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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on March 12, 2012, 01:03:42 pm
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been speaking to the accountant today and ive decided to go vat registered from april, prob the best time to do it as prices need increasing as never had price increase in 3-4 years hopefully my customer will understand its needs to be done to grow the company hopefully itll make me some savings, the accountant has got it through to me that it shouldnt cost you more money its should make me savings in the long run, i was getting worried as iv always looked at it as another cost
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Surprised you have not had to do it before. Limit used to be 67k yearly turnover you must have been far exceeding that for some time?
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the accountant been upto date now ready for the april 12 return and he said i should be under it with all the ballaches this last year and days not working prob kept us under had we worked everyday prob be a different story
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been speaking to the accountant today and ive decided to go vat registered from april, prob the best time to do it as prices need increasing as never had price increase in 3-4 years hopefully my customer will understand its needs to be done to grow the company hopefully itll make me some savings, the accountant has got it through to me that it shouldnt cost you more money its should make me savings in the long run, i was getting worried as iv always looked at it as another cost
i still look at is as an expense! Maybe i need a new accountant ???
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been speaking to the accountant today and ive decided to go vat registered from april, prob the best time to do it as prices need increasing as never had price increase in 3-4 years hopefully my customer will understand its needs to be done to grow the company hopefully itll make me some savings, the accountant has got it through to me that it shouldnt cost you more money its should make me savings in the long run, i was getting worried as iv always looked at it as another cost
i still look at is as an expense! Maybe i need a new accountant ???
Sitting on the internet talking to other window cleaners on here is an expense in lost of potential customers and income but we all do it ;D ;D
Thats it im leaving cleanitup to take over the world ;D ;D
Im back i couldn't do it i started shaking and sweating :D :D :D
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its a shame to cap it off at 73,000 when ive put so much into it ive done some sums and if andy goes out every 30 days doing 300 a day thats 79,000 a year so with the leaflet drops im planning thru the summer i should pick up enough work to b hitting 300 a day comfortably as only need another 100 or so customers
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You sure your customers can take a price increase, then 20% vat on top?
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Its quite a price hike.
" Sorry customer I know its a recession but I'm putting the price up 20%" ;D
My guess is your accountant can charge you more for the accounts if you register.
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300 everyday with someone else doing the work??? Someone is living in a dreamworld.
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300 quid a day is achievable by staff......if you get the right people! That's another job altogether!!!!
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300 a day is easily achievable hes done 277 today and didnt leave till 8.30, 15min drive to the area and was back at 3pm 14 jobs completed inc a fascia job
ive got lucky with my employee and coz hes happy to clean so much is the only reason i havent downsized to just me as i personally can only do 180-200 on a good day
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the accountant has got it through to me that it shouldnt cost you more money its should make me savings in the long run,
How does this work?
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because of the vat i can claim back off unit,fuel,accountants costs etc money im just throwing away at the moment
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Are you passing the extra 20% onto the customers EG £10 job becomes £12 or absorbing it so same £10 job is now £8.33 + 1.66 VAT = £10 ??
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Flat rate vat is the way to go on domestics,
Especially if you have a mix of commercial too.
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Flat rate vat is the way to go on domestics,
Especially if you have a mix of commercial too.
heard this a few times but what is flat rate .. how does it work ?
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because of the vat i can claim back off unit,fuel,accountants costs etc money im just throwing away at the moment
Only if you add the vat to customers' bills. If you absorb, it will cost you.
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IAN IM GOING TO DO PRICE INCREASE AS HAVENT PUT PRICES UP IN 4 YEARS ON LOWER PRICED WORK I THINK IL ET AWAY WITH 20% BUT ON JOBS OVER 15QUID I THINK IM GNA HAVE TO SWALLOW SOME
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IAN IM GOING TO DO PRICE INCREASE AS HAVENT PUT PRICES UP IN 4 YEARS ON LOWER PRICED WORK I THINK IL ET AWAY WITH 20% BUT ON JOBS OVER 15QUID I THINK IM GNA HAVE TO SWALLOW SOME
sounds like a plan of action to me ..... im doing price increases from April with some underpriced stuff going up a few quid ... early jobs were Ive not charged enough for connys mainly but most else going up by a pound or two.
