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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: roundbuilder on April 16, 2012, 07:24:45 pm

Title: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: roundbuilder on April 16, 2012, 07:24:45 pm
am i right in thinking it is some sort of scam???? £1500 just for info on franchising? or have i read into it the wrong way
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Dave Willis on April 16, 2012, 07:45:46 pm
No scam, it's the paperwork and the idea your paying for. Plus on going help.
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: roundbuilder on April 16, 2012, 07:51:05 pm
Who has paid for this then??? Seems ever so steep?
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: taylored on April 16, 2012, 07:56:50 pm
look at how much it would cost to do it on your own :o
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Dave Willis on April 16, 2012, 07:58:51 pm
Well, I haven't but it seems a bit of a bargain to me for anyone wanting to start a franchise. What's the hardest part? Firstly I reckon it's the paperwork and wording of the agreement followed by finding work and the right franchisee. The paperwork is done for you from what I can make out - to do it yourself and run it past a Solicitor wouldn't be cheap anyway.
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 16, 2012, 08:38:37 pm
Spoke to a franchising expert at the franchise show in Birmingham last year.  One guy told me (with a straight face) that I'd be looking at the thick end of £30,000 to franchise.

Back in the real world, just a franchise agreement is likely to sting you for several thousand quid.  You're talking about a 25-30 page document full of legalese that needs to be effective and enforceable.

Makes £1,500 look very cheap to me - also includes help from one of the best-informed guys I know when it comes to knowing how to do it.  If you want my honest opinion (and I've said it to Ian) I think he undercharges.

Vin
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Ian Lancaster on April 18, 2012, 04:05:57 pm
Thank you Vin :)
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on April 18, 2012, 04:32:50 pm
The thing that concerns me is all companies want different things so unless you are willing to run it exactly like Ian then the agreement would need to be changed anyway? Tell me if I am wrong as I am no expert but thats my understanding....
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Perfect Windows on April 18, 2012, 04:38:09 pm
The thing that concerns me is all companies want different things so unless you are willing to run it exactly like Ian then the agreement would need to be changed anyway? Tell me if I am wrong as I am no expert but thats my understanding....

Indeed that's true but 95% of the way I plan to run things is the same as Ian's, so I only need to pay for the 5% to be changed.  For me, that makes it a bargain.

Vin
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on April 18, 2012, 04:52:06 pm
So if I read it and wanted to change 50% I would be better off starting from scratch, to be honest I am tempted to go down this route with a non window cleaning business so really not sure how much help it would be....
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Dave Willis on April 18, 2012, 04:59:28 pm
A non window cleaning business? Are you on the right forum?
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Ian Lancaster on April 18, 2012, 05:00:14 pm
Hi George,

You're right that the contract was written to suit my particular set-up but all 'repeat visit' types of business run in similar ways: franchisees provide services to customers on a repeat basis, collect the fee and then the franchisor invoices them for the 'royalty'.  The rest of the contract is concerned with things like franchisees obligations, franchisors obligations etc.  As Vin said he only needed to alter about 5% to suit his purposes.  Of the other 8 people who are already running my system, no alterations at all were necessary - the contract is written in general terms that cover almost any evetuality you could think of.
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on April 18, 2012, 05:04:55 pm
A non window cleaning business? Are you on the right forum?

Lol there is a big world out there, its similar dont worry...

Hi Ian, I will give you a call tomorrow for a chat if thats ok?
Title: Re: jolisian business systems ltd???
Post by: Ian Lancaster on April 18, 2012, 05:13:28 pm
That's great, George.  Saw your post on the other thread - look forward to your call.  Ian