Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Paddy Woods on March 23, 2012, 09:22:14 pm
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Canvassed an area recently & tonight got a call saying will burn my van & attack wife & kids !
What should I do??
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phone the cops ???
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bet he witheld his number? All talk, ive had it, i went and saw the fella who called me...couldnt apologise to me enough the twat >:(
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phone the police they can track the number even if it was witheld
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omg! :-[
call the police!
let us know after that!
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Wife and children mentioned, go to the police.
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Wife and children mentioned, go to the police.
totally agree
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Hi Pat, that's shocking!
There's 3 scenarios here you could either
1, Go round mob-handed and kick the living crap out of him...
2, Ring him first thing in the morning when his hangover is at it's worst and try talking sense to him
Or 3, Call the cops, mentioning the kids and wife is bang out of order.
Good luck mate.
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Wife and children mentioned, go to the police.
totally agree
total agree too!
don't wait!
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Phone him , record him , then play that to the police.
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His number came up even gave his name! But will going to police not make it worse!
Phone the police! Phoning the police will not make it worse; I've been in a similar - but worse situation - a couple of goons threatened Wor Lass and I face to face - not over the telephone.
Oh, him phoning you shows that he's full of urine mind, if he were serious, he'd have visited you BTW; so I wouldn't worry too much.
But the police discussed all possible angles, including the 'making the situation worse'; they were very good, I can't fault the police we dealt with.
Now, phone the police, it's mega important you do; two or more incidents can be classed as harassment (though there's probably more since you've been threatened), but for these to be counted as incidents means that you must report the first one.
And FFS keep canvassing. Don't jack it in because some coward has threatened you over the phone. Transform any negative feelings you feel into a strong determination that you'll stick with canvassing and improving your business. This is mega important. The nob 'eads that do this sort of thing don't tend to last anyway. It takes a bit of character to stick this business.
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when i fisrt started i had some big idiot hurling threats at me i ignored them
untill he came over one day and made a crap job of dropping the nut on me even though
it hurt it didnt stop me punching the big lug in the gonads he went down like a sack of crap
and i proceeded to kick the crap out of him i then knifed his tyres threw his ladders in the canal
we were next to and then i proceeded to threaten all sorts of retribution if he came anywhere
near me and mentioned my family again.
obviously i had lost control and there was a couple of moments where i would of happily
drowned him.
the truth is at the time i was pleased with myself this twat had me stressing out most days
and if i had cut his throat he would of got what i deserved far as i was concerned
but it was idiotic and i could of landed myself in deep poope lucky i didnt
the lesson to be learnt was if anything ever happened similar again i would be straight
onto the police
i strongly suggest you do the same because you never know how things can escalate
so nip it in the bud and let the coppers deal with it
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Hope all goes ok mate, what a fecker !!!. Head says call police, but anyone threatens my wife and kids it would become personal and probs would have it out with the twat (but thats just me..lol ). Don't let it put you off mate, I speak to quite a few windys on our travels and all have been top blokes, helpful with no bad words and plenty of work for everyone.
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Reported !but boy it has shaken me up !!thanks guys for your comments but when wife & kids are mention it becomes whole different story ....
well done pod you will sleep better for it. but forget about it for tonight now dont lose sleep over this idiot.
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you have done the right thing :)
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Where in lancashire are you?
You've done the right thing by reporting it. Don't let him scare you. I would think that if he's worried about losing customers that's we're I'd get him. Canvass even harder and erode his business
Go after him
Danny
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Reported !but boy it has shaken me up !!thanks guys for your comments but when wife & kids are mention it becomes whole different story ....
well done pod you will sleep better for it. but forget about it for tonight now dont lose sleep over this idiot.
total agree!
Well done pod! :)
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I had a similar situation a while ago, I took someone on in my team who has got huge potential and he brought some customers with him too boot -long and short , a couple of goons took immense dislike to this and gave him verbals in the street.
