you would like to see in a window cleaning directory or network website?
In regards to people losing money by advertising with NWC, nobody has been invoiced for months but all the mini-sites are still up and running. People are still getting enquiries as I've just taken a look at the admin panel this morning.
I've attached a screenshot of some of the rankings in google as of this morning....which shows the mini-sites are all still up and running.
Any questions welcomed and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner.
Cheers,
Huw
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o584/NWC_UK/NWC_SEO_01_07_12.jpg)
what a load of bollacks
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Huw, what program is that you're using to check rankings on the various search engines?
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Hi,
There's a few available. The one we use is called rank checker, which is part of the SEO Powersuite package, the free version will be more than adequate for most people.
Other good ones are majestic SEO and market samurai.
It's always nice to know if your SEO budget is working.
Cheers,
Huw
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Hi,
There's a few available. The one we use is called rank checker, which is part of the SEO Powersuite package, the free version will be more than adequate for most people.
Other good ones are majestic SEO and market samurai.
It's always nice to know if your SEO budget is working.
Cheers,
Huw
market samurai is ace ;)
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Hi guys,
Long time no speak...if i'm honest i've been giving the forum a wide birth of late.
Thanks for all the replies in this thread, both negative and positive!
The NWC website was severely effected by Googles latest algorithm update on 26/04/12, just Google "Penguin Update" for more info.
Approx. 75% of our mini-sites were either dropped from the search results altogether, some now outside page 10, or dropped by a couple of pages. Some mini-site home pages have actually been de-indexed by Google.
Basically the firm who were supplying us with the SEO for the website used some pretty spammy links, which provided us with immediate Page 1 results for almost all the mini-sites in the short term, but after the Google algorithm change have possibly killed the site in the long term. Saying, that I have made ammendments to a few of the mini-sites as a trial and some of them are now back on page 1. We will carry on working on the existing site in the hope of regaining all our page 1 positions.
With busy work schedules for both Chalie and I getting round to fixing this has had to take a back seat. We hope to have a new website up and running, which will be a bit different from the last in a few months hopefully. We would at this time welcome anyones thoughts on what you would like to see in a window cleaning directory or network website?
In regards to people losing money by advertising with NWC, nobody has been invoiced for months but all the mini-sites are still up and running. People are still getting enquiries as I've just taken a look at the admin panel this morning.
I've attached a screenshot of some of the rankings in google as of this morning....which shows the mini-sites are all still up and running.
Any questions welcomed and apologies for not getting back to you guys sooner.
Cheers,
Huw
(http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o584/NWC_UK/NWC_SEO_01_07_12.jpg)
what a load of bollacks
The guy comes on here with the explanation that you have been waiting for and you put out a response like that???
And looking through your posts it appears to me that you haven't even invested in this venture.
That's the problem with this forum. People come on hear with an idea that could potentially help everybody involved and people like you sit there waiting for everybody to fall on there faces.
Shame on you.
Do you like windows by the way mark?
Dean.
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Whatever happened to this,is it still going? ???
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Their are two totally different sites i think they may well re invent it at some point.
Paul
http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/ (http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.co.uk/)
http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.com/ (http://www.nationwidewindowcleaners.com/)