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IAN IM GOING TO DO PRICE INCREASE AS HAVENT PUT PRICES UP IN 4 YEARS ON LOWER PRICED WORK I THINK IL ET AWAY WITH 20% BUT ON JOBS OVER 15QUID I THINK IM GNA HAVE TO SWALLOW SOME
To you that is no increase then as you have to hand the 20% to HMRC.
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been speaking to the accountant today and ive decided to go vat registered from april, prob the best time to do it as prices need increasing as never had price increase in 3-4 years hopefully my customer will understand its needs to be done to grow the company hopefully itll make me some savings, the accountant has got it through to me that it shouldnt cost you more money its should make me savings in the long run, i was getting worried as iv always looked at it as another cost
I'd get a second oppionon on that mate. ;)
Worst thing you could do IMO.
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IAN IM GOING TO DO PRICE INCREASE AS HAVENT PUT PRICES UP IN 4 YEARS ON LOWER PRICED WORK I THINK IL ET AWAY WITH 20% BUT ON JOBS OVER 15QUID I THINK IM GNA HAVE TO SWALLOW SOME
sounds like a plan of action to me ..... im doing price increases from April with some underpriced stuff going up a few quid ... early jobs were Ive not charged enough for connys mainly but most else going up by a pound or two.
Im doing a price rise of around 20% across the board some a £1 some £5
But not had one for few years
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vat what a joke avoid it like :-[a lot of hassle for nothing,i have been trying to de-register vat as we have dropped below the 72,000 cap but the tax man wont let us .it just seems like another bill to worry about
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go the flat rate option . you charge custys 20 percent extra. (wont matter on commercial cause they can claim back the
vat) and the vat man wants 10 or 12 per cent of that so you get to keep whats left . downsize to that is you cant
claim vat back on fuel and general expenses. im thinking of it and talked to accountant about it . do the sums if you
earn 80 grand then that gives you 96 grand with vat . you give the vat man 8 grand . thats how i understand it. of
course remember the acc wants a chunk of that and vat will need to be up to date every quarter or there will be penalties
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Your accountant will love you going vat registered as he will be charging you every 3 months for submitting your vat returns! I dont think you will like that!. Why not get rid of your unit? this way you would have 1 less expense and make a greater profit! IMO you will need a turnover of £100k to be any better off than just keeping under the vat thresshold. I might be wrong!!
Whatever you do I hope it works mate
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Richy
Just called you.
I put VAT onto my domestic round because I had gone over the threshold, I swallowed the 17.5% and got it back by increasing customers, levelling myself with what I originally was earning before the increase.
It doesn't have to be a problem but it may affect domestic customers, don't tell them it is included and they will either agree your price or not.
If you do go VAT registered get into the habit of putting it on one side and don't spend it.
If you call me about the other I will give you my thoughts
Rob ;D
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quoted 800 to do my vat returns per annum . my only worry is it makes an easy way of earning a living a little more complicated. oh what to do ??? ???
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claim vat back on fuel and general expenses. im thinking of it and talked to accountant about it .
Don't think you can on flat rate.
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Richy, is your worker a bit ................. well, challenged in the brain department? Will he stay with you next year? Does he know about this site?
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On the flat rate you cannot claim vat back on purchases under 2k.
You raise the invoice ie £1000 + £200 vat = £1200
You pay the vat man 12% £120 and you pocket £80.
Its especially good on domestics if you're swallowing the vat as you will only be swallowing 12% instead of the 20%.
The first year you also get a 1% discount.
Its all good fun,
Dean.
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Do the vat return your self it's so easy
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claim vat back on fuel and general expenses. im thinking of it and talked to accountant about it .
