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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: brynley on May 20, 2012, 07:40:04 pm

Title: national companies
Post by: brynley on May 20, 2012, 07:40:04 pm
i think it would be useful if we get a list together of all the shops, stores etc that are cleaned by a national company, and who the national company are for each one.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: George P on May 20, 2012, 08:18:51 pm
why, what would you do with it,
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: colley614 on May 20, 2012, 08:55:37 pm
Go national  ;D
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: brynley on May 21, 2012, 06:36:36 am
to have a list would either save you from wasting your time trying to canvas these stores or to be able to contact the national companies to offer your services etc
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: William McCafferty on May 21, 2012, 07:22:58 am
Why not do the opposite, find out who is doing what and then refuse to do this work, remember the big boys quote low to win the contract and then want to pay us less than the job is worth so they can make a higher profit, well they won the contract so they should clean it.

This then leaves us to concentrate on better paying work.

You would also find that if they cannot find sub contractors, they will either increase their prices or stop tendering for the work at such silly low prices
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 21, 2012, 07:24:13 am
Brynley

would you find it acceptable for the National companys to have a list of all the customers that you have??
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: brynley on May 21, 2012, 04:18:48 pm
my idea was to either avoid wasting time trying to canvass these shops/stores etc or be able to offer services to the nationals if any of these stores are not being cleaned  in your area.

i was hoping to make it easier for people if all information was to hand.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Erithwc on May 21, 2012, 05:00:57 pm
i think it would be useful if we get a list together of all the shops, stores etc that are cleaned by a national company, and who the national company are for each one.

I would think the list would be out dated within weeks due to companies defaulting on contracts and contracts being up for tender  :) :)
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Chris Cottrell on May 21, 2012, 05:21:34 pm
I'd also like to know who you think is going to pay for the upkeep of this list
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: jarvy on May 21, 2012, 07:06:06 pm
Why not do the opposite, find out who is doing what and then refuse to do this work, remember the big boys quote low to win the contract and then want to pay us less than the job is worth so they can make a higher profit, well they won the contract so they should clean it.

This then leaves us to concentrate on better paying work.

You would also find that if they cannot find sub contractors, they will either increase their prices or stop tendering for the work at such silly low prices
And that pretty much sums it up!  ;)
Wise words there!
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: brynley on May 21, 2012, 07:08:52 pm
it was just an idea, obviously not to peoples liking
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Llaaww on May 21, 2012, 08:17:54 pm
it was just an idea, obviously not to peoples liking

It was a good idea.

National window cleaning companies stink.

lets put it to the test, and see if there is a window cleaner with a national contract who is willing to answer a few questions on here.......................................................... didn't think so.

They do not care a toss about keeping the place clean, they are crooks and wide boys who are in it for a quick buck. A succession of skanky creatures have insinuated their way into the major national retailers and repeatedly ripped them off with promises of services that are simply not provided.

Don't know how you are going to do it, but I will give you a tenner for the list.

Here is one to get you going.... Interserve are supposed to have the contract for boots.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: keyser soze on May 21, 2012, 08:35:51 pm
interserve does boots???. i used to do boots and i look at their windows now and think they are ok tbh . i know pizza hut local managers aren't happy my local manager has to clean them again once windys have left cause he 's not happy. i dont know who does them now
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 21, 2012, 08:40:49 pm
it was just an idea, obviously not to peoples liking

It was a good idea.

National window cleaning companies stink.

lets put it to the test, and see if there is a window cleaner with a national contract who is willing to answer a few questions on here.......................................................... didn't think so.

They do not care a toss about keeping the place clean, they are crooks and wide boys who are in it for a quick buck. A succession of skanky creatures have insinuated their way into the major national retailers and repeatedly ripped them off with promises of services that are simply not provided.

Don't know how you are going to do it, but I will give you a tenner for the list.

Here is one to get you going.... Interserve are supposed to have the contract for boots.

for pete's sake lad you
need get over losing that boots ffs
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Frankybadboy on May 21, 2012, 09:01:32 pm
right iam here what you want to know :P
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 21, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
right iam here what you want to know :P

we are not interested in the blue oyster bar chain Franky, your welcome to them.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: david moonface on May 26, 2012, 07:56:31 pm
Why not do the opposite, find out who is doing what and then refuse to do this work, remember the big boys quote low to win the contract and then want to pay us less than the job is worth so they can make a higher profit, well they won the contract so they should clean it.

