Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: davids3511 on April 29, 2012, 01:27:24 pm
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Pulled off driveway last night, got about 50 yards and the van rolled to a halt. The engine is still running, but very high pitched engine noise. No power, if I try to move the engine cuts out. Called aa out, apparantly the engine pulled out of its mounts and dropped over to one side, it would be the side with the cam belt. He recons the belt jumped a few notches and damaged the engine. He said it could probably be saved as it is running but will need to be rebuilt.
Just what I needed.
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how did it pull out from its mounts , what van was it and how old
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No idea how it pulled out. It was a w reg scudo.
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Probably cost more then vans worth if you get a garage to do it,could do yourself if you know your way round the engine for maybe 200,probably bent a few valves
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shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
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I don't have a clue how to do it myself. That's what the aa guy said, probably bent valves.
The thing with replacing that van is that you need to have the cash to do it. I have the 500 or so it will take to replace the valves (a guess) but don't have 3/4k for a replacement van.
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shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
Did you do it yourself though? I thought it was a big job like replaceing a head gasket?
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Yep you would have to replace headgasket at sametime along with ,messing with cambelts etc,a garage will charge you more then 500 mate,I doubt they give a proper price untill they see the damage when the head is off
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I have a mobile guy who is quite reasonable. He recently changed a snapped wishbone for £60.00 so I am hoping he won't be garage prices.
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So guys any idea what I'm looking at using a mobile guy if I'm lucky and its just bent valves?
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I used to be a full time mechanic,when I left school i think you be lucky for anything under 700 to be honest,but it could have bent a few valves ,possibly damaged top of pistons but unlikely.
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thats bad news dave .do you want to spend any more money on the van end its life and move on :'(
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mine did it last year, a dispatch, I got away with a new engine mount cost about £70 quid, valves were not damaged, the high pitched noise is more likely the cam belt rubbing, I fixed mine myself
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the engine never gets back to normal ( if its the head ) spend the money on a new van :o
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shud be more than 200
my vivaro did the same 137 quid
137 for what to open up look at it ?, if hes damaged the head in anyway it is going to cost a great deal of money and as already said it will never run the same.
I hope for his sake £137 is the bill but would not be optimistic
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I can get a running scrappy engine for 250. Would it be cheaper to get that fitted instead of stripping down engine?
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david buy nothing until you try the following, get a bit of wood and gently jack the engine back into position, then start and you may find it runs just fine then, if it does you just need to get the engine mount bolted back up, on my van one of the bolts had sheared off and I had to replace the part that the mount bolts into
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Good advice above,if not that get some prices,but if you have a w reg scudo you can pick them up around 1000
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david buy nothing until you try the following, get a bit of wood and gently jack the engine back into position, then start and you may find it runs just fine then, if it does you just need to get the engine mount bolted back up, on my van one of the bolts had sheared off and I had to replace the part that the mount bolts into
I hope this is the case but I'm not usually that lucky. Will try jacking it up tomorrow.
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my engine mount snapped didnt
damage the engine ;)
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The engine sound has changed a lot. It's much higher, almost like it is reviving but it isn't. Could it be leaning on the gear box and so sounding different?
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my engine mount snapped didnt
damage the engine ;)
same here gav
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if the engine ticks over ,non of the valves will be bent
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Of course it can still tick over,obviously would mean less valves bent and the engine would be missing,same as burnt out valves etc,
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Very difficult to say here or there the extent of damage ,but a car still running would indicate less damage,
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tickover= idle speed . they never will idle if a valve is bent,in fact almost impossible to start once valves bent
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The engine sound has changed a lot. It's much higher, almost like it is reviving but it isn't. Could it be leaning on the gear box and so sounding different?
when mine went on the side as yours on basically the same van, the engine dropped and broke the plastic casing and the cam belt was rubbing on that, once back in position and any broken plastic cleared it was fine, it was struggle to refit by myself and took ages to realign if I was closer to you I would take a look but I am miles away, at the left hand side of your engine as you look at it there is three bolts, check these that is where they drop
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tickover= idle speed . they never will idle if a valve is bent,in fact almost impossible to start once valves bent
It'll start and tick over no problem but the engine sounds very different. It cuts out if i try to move it though.
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Getting it looked at at 11am. Here's hoping.
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Good luck!
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Good luck!
Cheers.
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Engine is ok. Guys bolting it back together as I type. Cheers for the advise guys.
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Result...........
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Yay
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thought so, result
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Yay
Good news!
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was it the mount then David ?
Rich
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was it the mount then David ?
Rich
No, the bolts had come loose. He reconed that the engine had been out at some point and the bolts not properly tightened.