Don't think you can on flat rate
sorry you misunderstood me i don't think you read this right i said you cant claim vat back on fuel and general expenses. bud
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Your running the business not your accountant,vat is something you never ever want to jump the gun on.Add up your last 13 weeks income and post it on here.Keep track of a rolling 13 weeks(vat quarter) income by dropping off the furthest week away and adding the most recent.When you find you are consistently over the threshold then you can think about whether its worth it.You want a business but don`t want to be on the glass yourself and thats fair enough.Relying on this one man though is quite frankly bloody ridiculous and as there appears to be a decent income from work you already have then now is the time for another employee and that will cut profit which is just the way it is,thats how it works in real life! You might end up with 10 employes and 5 or 6 vans and you wont get near what that guy you have working for you would make for himself if it was his own work.Your going to need every penny this bloke is bringing in to get the business rolling forward and take nothing for yourself.You really ought to do at least a couple of hundred yourself weekly to keep money in your own pocket whilst the employees income feeds the business.If your not going to work then stop spending.
Employee on holiday,sick,injured,£3000 bill for a van repair plus time off the road and the vat man wants his money and you aint got it,income dropped below the threshold but the vat man won`t let you deregister until he has evidence over the next 4 quarters,nice bills from the accountant whilst his time is spent dealing with it all.
I`d also be a little concerned with the fact your man seems to consistently do £50 an hour inc. travel time and i wouldn`t dismiss a link between this and a fact you have mentioned previously that there seems to be difficulties in getting paid from customers.
You probably deserve to end up somewhere simply because you are still going but reel in on this vat idea until you have the 13 previous weeks regularly above the threshold,get another guy employed pronto and this will help to remove the fragility that exists with just one man providing everything.
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Your running the business not your accountant,vat is something you never ever want to jump the gun on.Add up your last 13 weeks income and post it on here.Keep track of a rolling 13 weeks(vat quarter) income by dropping off the furthest week away and adding the most recent.When you find you are consistently over the threshold then you can think about whether its worth it.You want a business but don`t want to be on the glass yourself and thats fair enough.Relying on this one man though is quite frankly bloody ridiculous and as there appears to be a decent income from work you already have then now is the time for another employee and that will cut profit which is just the way it is,thats how it works in real life! You might end up with 10 employes and 5 or 6 vans and you wont get near what that guy you have working for you would make for himself if it was his own work.Your going to need every penny this bloke is bringing in to get the business rolling forward and take nothing for yourself.You really ought to do at least a couple of hundred yourself weekly to keep money in your own pocket whilst the employees income feeds the business.If your not going to work then stop spending.
Employee on holiday,sick,injured,£3000 bill for a van repair plus time off the road and the vat man wants his money and you aint got it,income dropped below the threshold but the vat man won`t let you deregister until he has evidence over the next 4 quarters,nice bills from the accountant whilst his time is spent dealing with it all.
I`d also be a little concerned with the fact your man seems to consistently do £50 an hour inc. travel time and i wouldn`t dismiss a link between this and a fact you have mentioned previously that there seems to be difficulties in getting paid from customers.
You probably deserve to end up somewhere simply because you are still going but reel in on this vat idea until you have the 13 previous weeks regularly above the threshold,get another guy employed pronto and this will help to remove the fragility that exists with just one man providing everything.
One of the best posts I have read in a long time, unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears
Arrt
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I fail to see any advantage in going VAT registered. Having been VAT registered myself in the past
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Your running the business not your accountant,vat is something you never ever want to jump the gun on.Add up your last 13 weeks income and post it on here.Keep track of a rolling 13 weeks(vat quarter) income by dropping off the furthest week away and adding the most recent.When you find you are consistently over the threshold then you can think about whether its worth it.You want a business but don`t want to be on the glass yourself and thats fair enough.Relying on this one man though is quite frankly bloody ridiculous and as there appears to be a decent income from work you already have then now is the time for another employee and that will cut profit which is just the way it is,thats how it works in real life! You might end up with 10 employes and 5 or 6 vans and you wont get near what that guy you have working for you would make for himself if it was his own work.Your going to need every penny this bloke is bringing in to get the business rolling forward and take nothing for yourself.You really ought to do at least a couple of hundred yourself weekly to keep money in your own pocket whilst the employees income feeds the business.If your not going to work then stop spending.
Employee on holiday,sick,injured,£3000 bill for a van repair plus time off the road and the vat man wants his money and you aint got it,income dropped below the threshold but the vat man won`t let you deregister until he has evidence over the next 4 quarters,nice bills from the accountant whilst his time is spent dealing with it all.
