Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Burbidge on May 19, 2012, 01:28:53 am
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Will twitter be the new forum. Twitter is a little more controlled than a forum.
I find discussing, messaging and emailing in Twitter a much better media regards discussing window cleaning topics than a forum that is just full of noise.
There is no 'bad attitude', 'chips on shoulders' in Twitter just freindly chat. Forums are just as good as Twitter when it comes to newbies wanting help, mind.
I hear about a lot of people being 'hounded off' forums, I read the good posters call them 'Witch hunters'....... I don't hear that in Twitter. For me Twitter is the new forum :)
Its a shame really as I have made a whole bunch of friends in forums.
Forums will change in the future...... I have a plan :)
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bad attitude chips on shoulder on here noooo you are mistaken surely. interesting about twitter
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Will twitter be the new forum. Twitter is a little more controlled than a forum.
I find discussing, messaging and emailing in Twitter a much better media regards discussing window cleaning topics than a forum that is just full of noise.
There is no 'bad attitude', 'chips on shoulders' in Twitter just freindly chat. Forums are just as good as Twitter when it comes to newbies wanting help, mind.
I hear about a lot of people being 'hounded off' forums, I read the good posters call them 'Witch hunters'....... I don't hear that in Twitter. For me Twitter is the new forum :)
Its a shame really as I have made a whole bunch of friends in forums.
Bye :)
Forums will change in the future...... I have a plan :)
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
They will need to be shorter ads then.
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
They will need to be shorter ads then.
So if you have a longish topic you need to create several 'ads' ??
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nowhere better than ciu for window cleaners!! :P :P
3 years ago id never even been on a computer.then my dad gave me an old laptop.since then my business has gone from strength to strength with help and support and info off here.
i wouldnt of found out about round software,wfp and a whole host of other things.i certainly was living in the dark ages in relation to window cleaning.
twitter?i did set up an account but didnt like it really.
what happens when you want to rant??!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You no I'm a fan of twitter lee but I think forums can hold there
Own for some time yet. I think twitter is good for net working,
And yes your right about the chips on shoulders and witch hunts on here!
But if you miss a post ( or tweet on twitter ) they will disappear down the
Pages after about a hour ( or 5 mins if you are following many hundreds)
So you don't get the same input as a forum.
The only thing ciu is missing for me is dm, but I'm told the reason why it has
Gone is the same reason loads leave forums..
Ban the small minded bully's and ciu will be a better place ;)
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I have never used twitter. Because of that I prefer the forum! Also if we swapped we may alienate a lot of people with good ideas or experience.
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what do you call a group of twitterers .... yup thats right t wats
not being all chip on shoulder ... think Stephen Fry once said it when he fell out of love of twitter
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twitter is a stream of text messages from all sorts of sources ... teens swearing cos it's clever ... twenties females saying omg new shoes coffee at starbucks ... men of all ages perving (showing off) over afforementioned females ... neurotic housewives bored mums and neurotic office chaps no girlfriend taking some downtime from porno... PR dweebs for celebs pretending to be the celebs ... lazy journalists doing online research ... and desperate businesses trying to sell crappola. brilliant in a nutshell.
the thing is that the forum is free and open and you choose to comment or not. some will agree with what is said and some will not. some people will take everything as read some will critically analyse. it's all good open discourse.
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twitter is a stream of text messages from all sorts of sources ... teens swearing cos it's clever ... twenties females saying omg new shoes coffee at starbucks ... men of all ages perving (showing off) over afforementioned females ... neurotic housewives bored mums and neurotic office chaps no girlfriend taking some downtime from porno... PR dweebs for celebs pretending to be the celebs ... lazy journalists doing online research ... and desperate businesses trying to sell crappola. brilliant in a nutshell.
the thing is that the forum is free and open and you choose to comment or not. some will agree with what is said and some will not. some people will take everything as read some will critically analyse. it's all good open discourse.
I think that's the definitive answer!
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I use twitter as it updates my facebook and website news feed at the same time ;D ;D
Paul
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
Yes - nut you can send direct messages and email people with your 'own' email. You know who your talking to and have more control if you want to be genuine friend with that person. You can block out an idiot ( for example)
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
They will need to be shorter ads then.
I tweet loads of stuff on twitter re mag plus chat about small stuff like the guy looking for a decent tank system and pump and where he will be looking for that. Topics are not a slog to discuss :)
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You no I'm a fan of twitter lee but I think forums can hold there
Own for some time yet. I think twitter is good for net working,
And yes your right about the chips on shoulders and witch hunts on here!
But if you miss a post ( or tweet on twitter ) they will disappear down the
Pages after about a hour ( or 5 mins if you are following many hundreds)
So you don't get the same input as a forum.
