Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: harunh on February 26, 2012, 08:32:59 pm
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Im going to spending this much just on starting up my business.
I think by doing this i can make this money back easily:) Ill be having a trolley system with a 300/400 pound gardiners pole :)
I will be going canvassing nearly every day :) I can canvass all day as i got a lot of time on my hands :D Also i will not give up until i pick up 1 new customer each day. That is an acceptable target for me :D but i will be aiming for 2,3 customers per day. I believe i can pick customers easily through canvassing :)
I will go canvassing at the times between 5-7. I will post at least 1,000 business cards through letter boxes in 1 week :) Thats over 100 in 1 day :) i believe thats 10 customers out 1,000 people right ? :D I will not be getting flyers.... i just prefer the business cards... its got everything they need to know on it anyway... and flyers tend to go in the bin with the newspapers people chuck away... with business cards someone might just slip it in to their pocket... and leave it lying around... thats the way i see it :D
My aim is to get 100 customers within 3 months ! Then go for the 200 then 300 then 400 ! :)
I will be spending the 6/7 K on a astra van.... thats going to set me back around 3/4 k :) I dont want to get a cheap one... cos most of them are high mileage ... and i always like to buy cars with low mileage... and that are pretty new.. and got some service history on :) Atleast i can rely on it :)
I will be getting a gardiners pole thats going to cost me about 300 or 400 quid thats 40ft and a trolley system with a built in di filter. People build their own.... but im no good with stuff like this :( But im going to look in to this so i can save a few hundred pounds
I will be getting my vehicle put up with all the company logos ect.... and I will be buying myself a hoody with my company name and a website :) ( i believe this is good for business and makes you look more professional)
I will be spending about 100 pound on a phone number :) Thats easy to remember something such as......
And ill just buy 10,000 business cards for about 120-150 quid :) cos i will shot them about a lot :)
07581 111 000 - that will be on my van.. which will look good lol
You might all think i am crazy but.... this is what is going to make the business tick :)
Also i have to work hard and go out every day and give 100% customer satisfaction
I will be starting up in april time sometime :) just planning everything out ect.... and its going all well so far :)
Some people think 200 quid is enough to start .. i agree with you all...some people have the money to start with high money some dont.... but if you got the money to invest in this then u gota go for it :) im only 21 years old by the way :)
sorry for the long story... i never knew i could ever type this much lol
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Too many smiley faces...
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A fool and his money, as they say.
Good luck
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i know ! sorry lol ... :) :) haha
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Good luck m8, err..... I'd give the hoody a miss though, might think your going to do them over ( and I'm not talking about the windows) ;D
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haha lol
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why a trolley?
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Because.... parking right near the house all the time is no good..... i prefer a trolley as i can carry it around in and around little cuts... instead a big wire all over the place :) Ill be carrying 4/5 containers with me anyway :)
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Id get canvassing now mate, if youre starting cleaning in april, youll have loads of custom by then. Just work out the dates so the custys have a rough idea of when youll be starting them.
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It seems as if you have thought things out very carefully.
I am sure you have thought of this as well, though you don't mention it, but do make sure you have enough funds to live on while you build your business up, as it may take a little longer than you anticipate to get established.
Hope you do well. :)
John
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Im going to start canvassing the day i get my car :) and everything ready... i might have no work for the first 3 weeks :) But i will have money to live on while i do this so its all good. I dont want to go out canvassing... and say i will come in 2 or 3 weeks.. and then something can happen anything can come in my way... cos i havent even got a car yet ! ! so no point lol
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Good man! The sooner you start the sooner you will hit your target.
John
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Good luck, but ask yourself why are there so many nearly new systems on ebay?
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As far as canvassing goes, I would certainly wait until you can clean the next day....
Remove all obsticles then just go for it....
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Have you cleaned any windows yet ?
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Would that be April 1st you'll be starting?
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havent cleaned none yet. ill be wfp
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Good luck, but ask yourself why are there so many nearly new systems on ebay?
why? don't like the job or not enough customers?
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mate if you've got all that wedge get your self a proper van with a tank, tanks are not expensive & miles better than 25ltr cannisters & you'll have plenty of room for your trolley
i had an astra estate & 7/8 cannisters & a backpack. now got a van 350 tank & still use my backpack & wonder why i titted around for so long with the cannisters but good luck anyway
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mate if you've got all that wedge get your self a proper van with a tank, tanks are not expensive & miles better than 25ltr cannisters & you'll have plenty of room for your trolley
i had an astra estate & 7/8 cannisters & a backpack. now got a van 350 tank & still use my backpack & wonder why i titted around for so long with the cannisters but good luck anyway
how you getting on with your berlingo Kybl?