I`d also be a little concerned with the fact your man seems to consistently do £50 an hour inc. travel time and i wouldn`t dismiss a link between this and a fact you have mentioned previously that there seems to be difficulties in getting paid from customers.
You probably deserve to end up somewhere simply because you are still going but reel in on this vat idea until you have the 13 previous weeks regularly above the threshold,get another guy employed pronto and this will help to remove the fragility that exists with just one man providing everything.
One of the best posts I have read in a long time, unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears
Arrt
I felt it to be a highly informative post too. Nice one!
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if andy goes out every 30 days doing 300 a day thats 79,000 a year
There isn't 30 working days per month and your guy will be entitled to 5.8 weeks holidays and will be off sick from time to time. Why not take on a part timer to work with him for 2/3 days per week, so that you have cover for the downtime, with the 100 new customers you intend to take on you would be able to absorb them easily with 1.5 people.
VAT - I think you are doing right by registering as you intend to expand and increase your business. My concern is that you don't quite understand what vat is (no offence meant :) and how it works. :)
You need to do some examples for yourself before you take the plunge.
a)Add up your overheads for a standard month and calculate how much of this is vat.
b)Then calculate how much vat you would charge customers on a standard month.
Deduct a from b and this is how much per month you have to pay HMRC if on full vat.
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if andy goes out every 30 days doing 300 a day thats 79,000 a year
There isn't 30 working days per month and your guy will be entitled to 5.8 weeks holidays and will be off sick from time to time. Why not take on a part timer to work with him for 2/3 days per week, so that you have cover for the downtime, with the 100 new customers you intend to take on you would be able to absorb them easily with 1.5 people.
VAT - I think you are doing right by registering as you intend to expand and increase your business. My concern is that you don't quite understand what vat is (no offence meant :) and how it works. :)
You need to do some examples for yourself before you take the plunge.
a)Add up your overheads for a standard month and calculate how much of this is vat.
b)Then calculate how much vat you would charge customers on a standard month.
Deduct a from b and this is how much per month you have to pay HMRC if on full vat.
sorry helen the comment you highlighted doesnt read right, what i meant was ive arranged my work now as it stands over thirty days if i can average 300 for each day over the year in theory that should bring a predicted turnover of 79000 obv less days where u cant work, xmas time etc me covering andy if he was off on holiday or sick etc
i have prob 20 days out the 30 which are at 300 or over so need to build up a few of the other day
as you know i have overheads so this 79000 wouldnt provide me with a great income with overheads i currently have so only option is to get rid of andy and have a big unit just for me or try and build up for now so andy van continuously goes out cleaning min 300 a day and then build up new rounds for me to go and clean until it begins getting a bit difficult to do paperwork and clean then get a part timer in to cover my shifts
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You wil not save money how much do you spend per month that has VAT .
If you cannot increase all your customers by 20% it will cost you.
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even you yourself have admitted that your making very little profit.you dont want to actually do any window cleaning and leave it all to one lad(who WILL GET FED UP eventually) and then you want to go VAT registered!!honestly richy i think you need a check up from the neck up!!! ;D ;D ;D
you over complicate this business to a terrifying degree at times!!keep it simple! ;) ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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I would not expect a employee to do a amount of work that i couldn't do my self.
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I think what Helen is saying is that your guy can't hit that figure - there's not enough days in the week.
£300 a day (doubtful) five days a week for 46 weeks doesn't come within ten grand of your figures. ???
Ritchy do you have six fingers or something? Invest in a new calculator.
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I would not expect a employee to do a amount of work that i couldn't do my self.
The air must be different up north. Down here we just get on with it withought coming accross as drama queens or dreamers.
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i dont know why everyone doubt my employee doing these figures my work is priced quite well, its now well organised, rang the night before and my employee is a fit lad he really enjoys his work as he likes to just be outdoors, hes quite happy earning what he does as his missus has a decent job so his is a secondary wage.
hes got 24 jobs on today down by mums £331 on the sheet
hes usually out by 8.10am and back between 3-4 pm he doesnt smoke and doesnt sit around in the van between jobs as he likes to smash the work and get bk early and go as he gets a day rate.
i dont get many complaints at all about his work, a lot of you forget my work was 8 weekly so i priced higher than most then dropped to 6 weekly so yes i do have decent prices for up north bar the few we picked up last summer
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I think what Helen is saying is that your guy can't hit that figure - there's not enough days in the week.
