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Title: Should I phone the Police
Post by: poleman on May 14, 2012, 08:20:10 pm
Sacked an employee last week and i have asked him to return my work wear (boots, trousers, polo-shirts, fleeces)

Total value of about £300 I have been around his house, phoned and text but no reply!!!

He was informed by text that if not returned by today it will be reported as stolen!!

Don't like to do this but is it time to phone the Police!...what would you do!!
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: mikecam on May 14, 2012, 08:33:06 pm
Sacked an employee last week and i have asked him to return my work wear (boots, trousers, polo-shirts, fleeces)

Total value of about £300 I have been around his house, phoned and text but no reply!!!

He was informed by text that if not returned by today it will be reported as stolen!!

Don't like to do this but is it time to phone the Police!...what would you do!!

Think you'll find this is a civil matter and not a police matter. You gave them to him, thats the reason they're in his possesion.
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Londoner on May 14, 2012, 08:34:04 pm
I agree. You won't get anywhere because you gave them to him in the first place IMO
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: bobplum on May 14, 2012, 08:37:11 pm
unless it was in a contract that they were "on loan" i think you will find they belong to him and yes its a civil matter not a police one
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Erithwc on May 14, 2012, 08:39:18 pm
Why did you not keep his wages until the uniform was handed back  ??? ???

Paul
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: magic moments on May 14, 2012, 08:39:41 pm
Had this a few times whilst working in the force,as you said you gave him the workwear so couldn't be classed as stolen,probably at best if you had a signed agreement stating workwear to be returned maybe a slim chance through county courts but highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Ben wood on May 14, 2012, 08:49:27 pm
Hey poleman its woody here not been on here in a while is it an employee that i know
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: stuart mc on May 14, 2012, 08:56:22 pm
not sure on the phoning police, when I laid off a lad I only asked for the parts of the uniform that had my company name back i.e. T shirts, sweatshirts and jackets.

if it was me I would probably just let it go to be honest
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: bobby p on May 14, 2012, 09:01:01 pm
text him you have his bonus pay at yours, just bring back the gear on yer way

once hes handed it over give him a tenner ,he"ll be happy and so will you
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on May 14, 2012, 09:07:24 pm
text him you have his bonus pay at yours, just bring back the gear on yer way

once hes handed it over give him a tenner ,he"ll be happy and so will you

good idea Bobby  ;)
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: poleman on May 14, 2012, 09:07:44 pm
poop I wasn't expecting all your replies saying its a civil matter  :'(

Surly the work wear is company property!!

Hi Ben see your local to me! if I'm honest cant say i know you!  :-\
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Ben wood on May 14, 2012, 09:17:00 pm
We have spoke before as i new of a friend of a friend that worked for you a while back. If im right is he the one that crashed the van a while back
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: rosskesava on May 14, 2012, 09:18:49 pm
I thought theft was to deny a person the rightfull use of their property. If the ex employee is keeping polemans property then surely that has to be theft?

Other than that dunno really.
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: poleman on May 14, 2012, 09:20:28 pm
We have spoke before as i new of a friend of a friend that worked for you a while back. If im right is he the one that crashed the van a while back

Oh yes I rembmer now ben, no wasnt gary still working for me, he's a good worker  :)
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: poleman on May 14, 2012, 09:25:56 pm
I thought theft was to deny a person the rightfull use of their property. If the ex employee is keeping polemans property then surely that has to be theft?

Other than that dunno really.

This is what im thinking!! my company is Ltd and im an employee my self, so surly he is stealing from the company as its work wear given like... personal protective equipment....
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Ben wood on May 14, 2012, 09:38:29 pm
Did not think gary would do that. I would proberley keep going to his and keep calling him maybe give him in writing that he has two days to return if not you will get the police round his. If still not returned then call them
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Window Washers on May 14, 2012, 10:48:15 pm
Sacked an employee last week and i have asked him to return my work wear (boots, trousers, polo-shirts, fleeces)

Total value of about £300 I have been around his house, phoned and text but no reply!!!

He was informed by text that if not returned by today it will be reported as stolen!!

Don't like to do this but is it time to phone the Police!...what would you do!!
I am sure you owe him holiday pay and its in your employment contract about workwear ( or it will be from now on).

I had this done to me last year easier to move on tbh.
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: Ian Lancaster on May 16, 2012, 07:24:16 pm
To be on the safe side, any equipment/uniform etc which you supply as a loan should be clearly stated as such on a written loan agreement and signed by the employee.  That way there is no conflict, the ownership of the property is established and failing to return it constitutes theft.
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: mister bit on May 16, 2012, 07:34:28 pm
Civil matter nothing to do with the police ... just move on save all the stress and hassle
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: geefree on May 16, 2012, 08:26:15 pm
why all the hassle over a couple of bits of clothing?

if the guy wants to walk around in his uniform then he is sad!!

unless he has your logo on it ..... then its a bonus advertising you.

What suprises me is the amount of money invested in a uniform

my uniform with logos are :

boots £24
trousers £8
t shirt with logo £10
jumper £6
fleece £14

all navy blue.

£62 total...

Thats enough to spend on workwear unless you are in to major brand names, which i am not  ;D
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: KS Cleaning on May 16, 2012, 10:58:17 pm
why all the hassle over a couple of bits of clothing?

if the guy wants to walk around in his uniform then he is sad!!

unless he has your logo on it ..... then its a bonus advertising you.

What suprises me is the amount of money invested in a uniform

my uniform with logos are :

boots £24
trousers £8
t shirt with logo £10
jumper £6
fleece £14

all navy blue.

£62 total...

Thats enough to spend on workwear unless you are in to major brand names, which i am not  ;D
The ex employee might want to walk around in his uniform in the evening to collect money tho..Happened to me with an ex employee >:(
Title: Re: Should I phone the Police
Post by: G Griffin on May 16, 2012, 11:23:44 pm
Sacked an employee last week and i have asked him to return my work wear (boots, trousers, polo-shirts, fleeces)

Total value of about £300 I have been around his house, phoned and text but no reply!!!

He was informed by text that if not returned by today it will be reported as stolen!!

Don't like to do this but is it time to phone the Police!...what would you do!!

The same happened to me and I rang the police and explained what had happened. They were very sympathetic and were only too willing to help out. But my latest employee felt a right tit cleaning windows dressed like a police woman.