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You are spendin far to much money to start out with buy a van thats kitted out with system look on ebay pick one up for £2500 forget the trolly system as you are limited if u get a bigish job get sum ladders pockets scrim blades etc roughly about £300 sum tops printed and van letterd roughly about£300 public liability roughly£160 for year 10.000 buisness cards £120ebay total about £3.500 then this way you will know if its workin and u like it and then if u r not pikin enough work up u could always spend the other £3.000 on a round the way you want to do it is ok but if it dont work you will lose alot of money when you sell the gear its tough at the minute cos evry one jumping on the band wagon thinkin they can make thousands over night it will take you a few years to get it right and hav a good income good luck..
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terrible idea mate.go van mount straight away.you can get what you want for half the price you ve mentioned.spend the rest on buying a round to start you off.
why dont you work with a window cleaner and learn your trad skills first? then when you buy a round you more likely to keep your new customers.
dont run before you can walk.you might find out you dont like window cleaning day in/day out.
best wishes
dazmond
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
To do inside windows ;)
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There are other ways though yes?
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
a stupid comment as usual gd. why do you always say a load of bull. trad is a must to be a "proper window cleaner". not that you would know as you couldnt hack window cleaning hey....
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There are other ways though yes?
aye,windolene
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Well there goes mick lurking in the background yet again, change the record....
As for having to do trad to be a "proper" window cleaner you need to move on, I have worked for window cleaners all over the UK and seen them doing the insides with a variety of methods. And guess what it doesnt always involve a squegee and blade but amazingly the windows were clean when they finished...
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Well there goes mick lurking in the background yet again, change the record....
As for having to do trad to be a "proper" window cleaner you need to move on, I have worked for window cleaners all over the UK and seen them doing the insides with a variety of methods. And guess what it doesnt always involve a squegee and blade but amazingly the windows were clean when they finished...
haha knew you would bite...like a crappy boring open book....yaaaaaaaaaawn.
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Come on then big man why is a question a stupid comment? You too need to get a life if you just trawl this place waiting to make your comments....
Anything posted tonight is certainly not about me me me as you put it...
There is another thread about this place becoming like facebook and people just splurging negative comments, its preventing people from posting as they dont want to be shot down at every turn.
Just a word to the wise, you wont ever stop me posting if I have an opinion on anything. I may not always be right but its my opinion and will post it...
If you feel better about this and feel you have a victory again then it says alot more about your character than mine....
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Well there goes mick lurking in the background yet again, change the record....
As for having to do trad to be a "proper" window cleaner you need to move on, I have worked for window cleaners all over the UK and seen them doing the insides with a variety of methods. And guess what it doesnt always involve a squegee and blade but amazingly the windows were clean when they finished...
To feel confident in every situation when it comes to cleaning windows,whether insides or outsides,it is allways best that you know a variety of techniques and those that kid themselves into thinking that wfp is the be all and end all will at some stage wish they had at least the basic skills of trad.
Although wfp is certainly much safer than trad when using ladders there will allways be situations when using a squegee will come into it's own....
Lets hope GD that this isn't one of your canvassing techniques by telling customers that trad is no longer required....
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what i was saying was that working for another window cleaner would be invaluable.the guys only 21.plenty of time for building a round.he would have a better idea of whether he wants to window clean day in/day out.
IMO traditional window cleaning is all part of the tools of the job.it comes in handy at times especially during very cold spells of weather on ground floor work.insides,large plate glass windows and shops,old wooden oxidised windows,in tight spaces where its easier than dragging a hose to get the job done etc.
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Imo a PRO window cleaner has ALL the tools of the trade, with out a doubt tradional tools have there place....for a start some jobs are just so much quicker, i got one particular job thats all ground floor, all dead easy toclean by hand, if i did it with the pole id use a days water on it by 10 oclock
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
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Id get canvassing now mate, if youre starting cleaning in april, youll have loads of custom by then. Just work out the dates so the custys have a rough idea of when youll be starting them.
this is the best advice on here. business is all about sales, so the sooner you get some clients booked in, the sooner you'll get cash. its very easy to spend money on your business with the promise of future rewards.
stop 'planning' and start getting some clients. otherwise you re in danger of being a dreamer.
you can book cleans in up to 4 weeks in advance without problems.
good luck. :)
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
Same! ;D
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why wouldn,t you want to learn trad anyway,its only a case of going out with a windy for a few hours then practising at home,its not going to cost anything and its not a university course but theres no doubt it will come in very handy at some stage..
