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Title: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 01, 2012, 07:13:52 pm
well another gone that couldnt handle the pressure ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Lee GLS on March 01, 2012, 07:16:29 pm
I reckon he got to jealous of the many topics about how good gardiners products are and decided to end it all  ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Steve_c on March 01, 2012, 07:20:16 pm
Who is he ?
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 01, 2012, 07:22:23 pm
I reckon he got to jealous of the many topics about how good gardiners products are and decided to end it all  ;D
did you push hime lee ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Lee GLS on March 01, 2012, 07:24:18 pm
I reckon he got to jealous of the many topics about how good gardiners products are and decided to end it all  ;D
did you push hime lee ;D


 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: paul saunders on March 01, 2012, 07:58:00 pm
He will be sorely missed ;D ;D

Craig who ?????????? ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: richard jagger on March 01, 2012, 08:25:51 pm
I questioned his product development , think it got him upset. He will grow up and come back. :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Steve_c on March 01, 2012, 08:38:34 pm
Who is he?
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Lee GLS on March 01, 2012, 08:42:24 pm
Who is he?


The bloke owns polar brite
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Steve_c on March 01, 2012, 09:13:04 pm
Thanks. Doh!
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 01, 2012, 09:50:53 pm
LEEGLS I HOPE YOUR HAPPY!  :-X
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on March 01, 2012, 09:53:15 pm
Haha, yes I can imagine he is very jealous of you all in your crappy beat up vans and mondeos BS,ing your way through life  ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Lee GLS on March 01, 2012, 10:00:15 pm
LEEGLS I HOPE YOUR HAPPY!  :-X


 ;D ;D :-X
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 01, 2012, 10:42:00 pm
Haha, yes I can imagine he is very jealous of you all in your crappy beat up vans and mondeos BS,ing your way through life  ;D

There's a trace of bitterness in many of your posts New LT ... you don't seem a very happy person. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Jimmy Jon on March 01, 2012, 10:44:21 pm
what did you say Lee, Have you got a link to the thread?  ???
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Londoner on March 02, 2012, 07:16:28 am
Haha, yes I can imagine he is very jealous of you all in your crappy beat up vans and mondeos BS,ing your way through life  ;D

There's a trace of bitterness in many of your posts New LT ... you don't seem a very happy person. Just sayin'.

 he's a troll Just ignore him, he will be off to his day centre soon.  Always look at the time tags on his silly posts, you will soon see a pattern emerging. 9 out of ten are late evening. I think we all know what we have here.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on March 02, 2012, 07:39:42 am
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he's a troll Just ignore him, he will be off to his day centre soon.

Haha the moron makes an appearance. Hows the guiness for breakfast? ;D

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There's a trace of bitterness in many of your posts New LT ... you don't seem a very happy person. Just sayin'.

Spoken like a true jw ;)No reason for bitterness here matey, absolutely no need for any.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Londoner on March 02, 2012, 08:15:57 am
Point proven, about being a troll.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: SherwoodCleaningSe on March 02, 2012, 09:16:31 am
It's ashame that a supplier has left the forum, but in this case it might be in his best interests. I was interested I his gutter vac systems, but when I read his posts about about Gardiner poles and also reckoning that the only reason people purchased from them was because of a shared faith it made me question his business ethics and I looked elsewhere. What a supplier says on a forum can have a far greater impact for the good or bad on their business than a window cleaner. It's ashame he's gone though because other than having digs at Alex G, when not having digs he tried to help out with good advice.

Simon.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Paul Coleman on March 02, 2012, 10:10:41 am
It's ashame that a supplier has left the forum, but in this case it might be in his best interests. I was interested I his gutter vac systems, but when I read his posts about about Gardiner poles and also reckoning that the only reason people purchased from them was because of a shared faith it made me question his business ethics and I looked elsewhere. What a supplier says on a forum can have a far greater impact for the good or bad on their business than a window cleaner. It's ashame he's gone though because other than having digs at Alex G, when not having digs he tried to help out with good advice.

Simon.

Shared faith is nothing to do with it.  The products and service are top notch.  On the odd occasions when they aren't, it gets put right.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2012, 01:51:35 pm
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he's a troll Just ignore him, he will be off to his day centre soon.

