Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Burbidge on May 18, 2012, 12:18:15 am
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http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/window-cleaners-reclaim-your-evenings-no-more-round-collecting/
I just started this a week ago.
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
Since when i pay for every transaction on my business account . MIKE
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M & M Bank transfers are free...
Also id prefer paypal to payatrader, no setup fees and everyone knows it and trusts it (to a certain extent) i have loads pay with paypal, its simple to use and free to withdraw any amount to your bank account.
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
Since when i pay for every transaction on my business account . MIKE
You need to speak to your bank then. Most banks offer an "electronic" tariff. All transactions made via internet banking are free. some banks will charge a £5 monthly fee but most don't.
I cant see many benefits from using paytrader as the cost outweighs them.
If i am right it works out at about 5.5% per transaction.
in the blurb it says they charged "just 30p" for a £5.50 job so by putting the cost up by 50p you have already covered your cost.
How many of us have an average job cost of only £5.50?
Anything over a tenner and you lose.
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http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/window-cleaners-reclaim-your-evenings-no-more-round-collecting/
I just started this a week ago.
Lee any chance I can speak with you at some one in regards to the mag/blog
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im finding online payments by bank transfer are more common these days,still have lots of SAE and of course collecting.
if customers always dont seem to have any cash,wont pay online or send a cheque quite frankly i cant be bothered cleaning their windows.
im not interested in paypal,payatrader or any of the other services that charge you to get paid.i dont get charged for cheques or bank transfers.most of my older customers pay cash or cheque.collecting on very compact work is easy and good for cashflow.
im finding more and more customers delaying payment or forgetting with online transfers.im having to phone them to remind em!! >:(
bloody annoying but we are always the last to get paid in the great scheme of things!!
i loved it in the old days when it was mainly cash only,no messing about.lots of these young couples with kids are the worst for delaying payment esp with the increase in living costs over the last few years.some ive just dumped.they simply cant afford to have their windows cleaned.
i hate it when they say"ill pay online straight away" and never do.it gives them an excuse to delay payment again!! >:( >:(
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Hi lee
I never ever collect from day 1.
They pay cash chq on day or post or online.there is no need for anybody to collect really or use a 3rd party to do it for you.
Cheers cliff
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I have never collected, not once. I ways say if you are not paying by cash, you can pay online or send a cheque. I do not leave an sae.
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i collect all my work is local to me,i have no delays in getting paid,i used to sae
and it was a pain in the arse.
when i collect i see it as an opportunity i cant count the amount of jobs i
have picked up whilst collecting
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good point gary you're there in the street sign written van, bike, tee-shirt when most folk are about ... brilliant .... it's called zagging whilst everyone else is zigging!
what did the blooming internet ever do for us hey? nowt!
anybody ever won any business from friendface or microblogging or round managment software apart from the geeks that set them up?
we live in the real world we like people we like to meet people we are people (except for Tosh who is an automoton). Rise up get rid of those laptops and smartphones smell the fresh air, walk on the cool wet grass.
Can't bear to be parted with your technology? send it to me and I'll dispose of it for you (send a couple of quid to me via paypal beforehand just to cover costs like).
what are you waiting for join the REVOLUTION!
PS dear cia fbi mi5 home secretary this is just a joke please don't bash down my door ... I know your reading this ....
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i like to go collecting keeps you in touch with your customers esp if they are out working in the day and you never see them.
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We have been turning people over to bacs it is o.k. for the outlying customers but:
Have found out already.
It is an easy copout for some - we are having to give them a reminder.
New customers I prefer cash unitl you get to know and trust them.
Danger of losing touch with the customers and the round I think you're much easier to drop if they never see you - don't know you.
Walking 20 mins to collect last week we got another 9 jobs to fill in the round.
That doesn't happen with bacs.
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What about payment in kind also I want to be there to collect that!
Maybe that's a niche I could fill? What's the amount being bandied about £5.50 well that's a Hand Shandy at least in my neck of the woods. I could collect that for you and then charge you ten bob for the pleasure which I assure you would be all mine!
Old school window cleaning every panes a pound every 'oles a goal ... marketing genius!
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I'm starting to dislike the online payments,people say they pay then few days later still nothing ,I don't like keep sending but need the money asap.
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I have some good custys who pay online within 2 days but will be collecting on some who said they would pay online over a week ago. MIKE
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i like to go collecting keeps you in touch with your customers esp if they are out working in the day and you never see them.
must admit ive gone back to doing a little collecting after the days work .. only talking about an hour here and there maybe twice a month ... good to see customers and helps with the old cashflow.
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
Since when i pay for every transaction on my business account . MIKE
I used to pay for every transaction too,the more customers I converted to pay by digital banking or cheque,the more my charges were.I changed to Santander,£7.50 a month and gives you unlimited,cheques,transfers etc.
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http://www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk/blog/window-cleaners-reclaim-your-evenings-no-more-round-collecting/
I just started this a week ago.