£300 a day (doubtful) five days a week for 46 weeks doesn't come within ten grand of your figures. ???
Ritchy do you have six fingers or something? Invest in a new calculator.
:)
If he doesn't go sick and just has holidays he will need to pull in £1700 plus per week. I don't doubt that some days he can hit £300, but every days work? That is why I said about getting a part timer to work with him now while you build up and while he is hitting these figures, then you have cover when he goes on holiday etc etc and you can keep building. Get the footings right now and do it right this time :)
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helen andy does 300 quite easily ok its not a walk in the park but he does it comfortably, i think its a bit premature for a part timer just yet but that is what il plan in couple of months time i think i can cope with any extra work load for now as well as leaflet dropping etc
i think part timer is best i wouldnt rush into getting full timer again as it puts too much pressure on the business
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Couldn't you be the part timer?
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Couldn't you be the part timer?
I think he already is the employee works harder than richy ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yeah thats what im planning to do il be part time cleaning just cant do anything at moment as waiting on leaflets to be printed and doing me head in
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There is a God and we have proof . Mr Wilts is living proof that he has got as far as he has in business with a meager understanding of business is just a miracle.Time will catch up with things sooner or later.
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Everything you say is a giant smokescreen hiding the real truth.
You are perhaps one of the most deluded people i have come across and i find myself becoming more and more incensed by the drivel you keep coming out with.
Its like listening to a horrible spoilt child.
I`m now going to do myself a massive favour and ignore any thread with your name on it or in it.
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Ritchy.....you better make some serious plans mate because i predict that your employee will part company with you in the near future,£300 per day on residential work and you think you will keep him on your books,not a chance in hell mate will he stay with you if he has got half an ounce of sense......
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If Richy`s employee is taking £300 per day,it`s got to be Groupon
Deals,it`s the only system that provides that amount of work in quantity.
Richy will be doing the retail lower paid/takings stuff like high end
Residential etc. 8)
Although I personally think that he`s working longer hours than Richy
Say`s.
Richy`s just telling us those hours to make us feel better and not be jealous. ::)
Lewis Doubtfire
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it seems to me that richy has the possibilities to earn serious dough . i cant understand why he's not doing the work
himself . all these excuses about doing this and the other but we all have to do that as well as working on the glass .
........trying to run before he can walk springs to mind
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He is a bull pooer or a just thick and just to lazy to work.But time will sort it all out as he is ice skating in a razor blade.
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jesus christ i only said i was thinkin of going vat registered get a load of abuse again, ok il pocket all the cash like most on here prob do ands stay under the vat and have 8 lads working for me.
il cap my business off under the vat then coz im a bullpoopter who makes things up and keep you all happy not allowed bit of ambition on here for fear of upsetting all the one man bands who struggle to earn 150 a day with the 3 bed semis priced at 5-6quids.
im obv stronger in other areas of my business than others are in theres coz a lot on here seem to be jealous that i can have an employee earning me 300 a day most days coz i have well priced fairly compact work
im quite happy for any local guys to come and check the daily logs dating back to january to see how much he does and the hours hes logged down for everyday to prove im not chatting out me arse iv got more of a life than to come on here and lie.
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jesus christ i only said i was thinkin of going vat registered get a load of abuse again, ok il pocket all the cash like most on here prob do ands stay under the vat and have 8 lads working for me.
il cap my business off under the vat then coz im a bullpoopter who makes things up and keep you all happy not allowed bit of ambition on here for fear of upsetting all the one man bands who struggle to earn 150 a day with the 3 bed semis priced at 5-6quids.
im obv stronger in other areas of my business than others are in theres coz a lot on here seem to be jealous that i can have an employee earning me 300 a day most days coz i have well priced fairly compact work
im quite happy for any local guys to come and check the daily logs dating back to january to see how much he does and the hours hes logged down for everyday to prove im not chatting out me arse iv got more of a life than to come on here and lie.