The only thing ciu is missing for me is dm, but I'm told the reason why it has
Gone is the same reason loads leave forums..
Ban the small minded bully's and ciu will be a better place ;)
That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
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That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
How will you fit a post like yours (which contains several valid subpoints, examples and comments) into 168 characters?
Before you go on the attack, as is your wont, it's a genuine question.
Vin
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Isn't twitter limited to a certain amount of characters in any one message?
Yes - nut you can send direct messages and email people with your 'own' email. You know who your talking to and have more control if you want to be genuine friend with that person. You can block out an idiot ( for example)
Im assuming you're referring to me as said 'idiot' ? Cheers for that
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But can you link/spam your magazine as effectively on twitter as you can on a forum?
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Lee, dont bite the hand that feeds you....you are being very disrespectful to a forum that has been around for a long time and you advertise constantly on. It may not be perfect but its the best there is at the moment. Your idea sounds very clicky where you can exclude people for any reason ie they dont agree with you.....
If you want a window cleaners facebook just use facebook.....
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Lol Burbidge lol plus your an ass hole lol
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That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
How will you fit a post like yours (which contains several valid subpoints, examples and comments) into 168 characters?
Before you go on the attack, as is your wont, it's a genuine question.
Vin
Vin I am so sorry to tell you that you bore the poop out of me.
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I have never used twitter. Because of that I prefer the forum! Also if we swapped we may alienate a lot of people with good ideas or experience.
Not true.
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what do you call a group of twitterers .... yup thats right t wats
not being all chip on shoulder ... think Stephen Fry once said it when he fell out of love of twitter
So should yo u too then, BTY was funny.
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Yup.... your a moron :) I am going where window cleaners truly are window cleaners. This site is a dead one to me, I get more construction from my blog. Good bye guys - the bad guys continually f*** it up for the rest :)
Over and out!
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Yup.... your a moron :) I am going where window cleaners truly are window cleaners. This site is a dead one to me, I get more construction from my blog. Good bye guys - the bad guys continually f*** it up for the rest :)
Over and out!
Lee all you need is a thick skin on here mate there are loads of morons on here me included, but there are also some very knowledgeable people on here. to give out you need to be able to take it back and on here it tends to be 10 fold ;D
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Lets see if he sticks to his word.... I doubt it cos he tends to answer the points he can then totally avoid the ones he cant answer cos he knows he is wrong....
If this forum meant nothing to him why spend money advertising and so much time plugging his magazine??
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That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
How will you fit a post like yours (which contains several valid subpoints, examples and comments) into 168 characters?
Before you go on the attack, as is your wont, it's a genuine question.
Vin
Vin I am so sorry to tell you that you bore the poop out of me.
Lee,
I really do think you have a problem. You tell us that twitter is better than a forum. I ask a genuine, simple, pretty pertinent question (how does one give detailed answers in 168 characters) and you tell me that I'm boring you. You do need to think before you insult the intelligence of your readership.
Vin
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Yup.... your a moron :) I am going where window cleaners truly are window cleaners. This site is a dead one to me, I get more construction from my blog. Good bye guys - the bad guys continually f*** it up for the rest :)
Over and out!
Don't let the door smack you on the backside on the way out.
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Yup.... your a moron :) I am going where window cleaners truly are window cleaners. This site is a dead one to me, I get more construction from my blog. Good bye guys - the bad guys continually f*** it up for the rest :)
Over and out!
Don't let the door smack you on the backside on the way out.
Hey that's Tosh's line. ;D
BTW I do think Lee was out of line with that comment, it seemed like a reasonable question to me,
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oih burbridge!i thought you were off to the states to clean windows ;D
i was bloody hoping it was going to be a one way ticket! ;D
before you say it! yes i am a moron! :D
Yup.... your a moron :) I am going where window cleaners truly are window cleaners. This site is a dead one to me, I get more construction from my blog. Good bye guys - the bad guys continually f*** it up for the rest :)
Over and out!
Don't let the door smack you on the backside on the way out.
Hey that's Tosh's line. ;D
BTW I do think Lee was out of line with that comment, it seemed like a reasonable question to me,
maybe he was having a bad day.
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When you are running a business with such a high profile on here you cant afford to have a bad day....
Do you think alex would undo all his good work on here cos he was having a bad day?
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I use twitter as it updates my facebook and website news feed at the same time ;D ;D
Paul
Do your customers visit your work website to read that Erith Window Cleaning has 144 friends, 'likes' FarmVille and had a peanut butty sarnie for breakfast?
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
;D, now be nice lol
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
Don't let the door smack you on the backside on the way in.