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A, Get a proper van
B, Get a van mount (plus trolley)
C, Get a good flyer (only need about 100 cards)
D, Good luck
Ps... After reading some comments on here i would like to add. LEARN TRAD
there will always be a time when you need it, the odd shop,that cant be done wfp, the odd inside job.
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I can understand people not wantin to do trad if they have a full round of WFP work,but if you are tryin to build a round and you want to maximise earning potential you would be better to learn trad as well,majority of shops will want done trad and you won't want to be turning down inside cleans if you need the work,I charge x 1.5 for insides so it can be a good earner.
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how you getting on with your berlingo Kybl?
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absolutely love it, i got a 2nd hand 45ft omnipole & that goes in no problem & i'm starting to be able to reverse quite well now, that was always my worry with a van lol, i go to scotland a lot & its better on deisel than my estate car was gonna protectakote it at the weekend &, it gets lots of looks now its sign written & i've had a few inquiries from it - only 1 job though
the question of trad,
ive just quoted on a care home that my mates just lost because of h&s & he's only trad. now i can wfp the outside in a fraction of the time but if i couldnt trad the inside i couldnt go for the job & it will be £250 for a days work
wfp is great i even do bungalows but its only 1 part of the job
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Good luck, but ask yourself why are there so many nearly new systems on ebay?
why? don't like the job or not enough customers?
EXACTLY
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
Same! ;D
WELL I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL YOU NEWBYS UNTIL YOU LEARN BASIC TRAD SKILLS, SERIOUSLY THATS EMBARASSING.
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
Same! ;D
WELL I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL YOU NEWBYS UNTIL YOU LEARN BASIC TRAD SKILLS, SERIOUSLY THATS EMBARASSING.
I'm with all the Boys on this one WFP and Trad both need to be mastered if you are to call yourself a window cleaner. Both are different tools to do the same job and both have their place in modern window cleaning.
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Agree no harm in Learning trad,its realy not difficult after a bit of praccy,I have just saved around 60 litres of pure by tradding a bungalow.massive help if your using a backpack or trolley system like myself.
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
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Buy a round ? am only 21 why do i want to spend money on a round when i can get customers my self? Buying rouinds is only worth it to big companys who have a few vans on the road not for individuals like me.... i can get work my self !
Also i cant get customers yet... i havent got a car yet.... what if something pops up ? and i cant do it when ive booked them in ? I will get customers the day i get my car :) Simple as that
and learn trad? I dont need to when im wfp :) But i will be going on the goverment funded course for trad :) sometime soon
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buying a round is probably the best way to go, from my point of view.
i bought a small round and had work canvassed, i still have 90% of the round and have almost nothing of the canvassed work.
the round customers are used to having a clean and don't really notice if the person doing it changes, and you can earn from day one.
new customers can take a free clean from you and never pay, mess you about, then cancel. others start well and the forget to pay so you chase them for weeks.
(the canvassing wasn't where i wanted it though)
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Buy a round ? am only 21 why do i want to spend money on a round when i can get customers my self? Buying rouinds is only worth it to big companys who have a few vans on the road not for individuals like me.... i can get work my self !
Also i cant get customers yet... i havent got a car yet.... what if something pops up ? and i cant do it when ive booked them in ? I will get customers the day i get my car :) Simple as that
and learn trad? I dont need to when im wfp :) But i will be going on the goverment funded course for trad :) sometime soon
ARE YOU REALLY LISTENING TO THE ADVICE BEING GIVEN TO YOU? DOESNT SOUND LIKE IT MATE, FYI LOADS OF PEOPLE BUY ROUNDS NOT JUST BIG COMPANYS. LIKE SOMEONE POINTED OUT,WHY ARE THERE SO MANY WFP VANS ON EBAY? COS PEOPLE RUSH IN BUY ALL THE GEAR WITH NO WORK...ALL THE GEAR BUT NO IDEA! ALL THE BEST
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
EXACTLY, same for me!
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
EXACTLY, same for me!
There are not enough rolly eyes in the universe!!!...what you gonna do if you land an old folks home or the best job youve ever had and they want the insides done? "err sorry dont do insides" what they gonna do? ring matey down the road who now has his dirty finger in your pie! wake up newbys!
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If a customer asked me to clean the insides and I had to say "No sorry I don't know how to use a squeegee." I would look a complete prat and rightly so. :-X
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
Same as above!!! Even been going a year and a half!