Good on ya Ritchy for running your business how you see fit and having ambition.
What i was saying was that your lad earning £300 per day,although this sounds great at the moment,will IMO turn his back on you eventually.I dont know what you are paying him...lets say £150 per day...do you think that he will not at some stage think "fluck this for a laugh,i am out earning all this money while the boss does a bit here and there"....c'mon Ritchy even you must be able to see where it will probably go tits up.
Now if you were out on the tools with him every day earning £400 and splitting it then i would say that would be a good way to keep your employee happy,but sorry mate by sending him out day after day to mostly do your companies turnover will eventually become demoralising to him....
By the way i am not disillusioned enough to think that wc's who earn £150 are not happy with their lot,the way you are going you may be at some stage joining them..... :)
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you really would split earning with a single employee DW :o
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jesus christ i only said i was thinkin of going vat registered get a load of abuse again, ok il pocket all the cash like most on here prob do ands stay under the vat and have 8 lads working for me.
il cap my business off under the vat then coz im a bullpoopter who makes things up and keep you all happy not allowed bit of ambition on here for fear of upsetting all the one man bands who struggle to earn 150 a day with the 3 bed semis priced at 5-6quids.
im obv stronger in other areas of my business than others are in theres coz a lot on here seem to be jealous that i can have an employee earning me 300 a day most days coz i have well priced fairly compact work
im quite happy for any local guys to come and check the daily logs dating back to january to see how much he does and the hours hes logged down for everyday to prove im not chatting out me arse iv got more of a life than to come on here and lie.
Wake up, it's time for work ;D ;D ;D
You did say you had decided to register, not was thinking about it, but it doesn't matter :)
You do what you want, most of us can advise as we have been there, got the t-shirt, read the book etc etc, but you will only learn and go forward by your own mistakes and findings. Things should be picking up for new custies from this time of year, so don't miss out on getting some good work in........(still think you should get a part timer in :P)
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you really would split earning with a single employee DW :o
No not 50/50....
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i remember the other month richy went out busting a gut himself and made £163.so i can see how he wants someone else to do the work!! ;D ;D ;D
richy its not gonna work out mate.if you think you can leave a lad to bust a gut every day while you just help out every now and then then i think your seriously deluded.i also doubt the fact that he can earn £300 a day every day.
standards and quality of cleaning will drop if your sending him out everyday on his own and who s to say he wont take these customers off you and go it alone?after all he s the one who ll be doing all the cleaning and providing a "face" to the business.
i see more posts from richy over the next few months along the lines of"losing customers left,right and centre!","got so many overheads im not making enough money and missus giving me grief!""helpers left and took half my work!!"
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I think Ritchys posts should be an inspiration to all. Here we have a guy in the position of earning a fabulous income and securing his future. All obtained with the business sense of what? ................. a headless chicken! If Ritchy can reach the point of not even leaving the chair all day and still turn over VAT figures then he's done very well.
Imagine what a guy can do with a bit more sense ;D
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good post daz,richy you have all your eggs in on basket and i dont understand what you do all day running a window cleaning business with 1 man working doesnt take 10 mins sort out,so why not get out and work yourself,your employee must be a idiot to go out earn you £300 a day while you sit on your arse and you cant even see it will crumble around you,
anyway go vat reg and stay as you are i want see what happens later this year or maybe next year
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Richy the one man bands who struggle to earn £150 a day have earnt more than you last year, due to you over complicating things..think about it. your about to do it again mate. all the best.
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I think Ritchys posts should be an inspiration to all. Here we have a guy in the position of earning a fabulous income and securing his future. All obtained with the business sense of what? ................. a headless chicken! If Ritchy can reach the point of not even leaving the chair all day and still turn over VAT figures then he's done very well.
Imagine what a guy can do with a bit more sense ;D
fair play to the guy I like Richys post the guy wears his heart on his sleeve.
