Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: BRSL on January 14, 2006, 08:22:14 pm
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Hi Guys
Ive just had a go at a flyer, wot do you think
James
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james keep it short and to the point and not so many pics, and remove them £10 adds !!!! put a 50% or half price on it
gary
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do somthing about the 10 pounds bout very good
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hi james,
whats the brochure about you offer?
Do you design and print them yourself.
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Hi Red
The flyer is aimed only at holiday parks, I designed it myself but now need it printing but cant find any one for less than £100, I only want a couple of hundred A5
James
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hi james,
I was on about the bit on your leaflet were you say to call for a full brochure, have you had a brochure designed?
my leaflets are A5 full colour, both sides, and thick card not paper, plus uv varnished.
I pay £150 for 5000 with design costs and £110 for repeat orders.
Would you like me to get you a price for a few hundred ?
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That would be great Red Thanks
Ive got a A4 3 fold brochure I usualy send out as it's not that much more than A5
And ive got proper Card cased brochure including all my other services detailed which is going to print soon
James
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Ive just tried to remove this post as I think ive upset my partner with showing this offer to everyone, wich is understandable I shouldent be giving leads to every one (as if you dont know already) but I was pleased with myself with the flyer
anouther example of think before you act >:(
SO CAN NO ONE QUOTE FOR ANY CARAVAN CLEANING THIS YEAR MUCH APPRECIATED ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
woops ill get the hang of buisness one day (the day im bankrupt no doubt)
Thanks again James
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hi again james,
thats not a prob il speak to him this week and see what i can do for you my guys very good and very cheap, only prob for you is gonna be the postage on top.
The reason i ask about the brochure is iv just finished designing mine, im printing some of now.
Wondered if you wana do a swap so we can bounce some ideas of each other?
That go's for anyone else with a brochure as well
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I have friends on the East Coast that live and work on a Caravan Park, at this time of the year the site shuts down for 2 months, (something to do with Council Tax) NO ONE is allowed on at ths time because of insurance cover!!!
Does this apply throughout the Country???
Opens again about the second week in March, sorry if this dampens your squib.
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Cheers Red !!!!!!!!!!
John I think it changes, I know devon doesnt open till June ::) ;)
No realy, theres no point paying Tax when the place aint open is there, not sure how they pull it off though
James
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hi james,
Just spoke to my printer for you, he says its not gonna make mutch difference to price if you only have a small order as its still the same set up costs for them, he says you might as well get 5000 as its only gona ad £10-£20 to the order.
So if you have your own artwork your looking about £120-£130 for 5000 plus postage about £15.
If your interested let me know and il send you a sample so you can see the quality, they really are good.
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Thanks Red
But thats the problem ive got, I dont need that many as theres not that many Parks down south Thanks for looking though, maybee I should buy some good paper and try printing myself.
PS you got mail
Thanks again
James
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Hi James,
As you only want a small amount printed, maybe it's time you invested in a colour laser printer, they're not that expensive now and would certainly be useful for other ideas you will probably have in the future.
by the way great looking leaflet hope you get plenty of work from it, all the best Ted
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Hi Ted good to hear from you hope all is well, and your back out there earning a crust, ;)
Im starting to think this might be the way forward, has no one else out there done it already or is cheeper to use a printers
James
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James,
There was no attatchment with that mail mate ???
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Daniel
Check it again 8)
James
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The flyer looks impressive, should get you some good leads
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James, cheaper to use a printer on large runs because of ink costs, all in one printer a must ( scanner photocopier printer ) connect to pc away you go
Conrad
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Conrad
Thats what i use a HP Scann, copy, fax thing, it's a ink jet and the quality is brilliant but slow and eats the ink like its mad, so wouldent use for large amounts, might keep my ears open for a pro printer and see what happens, if it works fine It might be an idea to offer my services out to other CC's but wouldent do the design work
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HOW BIG IS THE CARPET YOU'RE CLEANING FOR £10.00?
COME TO THAT WHAT SORT OF UPHOLSTERY DO YUO DO FOR A TENNER?
DO YOU HAVE A MINIMUM CHARGE
like the flyer though!
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James,
Im designing a new flyer at the minute and want to use somthing like those little eye things youv got on it.
where did you get them please?
and how can i get hold of them?
is there anyway i can use them in word do you know?
Daniel
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Regarding printers,
The colour lasers are okay on price, but will get you on 4 colour toners at approx
£50 + vat each, and with 4 to but it's a lot of money. When you first buy one as well, the toners are not full on a lot of them so you have to replace quicker.
