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Title: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: bobby p on April 03, 2012, 08:40:14 pm
 a bloke swears he sent me a cheque but i didnt get it. i told him check with his bank but he isnt happy that im asking sour questions at the door instead of the
jokey chat .  i remember last year a newish custy cancelled over a missing cheque
then somebody else said they sent me theirs ,but i didnt get it

 these are fairly ordinary people, its about 8 quid each time but im wondering what you guys do?  do you push till they cough up again  or write it off ?
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: sean84 on April 03, 2012, 08:43:07 pm
Surely they can check to see if you have paid the cheque in?!
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: bobby p on April 03, 2012, 08:47:46 pm
Surely they can check to see if you have paid the cheque in?!

they can,but i feel they sense a rogue or a potential scam .

 its such a fickle trade isnt it , i had a lovely old dear threaten to cancel last week because i am stopping collecting at the door, so i gave in and will collect her cash  at the weekends  if she forgets to leave it out for me
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Paul Coleman on April 03, 2012, 08:49:16 pm
a bloke swears he sent me a cheque but i didnt get it. i told him check with his bank but he isnt happy that im asking sour questions at the door instead of the
jokey chat .  i remember last year a newish custy cancelled over a missing cheque
then somebody else said they sent me theirs ,but i didnt get it

 these are fairly ordinary people, its about 8 quid each time but im wondering what you guys do?  do you push till they cough up again  or write it off ?

It's no hardship for them to find out - even if it means them checking the next paper statement (assuming they don't do it online).  All they need to do is cancel the cheque (usually FOC if lost in post) and write out a replacement.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: sean84 on April 03, 2012, 08:49:44 pm
DUMP  ;)
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Rhino dave on April 03, 2012, 08:55:54 pm
AND REPLACE WITH ?
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on April 03, 2012, 08:57:58 pm
Stop taken cheques, its cash or standard Order or Bacs and not forgetting good old Paypal,.

Wait another week and if you haven't received it then, call round or leave it to next time and leave an invoice for £16.00 with the date on when you should pay by, like within a week. ;D


Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: G Griffin on April 03, 2012, 09:00:30 pm
AND REPLACE WITH ?

Two.......
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Jackal on April 03, 2012, 09:10:03 pm
i had one today texed him saying can he leave money in usual place as doing his windows today owes me double,so he says no worries dude,did them and only enough for 1 clean (numpty) texed him an hour ago no reply yet,dumped if he dont tex back
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: SB Cleaning on April 03, 2012, 09:28:33 pm
a bloke swears he sent me a cheque but i didnt get it. i told him check with his bank but he isnt happy that im asking sour questions at the door instead of the
jokey chat .  i remember last year a newish custy cancelled over a missing cheque
then somebody else said they sent me theirs ,but i didnt get it

 these are fairly ordinary people, its about 8 quid each time but im wondering what you guys do?  do you push till they cough up again  or write it off ?
I have had this happen to me a few times, i just tell them i have not recieved the cheque, they usually check their account and cough up.

As he is getting funny about checking i would say he's trying it on.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Londoner on April 03, 2012, 09:34:29 pm
I have had it a few times too. judging from the type of customer I would say they are genuine. I just wrote it off. One woman recently said the cheque had never been cashed (this is some time later) and paid me anyway for the clean.

If I get it now I just ask them to keep an eye on the cheque to see if it goes in.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Tomboler on April 03, 2012, 10:25:44 pm
AND REPLACE WITH ?

Two.......
better quality jobs....I'm getting the hang of this now!

I'd call to try and collect maybe twice but even if they did cough up I'd still dump them. Life has got to be better without people like this. If they're going to try to duck out of paying 8 quid it's hardly worth bothering with.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: king marko on April 03, 2012, 10:30:08 pm
I've had exactly the same problem today - customer phones me moaning I've billed her £24 (£12 for feb) she says she sent a chq and is photocopying and sending me a chq stub to prove it ! I've checked and double checked and I ain't had it so rang her back and asked her when it was cashed - long pause..then "sorry I haven't checked that"  hmmmm ..
Things do get lost in the post love  :)
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: matthewprice on April 03, 2012, 10:34:23 pm
one of my customers was convinced she paid me then payed the guy who works for m.e .i was definate she was wrong had a look in my santander book there was only one cheque ,told her and asked her to look at her cheque book ,and it showed she only wrote one cheque.easy to forget ;)
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Alex Wingrove on April 04, 2012, 08:10:21 am
Always Always Always apportion blame to the undefended.

Not YOU or YOUR CUSTOMER.

Blame the POSTMAN, it has worked without fail for me several times.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: bobby p on April 04, 2012, 08:47:05 am
im starting to think it IS  the postman or somebody in the post system.   its easy to work out that im a windie by seeing my van parked outside and then twig it could be window cash coming my way. 

  for sure about 4 or 5 cheque/cash items havent made it to me in the last year . a few sometimes send me cash instead of a cheque ,altho i say send only  a cheque i guess its quicker to put cash hidden inside a bit of folded paper

 

 
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Smudger on April 04, 2012, 09:07:56 am
bobby - if it was a chq i see no problem with the customer checking the account and issueing another
chq. - even if you wait 4 weeks just to allow a statement etc to sent from the bank - if they are being funny over
this i suspect they are short of cash or can no longer afford the service.

on the odd time it's happened to us ( threw chq in bin by mistake  ::) ) customer had no probs doing a new chq.

you only have real probs when it's cash  >:(  - you haven't had it, they say you have - all gets a bit niggly

Darran
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 04, 2012, 03:15:06 pm
im starting to think it IS  the postman or somebody in the post system.   its easy to work out that im a windie by seeing my van parked outside and then twig it could be window cash coming my way.  

  for sure about 4 or 5 cheque/cash items havent made it to me in the last year . a few sometimes send me cash instead of a cheque ,altho i say send only  a cheque i guess its quicker to put cash hidden inside a bit of folded paper

  

 

I get between 10-25 SAE's trickle trough each week, and without fail the corner of at least one  envelope will be torn....