At least he trys to do things, which is a whole lot more than most people (thats not aimed at anyone by the way) just an observation
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He has the whole day to plan his threads while we all work our butts of.The man has just got to much time to do nothing and think up all the rubbish we read. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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He has the whole day to plan his threads while we all work our butts of.The man has just got to much time to do nothing and think up all the rubbish we read. ;D ;D ;D ;D
jealousy is an ugly thing ;D
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i sell a lot of banjos in wilts ;D
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im planning to go out working again as it is my employee wants full tim work iv now organised all my work so we can hit good figures each day with each day now split into smaller areas, im out working today as my employee gets married tmoz im prob gna hit 280 as few have said not today i didnt go out till 10 and will finish at 5-6ish im just doing a backwash on the ro system.
the plan for over the summer get every day of andys 30 days upto 300 a day then get my second van out working in nice organised days of compact work doing 150 a day then try and build up to 300 a day again
i know last year was a complete mess and my head was everywhere as i was trying to structure the business around keeping other happy but i know in my mind now what i have to do and where to take the business, im not trying to be greedy and going to take it slow and steady for the next year and i will take on a part timer when i see fit
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i remember the other month richy went out busting a gut himself and made £163.so i can see how he wants someone else to do the work!! ;D ;D ;D
richy its not gonna work out mate.if you think you can leave a lad to bust a gut every day while you just help out every now and then then i think your seriously deluded.i also doubt the fact that he can earn £300 a day every day.
standards and quality of cleaning will drop if your sending him out everyday on his own and who s to say he wont take these customers off you and go it alone?after all he s the one who ll be doing all the cleaning and providing a "face" to the business.
i see more posts from richy over the next few months along the lines of"losing customers left,right and centre!","got so many overheads im not making enough money and missus giving me grief!""helpers left and took half my work!!"
well put :D
Dont want to knock the guys enthusiasm, but the employee is gonna get some ideas about going it alone.Why on earth would you work your socks off like that if you knew your boss was doing eff all all day long.
I remember a quote on here not so long ago about 'leading from the front'.This should be every employers mantra.
I would never expect my team to do anything that I haven't or wouldn't do myself.
We used to reserve a very special treatment for this type of workshy attitude for people when I was in the forces! >:(
Richy,its your business but you got to do some leg work because going by this and previous threads, you seem to be chasing your tail most days and you have ideas bouncing around all over the place.Its window cleaning,its a no brainer- you got the vans,unit and a good memeber of staff.Please dont let me read on here that you let it all go down the swanny.Time to buck your ideas up
Here endeth the sermon according to Roy :)
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cheers roy
thats what im trying to say iv got everything ready to go, nice leaflet campaign followed by some canvassing of nice areas where we have dropped and should soon have that 2nd van out in no time
ive learnt a few good lessons last year and hopefully itll make me a better business operator in the future
its a learning curve and ive had my fair share of learning but things happen for reasons and il use them to my advantage now
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thats good to hear Richy, now its time to put all the pieces into ACTION.Set yourself some realistic goals for the next three months only and make sure they are achievable.Sorry for the pep talk but my missus calls me the Terminator because Im relentless at getting my business where I want it to be(she calls me alot of other things too)perhaps you should be the same?
Good luck and get out there working before there's no more work!!!
Roy
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THERE POPPING UP EVERYWHERE ROUND ARES NOW WATERFED POLERS I WAS THE FIRST IN MY TOWN
ITS AN EYE OPENER AS IM NOT WILLING TO LOWER MY PRICES SOME ARE GING IN AT 3 BED SEMIS WITH CONNYS FOR 7.50 ROUND HERE NOW A MONTH
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He has the whole day to plan his threads while we all work our butts of.The man has just got to much time to do nothing and think up all the rubbish we read. ;D ;D ;D ;D
jealousy is an ugly thing ;D
Not jealous at all.If you knew me you would know I am a supporter of people doing well. I just find it boring reading some one`s business planning every move on a forum.I would like to remind WW its not help being requested its one crazy thought after another. ::) ::) ::)
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its a forum to bounce ideas off other people in the industry
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No Mate its a mad house when you write on the forum. ;D ;D
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No Mate its a mad house when you write on the forum. ;D ;D
;D agree, although it will be good in a years time to read rights posts and see that he's done well "hopefully" so in fact cod help people