My immediate response( within in 15 mins) was to inform local plod and got a reference number.No further instances since then , but I have been on a personal mission to bury this twat and his crew into the ground since then( with great success with relentless canvassing)
Do not, ever ever give in to these bullies.You are entitled to work where you want and with whom you want.Please contact the police as they will work with you especially if they have threatened your family
And then bury this moron in the ground with your excellent service and dedication
Regards
Roy
(apologies for the tirade ,but can't stand bullies !!)
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Best of luck pod
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call the c£$t out kick the living poop out of him and then take his work, if someone did that to me i would do time, its only window cleaning there is more then enough house to go round, if he wants to be like that give him a good f***ing kicking mug
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call the c£$t out kick the living poop out of him and then take his work, if someone did that to me i would do time, its only window cleaning there is more then enough house to go round, if he wants to be like that give him a good f***ing kicking mug
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Now behave, post nicely - I know it's Friday evening and you may have had a few shandies - but there's no need to be our forum 'interweb hard man' - be professional and remember that swearing, even in asterix form, is viewed as being naughty.
Thank you for your co-operation.
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call the c£$t out kick the living poop out of him and then take his work, if someone did that to me i would do time, its only window cleaning there is more then enough house to go round, if he wants to be like that give him a good f***ing kicking mug
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/tosh0987/The-Office-gifs-the-office-14948948-240-196.gif)
Now behave, post nicely - I know it's Friday evening and you may have had a few shandies - but there's no need to be our forum 'interweb hard man' - be professional and remember that swearing, even in asterix form, is viewed as being naughty.
Thank you for your co-operation.
+1
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I feel bad as it was me that canvassed the work, the muppet rang me and threatened my family just after pat, I rang him back to try and find out what he was ranting about. He just said I had broken the unwritten rule of window cleaning and canvassed his patch and under cut him. The patch thing is an impossible thing not to do as there are window cleaners everywhere. As for undercutting, I NEVER compete on price or undercut, the only people I take on board are those that have no window cleaner or unhappy with the one they have. All fair game in my opinion, its just business. But some muppet threatening peoples families over a few quid is just madness....
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All the best Pod, tough day, chin up fella.
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I feel bad as it was me that canvassed the work, the muppet rang me and threatened my family just after pat, I rang him back to try and find out what he was ranting about. He just said I had broken the unwritten rule of window cleaning and canvassed his patch and under cut him. The patch thing is an impossible thing not to do as there are window cleaners everywhere. As for undercutting, I NEVER compete on price or undercut, the only people I take on board are those that have no window cleaner or unhappy with the one they have. All fair game in my opinion, its just business. But some muppet threatening peoples families over a few quid is just madness....
I hope you have called the police too GD?
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Not yet mate, will do it in the morning.... The police who spoke to pat have said its important that I do...
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I feel bad as it was me that canvassed the work, the muppet rang me and threatened my family just after pat, I rang him back to try and find out what he was ranting about. He just said I had broken the unwritten rule of window cleaning and canvassed his patch and under cut him. The patch thing is an impossible thing not to do as there are window cleaners everywhere. As for undercutting, I NEVER compete on price or undercut, the only people I take on board are those that have no window cleaner or unhappy with the one they have. All fair game in my opinion, its just business. But some muppet threatening peoples families over a few quid is just madness....
what else did you say to him?
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Not yet mate, will do it in the morning.... The police who spoke to pat have said its important that I do...
Do it George, this sort of thing needs stopping it also affects business
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Cant repeat what I said to him on here, tosh would tell me off lol
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Cant repeat what I said to him on here, tosh would tell me off lol
lol ;D
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It proper wound me up at the time, what kind of muppet threatens a mans wife and kids over a few quid?
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It proper wound me up at the time, what kind of muppet threatens a mans wife and kids over a few quid?
an insecure one
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Its starting to make me smile now I have calmed down, how am I or anyone else for that matter supposed to canvass or leaflet for new work? Every street has a window cleaner so its always someones patch. I regularly knock on window cleaners doors and they have always been absolutely fine....
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The police in this country are useless...
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...what was the Police's response GD?
