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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David lyddon on March 28, 2012, 09:37:55 pm

Title: wfpoled out
Post by: David lyddon on March 28, 2012, 09:37:55 pm
 ???Been working with pure freedom trolley about 2 months.
My problem is poor finish on glass,i clean the frames and rinse on 50 on the trolley.
have a lot of spotting,my tds is 0.000.
i always did a good job trad,so this is hard to take,also i have accepted i will lose custies.
just not feeling very possitive of late.
regards dave.
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: Tom White on March 28, 2012, 09:41:32 pm
Gets better in month 3; trust me; by month 5 you'll be laughing.

Also, ditch the trolley if you can, and go van mounted.  Don't cite parking as an excuse, you just have to get to within 100 meters of your property.

HTH
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: firefly123 on March 28, 2012, 09:45:49 pm
dave mate been a windy 30 years now trad 4 years wfp over years you will gett a large residue of liquid on the glass doing trad this will take time to get of with wfp it will take 4 to 5 cleans  at least to get a good finish with wfp stick with it mate remember you cant please all of Joe public
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: Smudger on March 28, 2012, 09:53:27 pm
keep at it - your on a steep learning curve

scrub & rinse the frames really well - it will pay dividens on the next clean -  take your time ! - you will speed up with experience

Darran
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: David lyddon on March 28, 2012, 10:07:35 pm
cheers guys,going to have to man up ;D
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: richard jagger on March 28, 2012, 10:31:09 pm
Also, ditch the trolley if you can, and go van mounted.  
I an tired of reading advice like this remember a trolley is a van mount with a  small tank.
Its easy to start at the top.
I have this ionic system and a fancy sign written van with a wrap a round.
Just look at me I am a top windy.
Remember they all clean the same.its the tools in the smart hands that achieve results.
No wonder customer do not respect our industry.
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: dazmond on March 29, 2012, 08:37:09 am
keep going mate and yes leave the trolley in the van connected up to a tank and 100m of microbore.using trolleys all day is harder work than it needs to be.plus you ll waste time changing barrels/pushing trolley.

best wishes


dazmond
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: richard jagger on March 29, 2012, 09:58:34 am
What you can try is a table spoon of borax in you trolley this brakes down chemical build up. Its added in many cleaning agents. Its a white powder. You will need to de solve this powder a litre of pure before adding it to you trolley water and it will have to be rinsed of with pure after a good scrub.
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: best on March 29, 2012, 10:41:23 am
I have a backpack and a 250l trailer setup
when i use the backpack i am always trying to use less water
when i use my trailer i use more water but get a better job
its all down to alot of scrubbing and rinsing, at least on the the first few cleans
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: david willis on March 29, 2012, 01:53:49 pm
???Been working with pure freedom trolley about 2 months.
My problem is poor finish on glass,i clean the frames and rinse on 50 on the trolley.
have a lot of spotting,my tds is 0.000.
i always did a good job trad,so this is hard to take,also i have accepted i will lose custies.
just not feeling very possitive of late.
regards dave.

Dave

Can't you try and find a fellow window cleaner in or around your area to have a day with and see what they are doing and maybe where you are going wrong?
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: richard jagger on March 29, 2012, 02:55:01 pm
I have a backpack and a 250l trailer setup
when i use the backpack i am always trying to use less water
when i use my trailer i use more water but get a better job
its all down to alot of scrubbing and rinsing, at least on the the first few cleans
  If one says rinse its not quite right.
What we really do is wet the glass agitate the dirt and flush and float of the dirt.
Reduce water flow and you reduce the floating ability of pure water. Which will take longer to clean and therefore in turn use more water or have problem with the result. I don`t believe saving water is good for the best result.Were we see this working is on flat conny roves low flow, no clean.
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: Tom White on March 29, 2012, 05:07:34 pm
Also, ditch the trolley if you can, and go van mounted.  
I an tired of reading advice like this remember a trolley is a van mount with a  small tank.
Its easy to start at the top.
I have this ionic system and a fancy sign written van with a wrap a round.
Just look at me I am a top windy.
Remember they all clean the same.its the tools in the smart hands that achieve results.
No wonder customer do not respect our industry.

No, wiz, it's not window cleaning snobbery.  If a window cleaner has a van, then the cost of making it into a van mounted WFP system is probably cheaper than buying a trolley.  You get a 2nd hand tank for under £100, a pump and controller £150, hose and hosereel £100 - so total cost is about £350.

Obviously if someone has a trolley system, they'll already have the water purification stuff, holding tank and poles.

It's just an EASIER way to work, so you can work quicker and longer and make more money.
Title: Re: wfpoled out
Post by: richardlingard on March 30, 2012, 05:39:26 pm
100% tosh :-)