This then leaves us to concentrate on better paying work.

You would also find that if they cannot find sub contractors, they will either increase their prices or stop tendering for the work at such silly low prices

bang on the money
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Smudgeoff Cleaning Services on May 26, 2012, 08:40:56 pm
it was just an idea, obviously not to peoples liking

It was a good idea.

National window cleaning companies stink.

lets put it to the test, and see if there is a window cleaner with a national contract who is willing to answer a few questions on here.......................................................... didn't think so.



They do not care a toss about keeping the place clean, they are crooks and wide boys who are in it for a quick buck. A succession of skanky creatures have insinuated their way into the major national retailers and repeatedly ripped them off with promises of services that are simply not provided.

Don't know how you are going to do it, but I will give you a tenner for the list.

Here is one to get you going.... Interserve are supposed to have the contract for boots.

for pete's sake lad you
need get over losing that boots ffs

I'm with U chap :-D
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: TomCrowther on May 26, 2012, 09:40:33 pm
The "national" companies seem to offer a pathetic level of service in terms of quality of clean. The local managers must be so cheesed off with the state of some of their shops/buildings. I sometimes look at a Boots or what have you when out shopping and some of them look like they haven't been done in yonks. You wouldn't want your name on the job. It's just a money saving exercise from HQ and I don't see why wc's chase after this type of job. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: KS Cleaning on May 26, 2012, 10:53:58 pm
The "national" companies seem to offer a pathetic level of service in terms of quality of clean. The local managers must be so cheesed off with the state of some of their shops/buildings. I sometimes look at a Boots or what have you when out shopping and some of them look like they haven't been done in yonks. You wouldn't want your name on the job. It's just a money saving exercise from HQ and I don't see why wc's chase after this type of job. Just my opinion.
Thing is,it's only windies who go shopping and decide to have a look at how dirty the windows are,the general public go shopping for a bargain and don't give two monkeys about how clean the windows are,never heard a customer yet say'oh I think I will get that perfume from Semichem because their windows are cleaner than Boots'
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Roy Cauldery on May 27, 2012, 04:31:28 am
Why bother with the high street?
Access issues ,pedestrians,jobs on the cheap etc.. etc...
Don't bother with them myself-leave it to the nationals ;D
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 27, 2012, 09:39:44 am
Its not the quality of the window cleaning that's the problem, its the quality of the spec.

We clean for one high st chain who have the external windows cleaned fortnightly but the internal windows cleaned every 6 months.

The windows look disgusting, to the untrained eye they look as though the haven't been cleaned at all.

These high street chains need to learn that the cheapest option isn't always the best.

I'm also involved in another window cleaning project away from the retail side where we have come 2nd on the price on the overall tender but come 1st overall when everything was taken into consideration. Effectively the cheapest option hasn't come out on top this time as the client has wisened up that if they want a quality service then they will have to pay that little bit more than the cheapest price.

Their choice has landed us with a nice secure 3 year contract on a very nice site.

I can see a lot of window cleaning work going back to this once the recession lifts.

Dean.
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Roy Cauldery on May 27, 2012, 12:44:20 pm
so you do like window cleaning!
Do you get distressed with it all tho'? ;)
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 27, 2012, 12:50:46 pm
It has actually driven me to drink in the past Roy.  :o
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Roy Cauldery on May 27, 2012, 12:52:44 pm
yes,its understandable-feel like that when my lovely staff c*ck up
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 27, 2012, 12:55:48 pm
Yes,

Its called self medication.  ;D
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Roy Cauldery on May 27, 2012, 12:57:21 pm
Yes,

Its called self medication.  ;D
;D ;D
Enjoy the weekend Dean

Roy
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Dean Taberner on May 27, 2012, 01:01:35 pm
You too mate
Title: Re: national companies
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on May 27, 2012, 05:57:11 pm
agree with dean on this one we clean
a certain high st chain weekly
they av now requested we go 4wkly
we wont be cleaning these after may ;)