Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: K.O. Glanville on March 04, 2012, 12:28:54 pm
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Shorty
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Have to agree love mine. Use the surround Encap great results ;D
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I love my money maker, I mean Cimex
I been saying this for years , and got to agree surround does the job :)
Geoff
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what amazes me is........ in that photo nothing has been removed from the carpet....... so why does it look clean??????? where has the dirt gone???
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I used to clean with one of those 25 years ago although the shampoo is better now but what goes around it'll be hosepipes and a wicker beater next!
Nice job shorty well done.
Shaun
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Franklins fashion Shaun? Like what you used as a lad there? ;D
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They beat us with wicker there ;D
Shaun
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or a good thrashing through the machine!
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If you ever got the chance to go around the factory the Davar machine was a very impressive piece of kit also the belts lifting the carpets to the top floor were handy if you wanted to save your legs running up the stair.
Shaun
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What chemical are you using with your Cimex?
Simon
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Who are You asking Simon?
I have used various encap solitions some im happy other not so happy,however i have found surround does the job, still hoping somebody will send me some realsit mind, would love to give it a go , I have a chinese restraunt to clean on monday in Leeds, reguler customer and they insit on me using my cimex, I will try and remember to take some pics using the surround and cimex.
Geoff
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Geoff and/or Shorty
Do you need to vac before using the cimex? And i asume you defo need to vac after? how long after going over the carpet do you need to wait before vaccing?
Also, is it only mainly used on low profile carpet? i.e. tile etc
Will it also work on a greasy chinese resturant carpet?
20 questions ;D
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Yes and what machinery do you use for stairs and edges?
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Geoff and/or Shorty
Do you need to vac before using the cimex? And i asume you defo need to vac after? how long after going over the carpet do you need to wait before vaccing?
Also, is it only mainly used on low profile carpet? i.e. tile etc
Will it also work on a greasy chinese resturant carpet?
20 questions ;D
It can be used on any carpet although brushes may be better than pads on certain types,
You can use chemspec enzyme shampoo for a restaurant.
I wouldnt bother with a post vac. A decent per vac is sufficient. Nobody will know the difference.
For edges etc a white floor pad and octopus edging tool is all you need.
A variable speed angle grinder with 8" pad holder and pad works on stairs.
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Think there is one of these on ebay, was £650 last time I looked.
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Is £1500 + vat a good price for a new Cimex CR 48?
Do you find the Cimex useful for hard floors?
mark
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I will attemt to answer some of the questions,
Pre vac always, post vac well this is infact an essential part of the procedure when encapping, how ever I do always ensure the customer knows the importance of the post vac stressing that the areas must be vacced the following day, and as a high percentage of my encap work is larger commercail jobs they tend to have in house cleaners who will do this task, I have yet to have a customer object to this although I dare say some c/c may say i should revisit to do this myself, Why ?I ask myself when most premisis will be havignthe carpets vaccumed as a matter of course .
Edges of carpeting as you will be aware do not have the amount of soiling as the rest of the carpet ,unless every body is walking with their feet along the eges constanly, and the brushes will infact create a covering up to edges if you are a skilled operator of the cimex ;D as for corners ::) a good hand brush dipped in so;ution and a vigoures scrub does the trick, and stairs well I have even used this method succesfuly.
Greasy chinese carpet , never been a problem I clean 2 of their restraunts every 3 months , and once a year i extract with t/m and believe it or not , they still want me to encap instead of h/w/e .
Geoff
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What price do you charge Geoff per metre ?
Shaun
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I know what you mean Geoff. We do a Uni halls of residence twice a year and they moan if the big yellow machine isn't used. Suits us it covers the are in a quarter of the time with the same result.
With regard to the post vac. I should have mentioned we include it in the quote as a separate item giving them the choice to pay us or get it done in house.
Nobody has ever paid our price for post vacuum or argued it should be part of the process as we take the time to educate them about the chemistry employed.
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You know what have been experimenting with encap with a slow speed rotary and a shampoo brush and have been stunned by the results, am seriously considering purchasing a new Cimex unless I can find a decent used machine.
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h i SHAUN,
Depending on the areas unvolved and the amont of office furniture from £1 .00 sq mtre.
The beauty of the cimex compared to a rotery, 3 indepedant brushes/pads and no electic cables to worry about getting caught in machinw.
geoff
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You know what have been experimenting with encap with a slow speed rotary and a shampoo brush and have been stunned by the results, am seriously considering purchasing a new Cimex unless I can find a decent used machine.