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Canvassed an area recently & tonight got a call saying will burn my van & attack wife & kids !
What should I do??
That's shocking! :o
But make sure your van is safe. Put it in your garage or get a lock up ;D.
Seriously, I'd ring the police but having read gary999's reply, I'd be tempted to ask him for a bit of help :D.
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Best thing to do is to go to the police.... BUT BUT BUT do not rely on the police they are useless mate.... jsut carry on with what your doing.... if he phones you again say to him why are you phoning me ? say say it to my face. and stand your ground mate dont be scared just be casual and he will be the one that ends up being scared.
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Although I support the option of complaining to the police first and foremost, the object of the whole exercise is to prevent the idiot(s) carrying out the threat. Getting beaten up isn't much fun - especially if other family members are involved.
Therefore it might be a good time to mention that a bird poo scraper is a legal tool of trade to carry around while working.
I would not advocate using such a potentially lethal item for non work purposes but if it can be seen that you have one on you, it might deter someone from attacking.
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Hi
This is the very kind of thing I was worried about. What is it about window cleaning that seem to attract these neanderthal kind of morons?
I am busying and getting active round my area and the looks and evil eye I am getting from other windies - there are loads and loads btw!!!
I mean if a gas fitter or electrician of plumber turns up to do his work I doubt very much there would be that much animosity from other tradesmen.
Must be just window cleaning and ice cream - remember the famous ice cream wars in Glasgow?
Oh well hope it turns out well Pod. I really feel for you I have been through the neighbours from hell scenario and years of harrassment - cars vandalised, wife punched etc... it's no joke.
G.
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Must be just window cleaning and ice cream - remember the famous ice cream wars in Glasgow?
it wasnt ice cream they were fighting over ... they were selling drugs and using vans as cover
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If you are genuinely scared, maybe just stay out if that area. Plenty more areas without those type of idiots. Not sure what I'd do myself.
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Canvassed an area recently & tonight got a call saying will burn my van & attack wife & kids !
What should I do??
That's shocking! :o
But make sure your van is safe. Put it in your garage or get a lock up ;D.
Seriously, I'd ring the police but having read gary999's reply, I'd be tempted to ask him for a bit of help :D.
wouldnt recomend it made me even more stressed for a while and it was a serious post
you loonypool supporting lunatic.
physically i got lucky could of been me going in the canal let the authorities deal with it
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Duncan Bannatyne book Anyone can do it! Give it a read, he had similar with his ice cream business. I think he sorted it out pretty sharpish! ;)
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Although I support the option of complaining to the police first and foremost, the object of the whole exercise is to prevent the idiot(s) carrying out the threat. Getting beaten up isn't much fun - especially if other family members are involved.
Therefore it might be a good time to mention that a bird poo scraper is a legal tool of trade to carry around while working.
I would not advocate using such a potentially lethal item for non work purposes but if it can be seen that you have one on you, it might deter someone from attacking.
be better off using an old vikan sill brush wrapped in a giant scrim a la pool ball and sock technique ;D
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well guys been to police...they said i could get him banged up for the night & he'd be released tomorrow on bail if i signed the statement,but i declined as i said may make matters worse...but they are paying him a visit and records will be stored!
i dont mind someone saying to me hey i do this area & who are you etc (as he was losing lots of custy's) but to say he'll get my family crossed a line :(
i analyze myself over weekend and is it right etc to go near someone's 'patch'...but if i was losing work & someone canvassed my area, honestly i dont mind anyone going over my work cause if custy's want to go with someone else means they aint happy with my service!!
Business is business if a local cleaner loses work to me thats just tough crap they should provide a better service full stop.
Regards Paul
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what area did you canvas for this to happen, johnny h.,
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It was in Bolton, just down the road from the football ground...
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Jesus that's bad but to mention your Family! :o .... Go straight to the Police Staion.
Best Of Luck.
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Jesus that's bad but to mention your Family! :o .... Go straight to the Police Staion.
Best Of Luck.
he did it, 1 month and a half ago ;D ;D