Haha the moron makes an appearance. Hows the guiness for breakfast? ;D

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There's a trace of bitterness in many of your posts New LT ... you don't seem a very happy person. Just sayin'.

Spoken like a true jw ;)No reason for bitterness here matey, absolutely no need for any.

Not sure where being a "jw" comes into it New LT but generally I believe the old adage of "out of the hearts abundance the mouth speaks" and what you speak on here shows an unhappy person inside.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2012, 01:59:56 pm
It's ashame that a supplier has left the forum, but in this case it might be in his best interests. I was interested I his gutter vac systems, but when I read his posts about about Gardiner poles and also reckoning that the only reason people purchased from them was because of a shared faith  it made me question his business ethics and I looked elsewhere. What a supplier says on a forum can have a far greater impact for the good or bad on their business than a window cleaner. It's ashame he's gone though because other than having digs at Alex G, when not having digs he tried to help out with good advice.

Simon.



I didn't know that Craig was as overt as to say that (bit in red) - I notice that he and New LT are among the first on here to criticise jw's - I just guess that is down to their bad experiences.

I suppose the posts have been deleted - but I can only speak for myself and say hand on heart that when I bought my first SLX I didn't have a clue about Alex Gardiner's religious beliefs. Never met him.

It's nice to know that a jw is highly spoken of in business terms but it doesn't influence me one jot as to whether I place orders with Gardiners. It's all down to quality product and of customer service. If they goof up and it affects me then I'll say.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: wfp master on March 02, 2012, 02:30:31 pm
Who is he ?
hes a very expensive supplier.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Lee GLS on March 02, 2012, 02:31:20 pm
Craig made a few snipes about people only buying from him because of their religious beliefs, he must think that we are all brain washed into being jw's and therefore brainwashed into buying gardiner products. He was very bitter towards Gardiners but always denied it. His facelift pole advert on his site sums him up really, has to resort to petty snipes.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: D woods on March 02, 2012, 02:33:38 pm
For what its worth I spoke to Craig today and the reason he deleted hes account was beacuse the froum owners wanted to charge him £300 for having a link to his web site for 12 months
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: wfp master on March 02, 2012, 02:36:33 pm
For what its worth I spoke to Craig today and the reason he deleted hes account was beacuse the froum owners wanted to charge him £300 for having a link to his web site for 12 months
well other suppliers have to pay to advertise so its only fair.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on March 02, 2012, 03:13:15 pm
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Not sure where being a "jw" comes into it New LT but generally I believe the old adage of "out of the hearts abundance the mouth speaks" and what you speak on here shows an unhappy person inside.

What utter rubbish, you have never met me. ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Forum Admin on March 02, 2012, 03:22:58 pm
Hi Guys,

That's correct other suppliers do have to pay for the privilege of having their signature link, it's only fair that all are treated the same.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: D woods on March 02, 2012, 03:55:41 pm
Are there any other suppliers left? I think they have all been driven off, all apart from you know who, that is..
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Tom White on March 02, 2012, 04:27:11 pm
Are there any other suppliers left? I think they have all been driven off, all apart from you know who, that is..

Aquadapters.

I think to be successful as a supplier on this forum you need to be helpful, have good forum social skills, good written communication skills and be able to take criticism well.  

I don't think Craig did well in many of these departments; but that's just my opinion.

Gardeners, although not an official forum advertiser do well because they have an excellent product (their poles) - and the members do the advertising for him - and Alex is a helpful guy.  He can take criticism well also and can 'argue' a point politely and explain himself well.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 02, 2012, 04:52:10 pm
For what its worth I spoke to Craig today and the reason he deleted hes account was beacuse the froum owners wanted to charge him £300 for having a link to his web site for 12 months

Why not just delete the signature link?

No, I reckon he has spat his dummy or even more likely has thought better of his recent spats, and given himself a cooling off period. The most recent row was his fault bi proxy because of his silly snipes at Gardiners.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: D woods on March 02, 2012, 04:55:53 pm
We have just recieved an email asking for £300, so I think that will be the end for me as well.....
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 02, 2012, 05:04:15 pm
We have just recieved an email asking for £300, so I think that will be the end for me as well.....

why not just delete your signature?

Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 02, 2012, 06:33:55 pm
Hi Guys,

That's correct other suppliers do have to pay for the privilege of having their signature link, it's only fair that all are treated the same.

Thanks.
so what about the other on here who offer there services and product,they are saling them self,a couple of canvasser spring to mind ;)
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2012, 06:36:24 pm
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Not sure where being a "jw" comes into it New LT but generally I believe the old adage of "out of the hearts abundance the mouth speaks" and what you speak on here  shows an unhappy person inside.

What utter rubbish, you have never met me. ;D

Well Lee, if you read my post you would see I said "... what you speak on here ... " - just go back and read your posts - they seem to contain many snipes, digs and a mocking attitude.

I always think the best way of proving you have found a better way in life is to lead a better life. If you do then your natural contentment will shine through.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Frankybadboy on March 02, 2012, 06:37:52 pm
gold


i love you baby ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: AuRavelling79 on March 02, 2012, 06:39:55 pm
gold


i love you baby ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-*

Back at you Franky!  :-*  ;D
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: G Griffin on March 02, 2012, 07:04:00 pm
Haha, yes I can imagine he is very jealous of you all in your crappy beat up vans and mondeos BS,ing your way through life  ;D

I think he meant jealous of Gardiners, not low life window cleaners like us.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: davids3511 on March 02, 2012, 08:31:57 pm
Personally I have no idea what religion Alex is nor do i care. He supplies fab equipment, innovates all the time and his customer service is second to none. That's all I care about.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: mark dew on March 02, 2012, 08:36:50 pm
We have just recieved an email asking for £300, so I think that will be the end for me as well.....

D woods has gone now. Fairs fair in business i suppose, but he will be a big loss to this forum.
He (and a few others too) have fairly unique business information to offer which can't just be replaced.
It takes time to acquire his kind of experience which he shared freely on here for years.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: stuart mc on March 02, 2012, 08:40:54 pm
We have just recieved an email asking for £300, so I think that will be the end for me as well.....

D woods has gone now. Fairs fair in business i suppose, but he will be a big loss to this forum.
He (and a few others too) have fairly unique business information to offer which can't just be replaced.
It takes time to acquire his kind of experience which he shared freely on here for years.

really what did he supply? I am looking at the name and I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: G Griffin on March 02, 2012, 08:45:29 pm
Personally I have no idea what religion Alex is nor do i care. He supplies fab equipment, innovates all the time and his customer service is second to none. That's all I care about.

Amen to that.......oops, sorry  :-[.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 02, 2012, 08:48:48 pm
We have just recieved an email asking for £300, so I think that will be the end for me as well.....

D woods has gone now. Fairs fair in business i suppose, but he will be a big loss to this forum.
He (and a few others too) have fairly unique business information to offer which can't just be replaced.
It takes time to acquire his kind of experience which he shared freely on here for years.

I actually disagree with this Mark, He (not a pop at him,any supplier)might of been able to tell you how much a given product was or its spec but other than that they are just window cleaners like us. and as Richy Wilts found out if you were after any info about being a supplier which would of been his area of expertise you wouldnt of got any info at all. he didnt have to come off here all he had to do was delete his link but they have both ducked out...no great loss at all.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: www.com on March 02, 2012, 09:09:02 pm
I actually disagree with this Mark, He (not a pop at him,any supplier)might of been able to tell you how much a given product was or its spec but other than that they are just window cleaners like us. and as Richy Wilts found out if you were after any info about being a supplier which would of been his area of expertise you wouldnt of got any info at all. he didnt have to come off here all he had to do was delete his link but they have both ducked out...no great loss at all.

The thing is D Woods has over 30 guys working for him and is by far the biggest window cleaning company on here. If he wasn't a janitorial supplier also he probably would never come on here as no big guys do, they have far better things to do!
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on March 02, 2012, 09:16:02 pm
I actually disagree with this Mark, He (not a pop at him,any supplier)might of been able to tell you how much a given product was or its spec but other than that they are just window cleaners like us. and as Richy Wilts found out if you were after any info about being a supplier which would of been his area of expertise you wouldnt of got any info at all. he didnt have to come off here all he had to do was delete his link but they have both ducked out...no great loss at all.