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
;D, now be nice lol
lol - you think your gonna get rid of me that easy. No wayyyyy man :)
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
Don't let the door smack you on the backside on the way in.
lol
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That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
There are more than just twitter where this is happening, Linkedin is one or networking clubs are another.
It would be nice to have a site where all this happened, but would it help the small guy? at first yes, but as soon as it becomes sucessfull especially about tendering opportunities or links into companies with you company information and what you can offer.
This is when the big boys will weigh in with vasts amounts of money and marketing professionals plugging their companys, that is when the small fish will starve again.
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You can set up as many networking events as you like, the few I have attended were full of desperate people desperate for business! The business people with contracts to hand out probably go elsewhere (freemasons)?
Never seems like a winning formula to me. I think if you've got contracts to hand out you probably have no need to attend anything you can just get on with your work, swear at your friends and colleagues ... sodumall because you da man with the pursestrings.
The system has not been thought through really.
You should pay the people making money to attend and then they can get the desperados to perform embarrassing tasks for them and then the big cheeses can pick the ones which amuse them the most. That would be brilliant but I think Simon Cowell beat me to it!
I'm not a cynic by the way I'm an optimist .... my glass is half clean ;D ;D ;D
Brilliant!
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You can set up as many networking events as you like, the few I have attended were full of desperate people desperate for business! The business people with contracts to hand out probably go elsewhere (freemasons)?
Never seems like a winning formula to me. I think if you've got contracts to hand out you probably have no need to attend anything you can just get on with your work, swear at your friends and colleagues ... sodumall because you da man with the pursestrings.
The system has not been thought through really.
You should pay the people making money to attend and then they can get the desperados to perform embarrassing tasks for them and then the big cheeses can pick the ones which amuse them the most. That would be brilliant but I think Simon Cowell beat me to it!
I'm not a cynic by the way I'm an optimist .... my glass is half clean ;D ;D ;D
Brilliant!
;D
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
you left?? i cant say i noticed :)
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Will twitter be the new forum. Twitter is a little more controlled than a forum.
mike@windowcleaning says...no way. And i've just done a tweet all about why not...........
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Will twitter be the new forum. Twitter is a little more controlled than a forum.
And besides, since when has controlled been better? Uncontrolled maybe mayhem, but you can sift through the bumf. Controlled generally is open to abuse by whoever is controlling it.
In the words of one of our controllers..........are we clear?
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But can you link/spam your magazine as effectively on twitter as you can on a forum?
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Er yup, perfectly.... Im getting a great following and people re-tweet my stuff to their following :)
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That is true.... may be I shouldn't say this but the next big thing for window cleaners is coming. Ive seen it. I don't how to describe it...... Facebook for windys???, I don't know but done in a specific window cleaning way, where you can hook up to cross over to another industry for passing work on that is not in your field.
That means office cleaners who do not window clean will pass work across and sub to you. Big Nationals and big cotracts will tender on this site wanting your services!
Imagine your business profile page with your pic, imagine a friends list you really want ( you can pick who you interact with), imagine buttons for marketing advise, employment advise and health & safety advise. Imagine a button to a public area where you know every bodies details and can see their profile pics instead of a silly random pic of a cat or dog ( for those missing a bit of forum banter )
Imagine a button to sell a round or equipment, imagine a button to click from your profile page if you want to add more work to your business, imagine a more fun networking experience that you are with people that are interested in a window cleaning business whether its to grow or stay where they are, whether they want to be informed of the latest tax law or advise on growing their business to dizzy heights.
Imaging the stores button that has negotiated the cheapest price around on the strength of this websites members. Imagine linking in all the share buttons, your website.......
That is a place I want to be :)
There are more than just twitter where this is happening, Linkedin is one or networking clubs are another.
It would be nice to have a site where all this happened, but would it help the small guy? at first yes, but as soon as it becomes sucessfull especially about tendering opportunities or links into companies with you company information and what you can offer.
This is when the big boys will weigh in with vasts amounts of money and marketing professionals plugging their companys, that is when the small fish will starve again.
Not true - this new site votes on if it wants advertisers, who they will be and if and which charity we will donate the money too :)
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I've learned loads off of the folk on this forum, Lee; I'm sorry you don't feel it works for your interests.
I hope you will see sense and stay - but if you do there's no need to be offensive - either put up a cogent rebuttal to points made or stay quiet and not get wound up.
Im back ! ;D
lol thats good then 8)
you left?? i cant say i noticed :)
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Well I have made a short film on this new potential site - hope you like it, its on you tube or the WCM blog :)
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New video is on the window cleaning magazine blog - ;D