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Title: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Clean Safe on May 22, 2012, 10:55:12 am
Does anybody have an example template for a Pre use checklist on a water fed pole?

If have and wouldn't mind sharing please email it to me on:

Info@cleansafewindowcleaning.com

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 22, 2012, 11:20:00 am
Water in tank -
Power in battery -
At a customers property -
No thunder & lightning -
Pole in hand -

Am I missing something? A check-list for using a pole is a bit "If you ain't got the common sense to know it already, you shouldn't be in this job" isn't it????

Not trying to have a dig,.. just genuinely can't figure out what you're looking for & why!
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Ian101 on May 22, 2012, 06:56:46 pm
u forgot sandwiches and flask in van  ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Clean Safe on May 23, 2012, 04:19:22 am
Maybe you have mid understood my post but a Pre use checklist is the items you would check on your pole before using it. I.e check for cracks, fractures in pole, check clamps.

It may be a bit 'over the top' however when you have employees you have to make things simple and water tight!

There are plenty of Pre use checklists kicking about for ladders with some good terminology but I can't find one for water fed poles!
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: dazmond on May 23, 2012, 07:59:56 am
dont forget gloves and babywipes for if you drag your hose through dog/cat muck!!

 ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: MNWC on May 23, 2012, 08:00:19 am
 ::)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: MNWC on May 23, 2012, 08:02:21 am
If your employees need a check list for using a wfp then its time to change your employees !!!!

Theres alot to be said about a one man band.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: H S and Son on May 23, 2012, 08:14:22 am
Engage brain.


That usually suffices.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Nathanael Jones on May 23, 2012, 08:16:36 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

So many people forget this step in every day life,.. I'm tempted to make it the screensaver on my wifes phone now,....  ;D ;D ;D

Engage brain.


That usually suffices.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: H S and Son on May 23, 2012, 08:17:36 am
Im afraid I'd have to charge for the intellectual property rights if you did that Nath.  ;)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: AuRavelling79 on May 23, 2012, 08:36:38 pm
;D ;D ;D ;D

So many people forget this step in every day life,.. I'm tempted to make it the screensaver on my wifes phone now,....  ;D ;D ;D

Engage brain.


That usually suffices.

Anyone who puts "Engage brain" on his wife's phone - clearly hasn't!  ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Window Washers on May 23, 2012, 09:57:02 pm
;D ;D ;D ;D

So many people forget this step in every day life,.. I'm tempted to make it the screensaver on my wifes phone now,....  ;D ;D ;D

Engage brain.


That usually suffices.

Anyone who puts "Engage brain" on his wife's phone - clearly hasn't!  ;D
aint that the truth  ;D
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Clean Safe on May 25, 2012, 09:55:19 am
If your employees need a check list for using a wfp then its time to change your employees !!!!

Theres alot to be said about a one man band.

They don't NEED a checklist to check the Pole is safe to use but if the equipment was for some reason to malfunction and cause injury/damage we would need to show that it has been checked/inspected.

So nice to see you all having some positive input unlike some of the clowns who just want to mock what you are trying to achieve. It's no wonder others refrain from posting anything on here and just sit in the background
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Window Washers on May 25, 2012, 11:38:34 am
If your employees need a check list for using a wfp then its time to change your employees !!!!

Theres alot to be said about a one man band.

They don't NEED a checklist to check the Pole is safe to use but if the equipment was for some reason to malfunction and cause injury/damage we would need to show that it has been checked/inspected.

So nice to see you all having some positive input unlike some of the clowns who just want to mock what you are trying to achieve. It's no wonder others refrain from posting anything on here and just sit in the background
I visualy check for cracks in pole, (if there are cracks I cut off that section of pole and replace stop tape)

Check the angle adapters are free from cracks (replace if needbe)
Check the brush seating is not loose or cracked (tighten or replace if needed)
Check the brush stock is in order and the jets on the brush are not loose, (glue if needed)
Check pole hose is free from cracks (replace if needed)
Check the end stops are intact on each pole section. (remove old tap with new)
Check rectus fitting on pole hose is working freely (replace if needed)

Hope this helps  ;)
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: evo on May 25, 2012, 03:33:23 pm
Water in tank -
Power in battery -
At a customers property -
No thunder & lightning -
Pole in hand -

Am I missing something? A check-list for using a pole is a bit "If you ain't got the common sense to know it already, you shouldn't be in this job" isn't it????

Not trying to have a dig,.. just genuinely can't figure out what you're looking for & why!