Lee any chance I can speak with you at some one in regards to the mag/blog
No problem, lee@windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk
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im finding online payments by bank transfer are more common these days,still have lots of SAE and of course collecting.
if customers always dont seem to have any cash,wont pay online or send a cheque quite frankly i cant be bothered cleaning their windows.
im not interested in paypal,payatrader or any of the other services that charge you to get paid.i dont get charged for cheques or bank transfers.most of my older customers pay cash or cheque.collecting on very compact work is easy and good for cashflow.
im finding more and more customers delaying payment or forgetting with online transfers.im having to phone them to remind em!! >:(
bloody annoying but we are always the last to get paid in the great scheme of things!!
i loved it in the old days when it was mainly cash only,no messing about.lots of these young couples with kids are the worst for delaying payment esp with the increase in living costs over the last few years.some ive just dumped.they simply cant afford to have their windows cleaned.
i hate it when they say"ill pay online straight away" and never do.it gives them an excuse to delay payment again!! >:( >:(
I started using Payatrader this week. Whilst working today I got 3 text messages to say 3 customers had paid. I put the customers in my book marked as paid there and then and now I don't have to go out and collect them.
It works for me, my customers have welcomed it. If cost is a problem, charge for online payments, put your prices up by 50p or just say to yourself that you would of spent that anyway collecting it. Its a no brainer for me.
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Hi lee
I never ever collect from day 1.
They pay cash chq on day or post or online.there is no need for anybody to collect really or use a 3rd party to do it for you.
Cheers cliff
I agree. You can set your business up anyway you like. You started that from day one. I bought some of my rounds and just carried collecting like the last guy, I guess I could request cheques and some rounds are cheques only but this is just another payment option. I don't see a problem with it nor do a mind paying 20 or 30 p per transaction.
I get a text and email, no trawling through bank statements.
Here is an email I got from one of my customers yesterday:
your name: Bruce Hughes
comments: Hi Lee,
Just paid using Paytrader....excellent way to go, I was beginning to feel guilty owing £18. Expected the big lads round with baseball bats this weekend?
Trust you are all well.
Nice site by the way.
Kind regards,
One day.... window cleaners will never ever collect, just like you :) lol
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We have been turning people over to bacs it is o.k. for the outlying customers but:
Have found out already.
It is an easy copout for some - we are having to give them a reminder.
New customers I prefer cash unitl you get to know and trust them.
Danger of losing touch with the customers and the round I think you're much easier to drop if they never see you - don't know you.
Walking 20 mins to collect last week we got another 9 jobs to fill in the round.
That doesn't happen with bacs.
I get jobs when not collecting too
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I'm starting to dislike the online payments,people say they pay then few days later still nothing ,I don't like keep sending but need the money asap.
That is the problem with BACS. If you offer an online payment button it is more easier for them to make the payment. I don't really have collecting problems, I hate collecting ( that could be a problem)
This has helped me so much, but might not be for you.
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We have been turning people over to bacs it is o.k. for the outlying customers but:
Have found out already.
It is an easy copout for some - we are having to give them a reminder.
New customers I prefer cash unitl you get to know and trust them.
Danger of losing touch with the customers and the round I think you're much easier to drop if they never see you - don't know you.
Walking 20 mins to collect last week we got another 9 jobs to fill in the round.
That doesn't happen with bacs.
same here I never collect after the clean and pick up work
I get jobs when not collecting too
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
Since when i pay for every transaction on my business account . MIKE
I used to pay for every transaction too,the more customers I converted to pay by digital banking or cheque,the more my charges were.I changed to Santander,£7.50 a month and gives you unlimited,cheques,transfers etc.
Is that right? I have been with Sanatnder Business Banking for years ( previously was Abbey ) I don't pay a dime. Can I ask what the £7.50 is for?
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We have been turning people over to bacs it is o.k. for the outlying customers but:
Have found out already.
It is an easy copout for some - we are having to give them a reminder.
New customers I prefer cash unitl you get to know and trust them.
Danger of losing touch with the customers and the round I think you're much easier to drop if they never see you - don't know you.
Walking 20 mins to collect last week we got another 9 jobs to fill in the round.
That doesn't happen with bacs.
I get jobs when not collecting too
dont we all ::) but collecting gives you an added opportunity and its
one i like taking up :)
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I think it's a good idea to get customers to pay online, but for the life of me I can't see why a windy should use a paid for service when bank transfer is free and instant.
Since when i pay for every transaction on my business account . MIKE
I used to pay for every transaction too,the more customers I converted to pay by digital banking or cheque,the more my charges were.I changed to Santander,£7.50 a month and gives you unlimited,cheques,transfers etc.
The £7.50 is the standard monthly charge for running a Business current account.If yours is free, are you sure they are not charging you per trasnsaction.If you are not paying anything it I would keep it quiet as on the long run there is no such thing as free business banking
Is that right? I have been with Sanatnder Business Banking for years ( previously was Abbey ) I don't pay a dime. Can I ask what the £7.50 is for?
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We have been turning people over to bacs it is o.k. for the outlying customers but:
Have found out already.
It is an easy copout for some - we are having to give them a reminder.
New customers I prefer cash unitl you get to know and trust them.
Danger of losing touch with the customers and the round I think you're much easier to drop if they never see you - don't know you.
Walking 20 mins to collect last week we got another 9 jobs to fill in the round.
That doesn't happen with bacs.
I get jobs when not collecting too
dont we all ::) but collecting gives you an added opportunity and its
one i like taking up :)
???
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waste of money m8t, have you got a share in this app u seem to be selling it a little :) , customers been paying me online for ages never needed anything like this