The thing is D Woods has over 30 guys working for him and is by far the biggest window cleaning company on here. If he wasn't a janitorial supplier also he probably would never come on here as no big guys do, they have far better things to do!

ok maybe got that one wrong then  :-[ BUT THEY HAVE BOTH THROWN THEIR TOYS OUT OF THE PRAM=FACT
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: KS Cleaning on March 02, 2012, 10:00:31 pm
I actually disagree with this Mark, He (not a pop at him,any supplier)might of been able to tell you how much a given product was or its spec but other than that they are just window cleaners like us. and as Richy Wilts found out if you were after any info about being a supplier which would of been his area of expertise you wouldnt of got any info at all. he didnt have to come off here all he had to do was delete his link but they have both ducked out...no great loss at all.

The thing is D Woods has over 30 guys working for him and is by far the biggest window cleaning company on here. If he wasn't a janitorial supplier also he probably would never come on here as no big guys do, they have far better things to do!
He must be quite a modest chap then,fair play to him,there are a few on here that use every opportunity to brag about their business.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Window Washers on March 02, 2012, 10:06:06 pm
I actually disagree with this Mark, He (not a pop at him,any supplier)might of been able to tell you how much a given product was or its spec but other than that they are just window cleaners like us. and as Richy Wilts found out if you were after any info about being a supplier which would of been his area of expertise you wouldnt of got any info at all. he didnt have to come off here all he had to do was delete his link but they have both ducked out...no great loss at all.

The thing is D Woods has over 30 guys working for him and is by far the biggest window cleaning company on here. If he wasn't a janitorial supplier also he probably would never come on here as no big guys do, they have far better things to do!
He must be quite a modest chap then,fair play to him,there are a few on here that use every opportunity to brag about their business.
I would have agreed with you apart from he arrived/landed at windex carpark in his Learjet
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: Londoner on March 02, 2012, 10:17:29 pm
I'm not a JW, couldn't be further from one. But it wouldn't make any difference to my buying decisions and I can't believe it would for many others.

What I do think though is that any mention of religion should not be allowed on a window cleaning forum, not even obliquely and should be deleted automatically and routinely. Lets talk about window cleaning and window cleaning alone. Moderators, get a grip on this and end it.

  
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: stuart mc on March 02, 2012, 10:27:52 pm
I'm not a JW, couldn't be further from one. But it wouldn't make any difference to my buying decisions and I can't believe it would for many others.

What I do think though is that any mention of religion should not be allowed on a window cleaning forum, not even obliquely and should be deleted automatically and routinely. Lets talk about window cleaning and window cleaning alone.

 

vince New LT is a opinionated twit(that was polite) :D I don't always agree with you or anyone else but time and time again he is just rude and a nasty FOOL(he is fond of calling people that) and he isn't a window cleaner anymore he works in IT and travels the world and wished he had jacked it ten years before he did, so why he is on here is beyond me.

I find it ironic, my last job in the forces was IT instructor and I travelled the world and jacked that in to return to window cleaning ;D and now I am happier and calmer than I ever was
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: G Griffin on March 02, 2012, 10:34:00 pm
I'm not a JW, couldn't be further from one. But it wouldn't make any difference to my buying decisions and I can't believe it would for many others.

What I do think though is that any mention of religion should not be allowed on a window cleaning forum, not even obliquely and should be deleted automatically and routinely. Lets talk about window cleaning and window cleaning alone. Moderators, get a grip on this and end it.

  

Hallelujah! Oops, sorry  :-[.
It won't happen again; I swear to God.
Title: Re: Craig Trevain what happened
Post by: stuart mc on March 02, 2012, 10:36:12 pm
I'm not a JW, couldn't be further from one. But it wouldn't make any difference to my buying decisions and I can't believe it would for many others.

What I do think though is that any mention of religion should not be allowed on a window cleaning forum, not even obliquely and should be deleted automatically and routinely. Lets talk about window cleaning and window cleaning alone. Moderators, get a grip on this and end it.

  

Hallelujah! Oops, sorry  :-[.
It won't happen again; I swear to God.

what god ;D twice you have tried that joke ;)