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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 06:03:42 pm

Title: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 06:03:42 pm
Ive cleaned this bad boy once before traditional, and it was a nightmare. Took 2 of us 8 hours.
Old wooden georgen windows, with the paint flakeing off ruining rubber after rubber after rubber! You know the ones. Well, the house keeper after 2 years has just phoned me, and I have booked it in for next week. The windows havent been cleaned since I last done them.
 
Ive told her that im only using WFP from now on and thats the method ill be using.

My question is... as the frames are in such bad condition, am i gonna cause more damage using the brush?

Also, whats advice have you got for me cleaning gerogian windows in genral? Do you clean the panes in rows?

When do you rinse etc?
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: britishwill on May 21, 2012, 06:06:14 pm
1. Check the paint for milking
2. It probably with take off the flaky paint.
3. The flaky paint will be on the brush and drive you mad.
4. Try and get her on a regular clean!
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 06:50:54 pm
Thanks for the reply Will.

Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: g.brookes on May 21, 2012, 07:04:06 pm
im no expert but my advice would be to expect every window to run (and rinse accordingly) and just count yourself lucky if they dont
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: deeege on May 21, 2012, 07:31:45 pm
Whereabouts in the country are you James?
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 07:33:47 pm
Whereabouts in the country are you James?

Somerset  ;)
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: deeege on May 21, 2012, 07:36:18 pm
I had a similar enquiry today for a house that we clean (£180 aswell) but as you are ~200 miles away I doubt it's the same house :)
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 07:42:23 pm
I had a similar enquiry today for a house that we clean (£180 aswell) but as you are ~200 miles away I doubt it's the same house :)


Na I doubt it bud  :)

Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Scrimble on May 21, 2012, 07:53:19 pm
£180 is ridiculous for 2 men on a house taking 8 hours
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 07:55:30 pm
£180 is ridiculous for 2 men on a house taking 8 hours

Yep, tell me about it
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Scrimble on May 21, 2012, 07:56:31 pm
you should be charging £500+
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Llaaww on May 21, 2012, 08:02:32 pm
If this is the first wfp clean it will show up any leaks.

The paint on the windows will have oxidised over the years, and this will be the main trouble.

I would wash the whole thing twice. First clean would be a thorough scrub down with tfr and tap water.

Stop for lunch, to let the windows drip.

Follow up with a second light brush and rinse with pure.

I would be most concerned about leaks.

leave your mate at home.
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: geoffreyspecht on May 21, 2012, 08:23:08 pm
you should be charging £500+
£500 is to cheap should be a £1000
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 21, 2012, 08:26:27 pm
you should be charging £500+

thats a bit ambitious imo £380 in my world.
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 21, 2012, 08:30:12 pm
you should be charging £500+
£500 is to cheap should be a £1000

 :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 21, 2012, 08:36:00 pm
If this is the first wfp clean it will show up any leaks.

The paint on the windows will have oxidised over the years, and this will be the main trouble.

I would wash the whole thing twice. First clean would be a thorough scrub down with tfr and tap water.

Stop for lunch, to let the windows drip.

Follow up with a second light brush and rinse with pure.

I would be most concerned about leaks.

leave your mate at home.


Thanks for the advice
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Dougaldum on May 21, 2012, 10:39:39 pm
you Will end up doing at trade because when you do it wfp it looks good but when dry it turns whit on window because of the paint and no matter how many times you do it it just the same because I did one for a frind and ended do ing it trade nightmare
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: H S and Son on May 21, 2012, 10:41:56 pm
If this is the first wfp clean it will show up any leaks.

The paint on the windows will have oxidised over the years, and this will be the main trouble.

I would wash the whole thing twice. First clean would be a thorough scrub down with tfr and tap water.

Stop for lunch, to let the windows drip.

Follow up with a second light brush and rinse with pure.

I would be most concerned about leaks.

leave your mate at home.

Pretty much what he said, just leave the TFR out. You'll make a rod for your own back in that case. There'll be enough old detergent on there without adding any more that needs removing.
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Window Washers on May 21, 2012, 11:05:15 pm
I would clean the lot with one brush, then swop to another for glass and rinse.

just because they are old does not mean the paint will oxidize, have cleaned some hanging jobs and they come up fine.

I defo would not use tfr on knackered frames one it is pointless and two it will add to any probelms you may have.

clean the lot then glass only.

prey the water sheets.

have fun :)
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Tomboler on May 21, 2012, 11:15:35 pm
ditch it and get some nice easy access new upvc jobs all in a line - why struggle on an under priced, ball ache of an irregular job....
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Tom White on May 21, 2012, 11:20:58 pm
ditch it and get some nice easy access new upvc jobs all in a line - why struggle on an under priced, ball ache of an irregular job....

No, I would have a go, but I would manage the customers expectations.  I would explain about the frames causing problems; that there will be spots and runs.  I would even offer to touch up the ground floor windows by hand - even if this meant using an A-Frame.

But I still would put in a good price for the job, and if it was refused; hey ho!
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Tomboler on May 21, 2012, 11:28:20 pm
But I still would put in a good price for the job, and if it was refused; hey ho!

It sounds as though thats the price for the job and they ring when they want it doing. 2 men @ £180 for 8 hours is hard going, if they'll accept that it's going to cost more then fair enough if not then I'd have to leave it, surely the time could be better spent?
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: ben M on May 21, 2012, 11:34:42 pm
run away or charge min £300  ;)
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: PurefectWindowCleaning on May 27, 2012, 07:27:47 pm
Ive got this to do on Friday, will see what happens. On the plus side, looking back through my diarys, I charged £250.00, not £180.00, so thats made it a little better  ;D
Title: Re: £180.00 house
Post by: Rogue Trader on May 27, 2012, 08:45:27 pm
on a job of that size it is CRAZY to ignore it and turn your back on it. Do what we do , if there is a chance that the job wont dry correctly then do the job taking extra time and water to rinse then go back after it has dried and get your ladder out and a wet scrim and wipe off any runs , this is quicker than doing it twice on the first clean and makes you look like a contiencious tradesman to the custy ;)