Mine are professionally printed envelopes that say CLEANCARE WINDOW CLEANING then the address underneath.

I have had to have a word with a couple of custys for sending cash. ironically I have never had a customer say they sent cash that i never received  ???
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Tom White on April 04, 2012, 06:30:33 pm
I keep a cheque register; it just basic.  I list ALL the cheques I receive on there; Date, name, address, amount - I don't think there's a need to write sort codes or account numbers.

Then when I pay them into the bank, total the list up, write the figure under the amount column and the date you put them in the bank.

In this way I KNOW whether I've received a cheque or not - I don't have to ask a customer to check her/his stub or statements.  It safeguards against receiving a cheque, banking it, and not marking it as paid and asking for payment again.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 04, 2012, 07:26:29 pm
I keep a cheque register; it just basic.  I list ALL the cheques I receive on there; Date, name, address, amount - I don't think there's a need to write sort codes or account numbers.

Then when I pay them into the bank, total the list up, write the figure under the amount column and the date you put them in the bank.

In this way I KNOW whether I've received a cheque or not - I don't have to ask a customer to check her/his stub or statements.  It safeguards against receiving a cheque, banking it, and not marking it as paid and asking for payment again.

Your admin background is shining through there, good organisation...

That is definately a level above me at the moment, I got GEORGE a couple of months ago & it really does help with the admin its great.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Rogue Trader on April 04, 2012, 08:27:16 pm
i ado similar every week before i do bank run i photocopy every cheque. each a4 photocopy is 5 cheques all overlapping each other so only the amount and custys name and sort code and acc number shows. I bank on average 100 cheques per week so i have approx 20 sheets of photocopys each week and i write the date on each sheet and keep in date order.

So

Custy phones up and says that they have sent cheque i respnd with  "i photocopy all cheques before they are banked when did you send it" then i check relevant date and 1-2 weeks forward from date  and sometimes cheque is there and is my admin error and sometimes not cheque has been lost in post and custy issues another.

It is a great system to use as it only takes a few minutes every week and there is never any doubts on either side whether a custy has paid or not.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: G Griffin on April 04, 2012, 09:23:47 pm
Ask them to double cheque ie. send it twice.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: H S and Son on April 04, 2012, 09:30:50 pm
Considering your age, could it not be a possibility Bobby that you've simply forgotten that it arrived ;0)
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: Alex Wingrove on April 04, 2012, 09:39:04 pm
or line them up and take a photo with your phone.

The post service lost two cheques from the same village recently.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: G Griffin on April 04, 2012, 09:43:16 pm
or line them up and take a photo with your phone.

The post service lost two cheques from the same village recently.

 :o
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: bobby p on April 04, 2012, 09:55:11 pm
Considering your age, could it not be a possibility Bobby that you've simply forgotten that it arrived ;0)
you cheeky Old monkey.  ;D
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 04, 2012, 10:00:45 pm
Considering your age, could it not be a possibility Bobby that you've simply forgotten that it arrived ;0)
you cheeky Old monkey.  ;D

was it today or yesterday i saw you bobby? the days are blurring into one!
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: bobby p on April 04, 2012, 10:08:20 pm
it was yesterday,we were 3 up in the van on  Chantry(1 hiding in back behind the scrim "privacy curtain "  .  your new chrome signwriting was admired by the lads
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on April 04, 2012, 10:14:19 pm
it was yesterday,we were 3 up in the van on  Chantry(1 hiding in back behind the scrim "privacy curtain "  .  your new chrome signwriting was admired by the lads

 ;D

I was popping round my old dears house, shes only round the corner.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: H S and Son on April 04, 2012, 11:40:20 pm
Considering your age, could it not be a possibility Bobby that you've simply forgotten that it arrived ;0)
you cheeky Old monkey.  ;D

Happened to me this week. I popped round to collect and she reminded me her old man had paid when I did them  ???  ;D
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: richard jagger on April 05, 2012, 05:32:52 am
If a custie said they paid by cheque and you have not received the amount is still outstanding and due unless they can prove by there bank statement as proof that it has gone through there account. That`s legal.
I once was robbed and lost about 10 large cheques and my attorney said the debt was still outstanding until they could prove I received that cheque and  it was cleared by there bank. As a cheque is a promissory note to pay,and as such not a payment until in my account. If a receive cash I write a receipt as its just good business practice. Custies also see you are more professional and don`t seem to argue so persistently.   
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: BVC on April 05, 2012, 11:30:58 pm
seriously thinking about scrapping cheques altogether and doing all payments at time of clean or online.

BVC.
Title: Re: what to do when custy says they sent the money but i didnt get
Post by: dazmond on April 06, 2012, 09:08:35 am
has happened to me once.i texted a reminder to a custy and she said she sent the cheque a month ago!so she sent another one and i got it within 3 days.then about 2 weeks later i got the original cheque!so i phoned her up and destroyed and binned it.

these things happen from time to time.