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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Kriss on May 06, 2012, 12:34:06 pm

Title: need help !
Post by: Kriss on May 06, 2012, 12:34:06 pm
Hi. I have just cleaned the hallway carpet wich colour is beigue. I have used a supreme prespoter as a prespray and then rinsed the carpet by my little sensei.
The black marks still there. Is there any other prespray, chemical
i can use to get it off. Carpet has not been cleand for few years

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Post by: neil 47 on May 06, 2012, 12:55:40 pm
what caused the black marks then treat  ???
have u got a pic ???
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Post by: Kriss on May 06, 2012, 01:00:59 pm
what caused the black marks then treat  ???
have u got a pic ???

People walking  without taken a shoes off.
Ive got pic and i will attach when I come back home ( 15:00 )
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Post by: Kriss on May 06, 2012, 01:45:27 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1336308324_20120505_173727.jpg)
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Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on May 06, 2012, 09:44:01 pm
powerburst at double strength should sort it. Make sure you acid rinse after
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Post by: Kriss on May 06, 2012, 11:07:30 pm
powerburst at double strength should sort it. Make sure you acid rinse after
Thank you for your advise. i will definitely try it  :)
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Post by: Jim_77 on May 07, 2012, 02:07:09 am
Not being funny but cleaning it properly would sort it out.  You'll never get that carpet perfect but it should look a hell of a lot better than that!
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Post by: Kriss on May 07, 2012, 06:57:43 am
Not being funny but cleaning it properly would sort it out.  You'll never get that carpet perfect but it should look a hell of a lot better than that!
chemicals I have used PRESPRAY- supreme prespoter boosted by anti grease DETERGENT-supreme powder extra(heated water) and a finish spray in the end. I was shocked as well  :-\
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Post by: Kriss on May 07, 2012, 07:04:52 am
Carpet is more than 5 years old and never been cleaned before.You must have seen the carpet before i have cleaned it. It was not as good as it is right now :P
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Post by: peter maybury on May 07, 2012, 06:44:34 pm
have never heard of or used the chemicals you mention, have you ever done any training?

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com (http://www.carpetcleanercardiff.com)
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Post by: Carpet Dawg on May 07, 2012, 06:57:20 pm
I think those are extracta chems.

Double dosage of Powerbust (prochem) 5 heaped scoops in 5 litres of hot water, a good scrub with a brush and give it about 15 minute dewell before extrating.

And buy a better machine!

Tony

p.s. spray the prespray down first, before setting up your machine etc etc
Give the bit in front of kitchen entrance (and any other minging bits) an extra soaking after agitating with your brush!
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Post by: Richard Meads on May 07, 2012, 07:03:07 pm
They sound like Ashby's chemicals.  I had some years ago, think I chucked them in the end!
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Post by: Carpet Dawg on May 07, 2012, 07:10:17 pm
Good call! The fact that he said he had a sensei was a give away i guess  :P
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Post by: brianbarber on May 07, 2012, 09:12:59 pm
The weak link is the pre spotter, as others suggest, power burst.
If Sensei is 100 psi model, then single jet wand is much better.

Mr B
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Post by: Kriss on May 07, 2012, 10:41:33 pm
have never heard of or used the chemicals you mention, have you ever done any training?

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com (http://www.carpetcleanercardiff.com)
Hi Peter
I use Ashbys chemicals, and have done STAGE 1, STAGE2 and STAGE3 training course
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Post by: Kriss on May 07, 2012, 11:00:30 pm
I think those are extracta chems.

Double dosage of Powerbust (prochem) 5 heaped scoops in 5 litres of hot water, a good scrub with a brush and give it about 15 minute dewell before extrating.

And buy a better machine!

Tony

p.s. spray the prespray down first, before setting up your machine etc etc
Give the bit in front of kitchen entrance (and any other minging bits) an extra soaking after agitating with your brush!
Hi Tony,
thank you for your advice.I really appreciate. I always give at least 10 min dwell time before extracting, and good scrub with a brush and it always work good, maybe because I have had a decent carpets. Another think is I have only started my business few months ago and unfortunetly i bought my machine brand new so i will have to wait until i earn some decent money to buy something better.
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Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on May 07, 2012, 11:04:06 pm
Nothing wrong with chems I used to use them with no problems when I had my porty

Cheers Tony
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Post by: Kriss on May 07, 2012, 11:05:43 pm
The weak link is the pre spotter, as others suggest, power burst.
If Sensei is 100 psi model, then single jet wand is much better.