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Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Griffus on May 25, 2012, 03:51:03 pm
If you have employees I'd assume they are trained in the use of all equipment that they are expected to use.

If so then the next step should be a method statement, risk assessment etc. As for a checklist this should ultimately be part of the method statement. It depends on how far you wish to take this, or more realistically, how far your clients do.

Hard truth is though, do you run through a documented checklist everytime you use your WFP? I'd say no, especially as you are asking for one to be provided. We all run through a process, but this doesn't have to be documented.

Toolbox talks are a good tool at your disposal, show that your H & S is ongoing and not something set up and left. Do these regularly and get them signed off, job done, minds refreshed.

Some things are just common sense and others passed on to us by training and education. You need all of these in place and then you'll be fine without a checklist just to use the thing.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Nick Wareham on May 25, 2012, 03:56:55 pm
My Pre-WFP Checklist goes like this:

Pole Connected - CHECK
Sunglasses on - CHECK
MP3 player loud enough - CHECK

start working
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Clean Safe on May 25, 2012, 04:56:30 pm
If you have employees I'd assume they are trained in the use of all equipment that they are expected to use.

If so then the next step should be a method statement, risk assessment etc. As for a checklist this should ultimately be part of the method statement. It depends on how far you wish to take this, or more realistically, how far your clients do.

Hard truth is though, do you run through a documented checklist everytime you use your WFP? I'd say no, especially as you are asking for one to be provided. We all run through a process, but this doesn't have to be documented.

Toolbox talks are a good tool at your disposal, show that your H & S is ongoing and not something set up and left. Do these regularly and get them signed off, job done, minds refreshed.

Some things are just common sense and others passed on to us by training and education. You need all of these in place and then you'll be fine without a checklist just to use the thing.

Thanks for your input Ian

I have all of the above in place and the guys have all had training on WFP but was just looking for a checklist as a reference tool to go into their h&s folder which stays in their vans. I find looking at other peoples checklists or documentation useful as you get a varied terminology.

I was hoping maybe someone had one they would be willing to share but seems as though no-one does this as a task anyway
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: geefree on May 25, 2012, 10:48:18 pm
Not many people have a checklist for a water fed pole , simply because any employee , worker etc.... would normally have enough common sense to immediately see and feel ,  if the pole is ready for work, how to take care of the tools , and how to work efficiently,

Its a water fed pole , not erected scaffold,

And anyone without simple, very simple... common sense should not get pass the interview stage,


sorry if its a negative reply , but i think you and your workers could use the time and money better spent.

Gary.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: H S and Son on May 25, 2012, 10:53:07 pm
What checks do people make to their mode of transport in the morning prior to leaving for work?

Check their water-tank is fixed securely in the holding bay in the rear of their van? Check the wheels nuts are tightened? Check thei seat-belt mechanism works? Check their brake lights and all indicators work? Check their engine for oil and water? Check their roof-rack is as secure as it was when it was first fitted?


None I bet, I don't.

Arent these equally as important as the pole checks? Playing devils advocate but pointless checking the pole is operative if your half tonne of water isn't secure and is liable to crush you in the event of a hasty stop at the first set of traffic lights you come across.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: rosskesava on May 26, 2012, 12:15:45 am
I don't think the original question is daft at all.

H & S is all about managing risks not about eliminating them altogether. The unforeseen will always happens but those risks that can be reduced or eliminated, what's so odd about thinking in terms of those?

I know from experience that sometimes employees can be pretty thick when it comes to equipment. Either they have the view 'this is what they gave me to work with so I'll use it untill it falls apart' or they just don't understand.

It's too late after a preventable accident for the employer to say they didn't realise the equipment was faulty and that there was no system in place to check, as far as is practically possible, the work worthiness of the equipment being used.
Title: Re: Water Fed Pole Pre Use Checklist
Post by: Griffus on May 26, 2012, 10:59:51 am
I don't think the original question is daft at all.

H & S is all about managing risks not about eliminating them altogether. The unforeseen will always happens but those risks that can be reduced or eliminated, what's so odd about thinking in terms of those?

I know from experience that sometimes employees can be pretty thick when it comes to equipment. Either they have the view 'this is what they gave me to work with so I'll use it untill it falls apart' or they just don't understand.

It's too late after a preventable accident for the employer to say they didn't realise the equipment was faulty and that there was no system in place to check, as far as is practically possible, the work worthiness of the equipment being used.

So have you a checklist as requested and if so can you let OP have a copy?