Go for ink and refill. I have been doing it for a few years. Don't worry if your cartridges have chips on them. Buy a zapper from jr ink, or better still there are certain printers that use six cartridges that can be run direct from large ink bottles fed by tubes into the top of the cartridges, and each cartridge is doctored so it thinks it's always full up.
Professionals who print a lot of digital photos tend to use this system.
Dave
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With prices like that, your phone will ring non stop, but, you will need to do an awful lot of jobs to make a living
I was charging more than that 20 years ago and I was not expensive. With a rig like that, you have to project yor running costs, including dapreciation and servicing over 12 months, with a write off over around 5 years.
Work tha t out and find out what you need to take in BEFORE you earn a penny.
rob m
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Dave,
How do you know if you can tube feed cants see how it would work as cartridges move.
Not saying it cant be done as I have heard of it before.
Also do you know suppliers
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Long floppy tubes!
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Ian,
Continous ink systems
If you type the words continous ink systems into your search engine,you will get the result you want.
The one system is Lysus, i think which can convert Epson printers R800 and R1800.As stated earlier the ink is fed through soft tubing straight to each cartridge. There are a few companies that provide this service. I am not sure of the cost, but for long term high capacity printing it must be worth while.
I think Epson printers are the only one to allow a conversion to be made. I think it has something to do with the inside, otherwise as you pointed out, they would jam up inside.
Dave
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Colin £10 of carpet = at least 50 units, lounge and trafic lanes in bedrooms about 10sqm
£10 of upholstery = arms and base cushion spotting
Therapist 30 units a day at £20 a unit at least 6 dasy a week im happy with that, but my phone aint ringing under cut again :o :o
Daniel I use a seriff web page program and cut and paste alot with adobe elements 2
James
PS still not sure about the printer
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James:
As a caravan park owner myself: see www.secretgardencaravans.co.uk I offer the following advice:
Approach the caravan park manager first: if you offer to clean his stock caravans / rental fleet / office for free, he might well promote your services enthusiastically.
Don't forget, caravan parks are private property, and you may well need permission from the owner / manager before you go on to the park, and almost certainly before you distribute leaflets (we completely ban any leafleting or canvassing and only allow tradesmen who we have approved on to the park).
You may be asked to pay a commission to the Park (after all, Calor Gas, the Insurance companies and the caravan dealers all pay us a commission), but you may well be able to pay "in kind" (if you make me your approved cleaner I will do the carpets in your office / club / display caravans free) instead.
Caravan Parks are a well organised industry, we all chat regularly at trade association meetings, exhibitions, etc. Get it wrong on one park (like drive your truck-mount over the grass and leave wheel ruts) and you may well find yourself banned from every park in the area.
Don't say "they can't do that to me, it's a free country, I promise you we certainly can: We banned one business for driving on the grass (might sound petty, but it took 3 days work to repair the damage, he then took us to court for "loss of business", we counterclaimed for property damage, we won.)
Get it right, however, and you will find that your name will get passed from Park to Park and much work may come. There are many businesses who specialise in services to caravan parks, many of these become associate members of the trade association BHHPA (look at www.bhhpa.org.uk and www.ukparks.com )
With only 43 caravans we are quite a small park, however, we always pressure wash all caravans twice a year (unless the caravan owner does it themself with a sponge and bucket) and that brings us £4000 a year (with a petrol pressure washer fitted to a trailer we pull behind a golf buggy (turf tyres don't damage the grass!)
I know many site owners with upwards of 300 caravans on their parks. Now if they recommend you to their customers, that's quite a few weeks work!
Your truckmount wouldn't go well on my park, like many others we have height and width restrictions (to prevent theft of touring caravans, to keep "travellers" out and to keep the car park for cars) and you would need very long hoses (up to 200 ft) to reach caravans from the car park.
Don't forget, many caravan parks have a limited electricity supply, so a large machine may well blow fuses. You might well only have 6 amps to play with.
If I were aiming to specialise in caravan cleaning (and indeed I am thinking about it) my dream kit would be a Prochem "steempro" in the back of a small van like a Berlingo. Add to this a 3kw petrol generator for power when needed. If I can park right by the caravan, I could leave the "steempro" in the van, otherwise I could trundle it to the caravan. Add extension leads and a sack truck for the generator, and we are there.
Funny enough, I've got a second hand"steempro" and a new generator in the caravan park stores; and I've just given my site warden a new Berlingo to replace his old (but still immaculate) Escort Van. So maybe I now have to go and get some contracts and employ someone to do the hard work!
PS: never say "caravan site", always "caravan park"..... it's like calling a CC a "splash-n-dash"!
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James:
As a caravan park owner myself: see www.secretgardencaravans.co.uk I offer the following advice:
Approach the caravan park manager first: if you offer to clean his stock caravans / rental fleet / office for free, he might well promote your services enthusiastically.
