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Title: pump & motor question
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 27, 2012, 08:40:47 pm
i've got lots of big pumps and need to knock up a small low pressure unit with an electric motor, I have a 2000psi 25lt/min pump  which would normally need a 18hp petrol engine to run it at full capacity.

 but i only need 350psi....... can I run it with a 3hp 240v motor with the uploader set so low it puts no strain on the engine
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Rob_Mac on April 27, 2012, 08:59:12 pm
I want to answer this because I want you to help me out with an engine and blower combo but I don't know!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Blast Away on April 27, 2012, 09:51:44 pm
Something I'm looking into too as the ventura doesn't mix strong enough for certain surfaces when applying hypo.

#hypoking
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 27, 2012, 11:08:19 pm
Something I'm looking into too as the ventura doesn't mix strong enough for certain surfaces when applying hypo.

#hypoking
Lee ive got an idea which would work for you, get a small 4(ish)hp pressure washer, electric or petrol (pump needs to be self priming though) , put a really big size 08 (or larger?) fan jet on the lance, and run it on tickover, drawing your hypo solution from a large bucket, I know someone that does this and it works great for him, you could even use a telescopic lance with it and pre-spray rooves from the ground!
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 27, 2012, 11:13:41 pm
something like this would be ideal - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Petrol-Pressure-Washer-3-5-hp-/261010122278?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3cc56a6626
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Blast Away on April 27, 2012, 11:36:37 pm
something like this would be ideal - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Petrol-Pressure-Washer-3-5-hp-/261010122278?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3cc56a6626

Yeh that would work. Mount in on top of tank next to generator and m22 female to reel and swap back. Get it sucking from a 45 gallon barrel. Would save a lot of time applying a 1:1 mix.

Where you working in the morning?
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: BDCS on April 28, 2012, 12:32:13 am
Why not drill a chemical injector larger so it picks up more chemical ? Maybe I have missed the point !
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 28, 2012, 12:33:13 am
No where, was supposed to have little en but she's gone back her mums now, got a conservatory to do sunday and may do a driveway but don't know whether to leave the drive till the weather picks up as they want it sealing too....
That washer probably does something like 6 - 8 litres per minute running at full power, on tickover it might do 2 - 3? which would be ideal
What you got tomoz?
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 28, 2012, 12:40:20 am
Why not drill a chemical injector larger so it picks up more chemical ? Maybe I have missed the point !

I think it's metering the amount / ratio of chemical that Lee needs to be precise, it needs to be something that Lee can know for certain he is getting a 1:1 mix of hypo and water, like a scaled up version of a knapsack sprayer that can cover large areas
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Roger Oakley on April 28, 2012, 06:09:05 am
Lee,

I used to use a Shuflo pump, one with Viton or sanderprene seals to apply hypo. You get about a year out of one.
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: mike roberts on April 28, 2012, 09:37:01 am
Why not drill a chemical injector larger so it picks up more chemical ? Maybe I have missed the point !

My thoughts exactly seems simple solution
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 28, 2012, 01:55:38 pm
Lee,

I used to use a Shuflo pump, one with Viton or sanderprene seals to apply hypo. You get about a year out of one.

Theres a thought as bleach is an acid would it damage the pump seals in a pressure washer? hence the viton seals in your sureflo
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Mike Halliday on April 28, 2012, 04:24:14 pm
Why not drill a chemical injector larger so it picks up more chemical ? Maybe I have missed the point !

My thoughts exactly seems simple solution

Don't 't injector work on a Venturi system? If so the size of the intake orifice is very specific to create the draw on the concentrate, drilling it bigger will stop it sythoning.
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Roger Oakley on April 28, 2012, 04:36:52 pm
Lee,

I used to use a Shuflo pump, one with Viton or sanderprene seals to apply hypo. You get about a year out of one.

Theres a thought as bleach is an acid would it damage the pump seals in a pressure washer? hence the viton seals in your sureflo

Chemical injection hoses are usually after the pump, so you shouldn't get any damage to the pump on a PW.
Hypo is an alkali Kenny different end of the ph scale to acid.
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Kenny83 on April 28, 2012, 05:54:00 pm
Lee,

I used to use a Shuflo pump, one with Viton or sanderprene seals to apply hypo. You get about a year out of one.

Theres a thought as bleach is an acid would it damage the pump seals in a pressure washer? hence the viton seals in your sureflo

Chemical injection hoses are usually after the pump, so you shouldn't get any damage to the pump on a PW.
Hypo is an alkali Kenny different end of the ph scale to acid.

Oh right, so if it was to go through a PW pump on a 1:1 mix do you think it would it damage the seals in the pump?
Title: Re: pump & motor question
Post by: Roger Oakley on April 28, 2012, 09:31:58 pm
Lee,

I used to use a Shuflo pump, one with Viton or sanderprene seals to apply hypo. You get about a year out of one.


Theres a thought as bleach is an acid would it damage the pump seals in a pressure washer? hence the viton seals in your sureflo

Chemical injection hoses are usually after the pump, so you shouldn't get any damage to the pump on a PW.
Hypo is an alkali Kenny different end of the ph scale to acid.

Oh right, so if it was to go through a PW pump on a 1:1 mix do you think it would it damage the seals in the pump?

Yes if doing this everyday, every once in a while you might be ok IMO