Ex-Demo suit you?
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Could be drop me a line mark@shannoncleaning.co.uk if you know of one.
Thanks Mark
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;Dcleaning systems uk sell them you also get good back up with them , i think its on of the best cleaning systems around , massive floor areas the bigger the better wish i had found it before getting my truck mount , it was good but me personly think this is abetter system , we use craftex stuff , use to use jonhston and johnston dry foam but they priced them self out off the market ,me and my mate have 70yrs carpetcleaning under our belts and both agree this is the dogs balls
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Topic Summary
Posted by: kerrpmiddleton Posted on: Today at 08:40:50 am
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;Dcleaning systems uk sell them you also get good back up with them , i think its on of the best cleaning systems around , massive floor areas the bigger the better wish i had found it before getting my truck mount , it was good but me personly think this is abetter system , we use craftex stuff , use to use jonhston and johnston dry foam but they priced them self out off the market ,me and my mate have 70yrs carpetcleaning under our belts and both agree this is the dogs balls
I didnt realise Craftex had an encap product , please enlighten me ,
Geoff
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talking of cimex,
Does any body happen to know where i can get the samll disk inserts that fit into the middlle of the brushes and pads , I believe they are to distrubute the solution more evenly.
geoff
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Has anyone tested a Cimex against a Chemspec Chemstractor or a rotary machine with a red/white pad using en-cap chemicals to see any advantages over the different machines.
David
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I have had them all.
The Chemstractor isnt great unfortunately I had the first one in the country but its vacuum system worked a little too well for low profile stuff making it difficult to manouver. On longer pile stuff it was good but the Cimex was faster. A shame as on paper it looks great.
A decent 40kg+ low speed rotary is great for ducking in and out of desks so in an open plan office is great.
The Cimex just flies through corridors and open spaces and its straight line action means less operator fatigue than a swing machine.
If you were buying your first machine for commercial I would recommend a 17" low speed rotary as it is the most versatile unless you have corridors, conference rooms etc etc.
Once you have the work add in a Cimex machine. Unfortunately there isnt a good OP machine available in the UK for the time being.
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I would like to post a pic of some brushes I got with my cimex but uploader full
Is there another way to get a pic up?
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use i or photobucket to upload then take copy the url highlight it and click the little picture frame in the WYSIWYG.
I think it will let you copy from the site in the right format for posting straight in. should have [img] at start and end
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strange, I cant right the word i m a g e s h a c k without it getting edited to just i.
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BUT wheres the dirt go.
I remember Mike H doing a test on this and going back to vacuum the next day and reported nothing in the bag after a post vac??????????????
Mark
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........ and i remember Mike testing a cimex against a df and bonnet at a school i helped him with, a white towel over areas and no dirt where cumex was used.
Of vourse, this was a few years ago, his memory may not be what it was ;D
geoff
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........ and i remember Mike testing a cimex against a df and bonnet at a school i helped him with, a white towel over areas and no dirt where cumex was used.
Of vourse, this was a few years ago, his memory may not be what it was ;D
geoff
I remember Geoff going on about the Cimex years ago, the post you did earlier is pretty much verbatim. God knows why I didn't get one then. Maybe it's finally sunk in. :-[
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Have you picked one up yet Wynne?
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Have you picked one up yet Wynne?
The Taffy Del boy is at it again!!!!
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Have you picked one up yet Wynne?
The Taffy Del boy is at it again!!!!
;D ;D ;D
This time next year, Rodney!
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Cushty ;D
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Quote from: gwrightson on Yesterday at 03:41:20 am
........ and i remember Mike testing a cimex against a df and bonnet at a school i helped him with, a white towel over areas and no dirt where cumex was used.
Of vourse, this was a few years ago, his memory may not be what it was
geoff
I remember Geoff going on about the Cimex years ago, the post you did earlier is pretty much verbatim. God knows why I didn't get one then. Maybe it's finally sunk in.
It would appear your memory still ok though Wynne ;D, and yes i did go on about it years ago always been impressed
Geoff
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Interestingly I typed cimex into google images and was surprised by what I saw ??? :P
Dont think I'll get one :o
It was interesting to me anyhow ;D
Steve
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Haven't checked, but probably a Cimex Lecterus or some such name. ??
I hope I don't Bug you with this. ;)
Shorty.