Don't forget, caravan parks are private property, and you may well need permission from the owner / manager before you go on to the park, and almost certainly before you distribute leaflets (we completely ban any leafleting or canvassing and only allow tradesmen who we have approved on to the park).
You may be asked to pay a commission to the Park (after all, Calor Gas, the Insurance companies and the caravan dealers all pay us a commission), but you may well be able to pay "in kind" (if you make me your approved cleaner I will do the carpets in your office / club / display caravans free) instead.
Caravan Parks are a well organised industry, we all chat regularly at trade association meetings, exhibitions, etc. Get it wrong on one park (like drive your truck-mount over the grass and leave wheel ruts) and you may well find yourself banned from every park in the area.
Don't say "they can't do that to me, it's a free country, I promise you we certainly can: We banned one business for driving on the grass (might sound petty, but it took 3 days work to repair the damage, he then took us to court for "loss of business", we counterclaimed for property damage, we won.)
Get it right, however, and you will find that your name will get passed from Park to Park and much work may come. There are many businesses who specialise in services to caravan parks, many of these become associate members of the trade association BHHPA (look at www.bhhpa.org.uk and www.ukparks.com )
With only 43 caravans we are quite a small park, however, we always pressure wash all caravans twice a year (unless the caravan owner does it themself with a sponge and bucket) and that brings us £4000 a year (with a petrol pressure washer fitted to a trailer we pull behind a golf buggy (turf tyres don't damage the grass!)
I know many site owners with upwards of 300 caravans on their parks. Now if they recommend you to their customers, that's quite a few weeks work!
Your truckmount wouldn't go well on my park, like many others we have height and width restrictions (to prevent theft of touring caravans, to keep "travellers" out and to keep the car park for cars) and you would need very long hoses (up to 200 ft) to reach caravans from the car park.
Don't forget, many caravan parks have a limited electricity supply, so a large machine may well blow fuses. You might well only have 6 amps to play with.
If I were aiming to specialise in caravan cleaning (and indeed I am thinking about it) my dream kit would be a Prochem "steempro" in the back of a small van like a Berlingo. Add to this a 3kw petrol generator for power when needed. If I can park right by the caravan, I could leave the "steempro" in the van, otherwise I could trundle it to the caravan. Add extension leads and a sack truck for the generator, and we are there.
Funny enough, I've got a second hand"steempro" and a new generator in the caravan park stores; and I've just given my site warden a new Berlingo to replace his old (but still immaculate) Escort Van. So maybe I now have to go and get some contracts and employ someone to do the hard work!
PS: never say "caravan site", always "caravan park"..... it's like calling a CC a "splash-n-dash"!
Some good info there Andrew - I got a call to clean a caravan last week , I was a bit worried about the power tripping as the Ninja has a bit of a thirst for the juice .
Two days after they phoned to cancel as the site was going to replace the caravan - so they no longer need the carpets cleaned ....... ;D
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Flyer seems good. Chop out the prices!!!!! Use some photo's that REALLY show what you're capable of cleaning. Get a pack of dogs out in a muddy field, throw water at them then call them into the caravan for din dins..... Then put a clean line in the carpet and get a photo of it! ;D
Alan
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Thanks for the advice guys, Andrew you run a pretty tight PARK id be scared to go on holiday there let alone do some cleaning ;D ;D ;D Joking aside some very good advice there thanks It all helps,
PS ive got 400ft of hose on my van so no worries, and ill clean your office for FREE ;) ;)
Well I landed two parks this year from that flyer this year but put it out well too late, People are checking in now from March so next year im starting my advertising in Jan, something to do i the slow month. not bad as I only sent out 30 £1200 in two days but im still cleaning mud off my gear :P :P
James
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Jay
I thought you'd departed to the other side. I am glad your busy. I have sent you an e-mail on yahoo.
Dave
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Nope the only moving ive done is to Bideford and that taken up a lot of my time, not having a phone line or broadband hasnt helped, but up and running on good old dial up, :P :P :P
Ive spent a bit of time on the other side but it's not as exciting as here yet, but my head lies on both pillows, I wouldent leave you guys, your not that lucky ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
PS ive not got your Email, you going Carpex
James
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PS ive got 400ft of hose on my van so no worries, and ill clean your office for FREE ;) ;)
Glad it's going well for you, James. However, you haven't seen the state of my office, I think it's more of a job for a Mini-Skip !!
Maybe the answer for avoiding muddy hoses is a "Puzzi" on a trolley..... pull it right up to the caravan door...... only the wheels to wipe afterwards.
(don't laugh, for several years we used a domestic Vax on our caravans!)
Andrew.