Mr B
Ive got sensei 135 psi with double jet wand. Everyone suggest diffrent chemicals, i think i will have to change them as well
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Post by: jim mca on May 08, 2012, 01:06:03 am
get a booster vac for your machine and a crb
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 08, 2012, 06:12:34 pm
 you have done the job right now thats all that matters at the end of the day , ive been cleaning carpets for over 25 years and still picking up little tips

 we have all had jobs like this where we have had to go back to them , and if anybody tells you they havent then there full of bull  ;D  you can have all the training in the world but you never make a cleaner until you been out there and got down and dirty its that simple

i am sure next time you come across this you will wip it clean in a jiffy its all about learning my friend  ;)
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Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 08, 2012, 06:18:57 pm
I'm not sure there is any such thing as 'double strength PB,' you can put as many spoons as you like in the mix but it doesn't make it any stronger. Adding something like Citra boost may well produce the desired result by making it deal with a wider range of soils.
Also, soil sometimes comes off in layers and multiple applications of a pre-spray may well be the answer rather than trying to flood it out in one go.

Simon
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on May 08, 2012, 06:20:37 pm
I'm not sure there is any such thing as 'double strength PB,' you can put as many spoons as you like in the mix but it doesn't make it any stronger. Adding something like Citra boost may well produce the desired result.

Simon


ahhhhhhhh citra boost  wouldnt be with out it  ;)
Title: Re: need help !
Post by: Kriss on May 08, 2012, 11:12:32 pm
you have done the job right now thats all that matters at the end of the day , ive been cleaning carpets for over 25 years and still picking up little tips

 we have all had jobs like this where we have had to go back to them , and if anybody tells you they havent then there full of bull  ;D  you can have all the training in the world but you never make a cleaner until you been out there and got down and dirty its that simple

i am sure next time you come across this you will wip it clean in a jiffy its all about learning my friend  ;)
That is true  :) We learn a liftime Thank you Susan ;-)
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Post by: Kriss on May 08, 2012, 11:19:47 pm
I'm not sure there is any such thing as 'double strength PB,' you can put as many spoons as you like in the mix but it doesn't make it any stronger. Adding something like Citra boost may well produce the desired result by making it deal with a wider range of soils.
Also, soil sometimes comes off in layers and multiple applications of a pre-spray may well be the answer rather than trying to flood it out in one go.

Simon

I will take a notice of that and try take it off in layers next time. Hopefully wont get so many of those carpets :-)
Thank you Simon
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Post by: Jim_77 on May 08, 2012, 11:59:54 pm
This came off in layers  :-X :-X :-X

(http://i45.tinypic.com/27zd6kg.jpg)
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Post by: Kriss on May 09, 2012, 07:36:03 am
I bet, you have not used 135 psi  sensei for it? :P :D
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Post by: Griffus on May 09, 2012, 08:06:50 am
This came off in layers  :-X :-X :-X

(http://i45.tinypic.com/27zd6kg.jpg)

Jim, that one looks like a Damien Hirst!
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Post by: Simon Gerrard on May 09, 2012, 08:46:49 am
Kriss,
Whether soil comes of in layers (or with successive attempts) or not it does give you a sense of whether your chosen chemical is doing the job. You could find with a second attempt that it is removing all but one  type of soil, so you then go after that with the same, or a different chemical depending on what you think the soil is. You will then reach a point of either perfection, or the best it is going to get and that is when you know when to stop and if the result is less than perfect you can hand on heart say you've done your best.

Simon
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Post by: Kriss on May 09, 2012, 01:49:15 pm
Kriss,
Whether soil comes of in layers (or with successive attempts) or not it does give you a sense of whether your chosen chemical is doing the job. You could find with a second attempt that it is removing all but one  type of soil, so you then go after that with the same, or a different chemical depending on what you think the soil is. You will then reach a point of either perfection, or the best it is going to get and that is when you know when to stop and if the result is less than perfect you can hand on heart say you've done your best.

Simon
Good point Simon. I will have to invest in some more different chemicals. Thank you for all advice. It is very important for all of us, and especially for new starters like me :)
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Post by: Jim_77 on May 09, 2012, 04:47:19 pm
Ian, even Damien Hirst wouldn't touch that with his bare hands  :-X

Kriss, you might be surprised to know I was rinsing at only 200psi on that job, but the water was coming out at 240F and getting sucked back with 14"Hg and ~400CFM of air movement ;)

I think if I'd attempted it with a sensei I'd still be there now :)

Simon makes a very good point about soil types and different chemicals.  However I think that the "heavy duty" chemicals we have at our disposal today are so good across such a broad spectrum of soil situations that it's very rare indeed that one will out-perform another to a noticeable level.
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Post by: Kriss on May 09, 2012, 08:38:35 pm
Thanks Jim

hopefully, next time i will be able to upload some better pics and be more satisfied from what i do :)