This is nothing but a business to me, and my business doesn't include any internal cleans and no traditional either.
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
Same as above!!! Even been going a year and a half!
This is nothing but a business to me, and my business doesn't include any internal cleans and no traditional either.
did you read my last comment richard? what do you think of that scenario?
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my god there is some utter garbage being posted on this forum
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you can keep on but, its my business and i will work how i wan't.
i have no interest in old peoples homes, or big contracts.
and do not want to go into peoples homes.
i want to keep my business simple, and WFP is perfect for my needs.
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Grow up.
Why should everyone do everything exactly the same way.
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May have something to do with....it works
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
Same as above!!! Even been going a year and a half!
This is nothing but a business to me, and my business doesn't include any internal cleans and no traditional either.
did you read my last comment richard? what do you think of that scenario?
hey.
yes, did read your comment re : best job ever needing trad. i guess we'd just offer to do the outsides only. i f they wanted another cleaner who could, then we'd miss out on the job.
there's plenty of work out there and we just like to keep it really simple about what work we will do , and what work we wont do. it's a lot easier that way. especially with staff.
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
i will never do trad, and i will never do insides. so there is no need to learn if your WFP.
EXACTLY, same for me!
There are not enough rolly eyes in the universe!!!...what you gonna do if you land an old folks home or the best job youve ever had and they want the insides done? "err sorry dont do insides" what they gonna do? ring matey down the road who now has his dirty finger in your pie! wake up newbys!
yes, i would say: sorry i don't do inside, i am too busy and i have no time to do the insides!
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
Same as above!!! Even been going a year and a half!
This is nothing but a business to me, and my business doesn't include any internal cleans and no traditional either.
did you read my last comment richard? what do you think of that scenario?
hey.
yes, did read your comment re : best job ever needing trad. i guess we'd just offer to do the outsides only. i f they wanted another cleaner who could, then we'd miss out on the job.
there's plenty of work out there and we just like to keep it really simple about what work we will do , and what work we wont do. it's a lot easier that way. especially with staff.
EXACTLY
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If a customer asked me to clean the insides and I had to say "No sorry I don't know how to use a squeegee." I would look a complete prat and rightly so. :-X
You say: sorry i am too busy, i don't do the insides!
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Id get canvassing now mate, if youre starting cleaning in april, youll have loads of custom by then. Just work out the dates so the custys have a rough idea of when youll be starting them.
this is the best advice on here. business is all about sales, so the sooner you get some clients booked in, the sooner you'll get cash. its very easy to spend money on your business with the promise of future rewards.
stop 'planning' and start getting some clients. otherwise you re in danger of being a dreamer.
you can book cleans in up to 4 weeks in advance without problems.
good luck. :)
I agree, up to 4 weeks no problem, standard practise really. Never a problem.
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i was trad for a couple of yrs and wfp since 2006 i havent done
any trad work since well apart from the odd problem window on my round
but it doesnt hurt to learn, more strings to your bow and and all that :)
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as i said before i will never trad anything, so don't need to learn.
if i can't do it WFP then i am not interested, i want to work the way thats easiest for me.
and after a year and a half i haven't needed to trad anything.
I have to be honest i used to think like this, I have built my round up pretty much wfp and i could probably keep going that way, but i have started to learn trad slowly the last couple of months and i quite enjoy it although I'm still pretty crud i think its worth learning if your calling yourself a window cleaner.
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I have been a self employed windy since 2001 wfp since 2005 but was still tradding bottoms until about a year ago! :o
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I have been a self employed windy since 2001 wfp since 2005 but was still tradding bottoms until about a year ago! :o
good for you, but if you have a good round you don't need trad!!!!!!!!
and if you like to do insides, do it ,but don't call us newbies because we don't do trad !! >:(
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May have something to do with....it works
:D
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I have been a self employed windy since 2001 wfp since 2005 but was still tradding bottoms until about a year ago! :o
good for you, but if you have a good round you don't need trad!!!!!!!!
and if you like to do insides, do it ,but don't call us newbies because we don't do trad !! >:(
HOW LONG YOU BEEN TRADING THEN? AND ALTHOUGH YOU DO SEEM TO HAVE FOUND YOURSELF A FEW OTHERS WHO DONT TRAD, MOST AND I MEAN MOST IN THE 99.999999% OF THE WORD WILL FIND THIS VERY ODD.
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i dont think it matters really but it is a bit odd that you all seem to be bragging about NOT having a skill that most w/c have & saying if you got a good round you dont need trad makes no sense at all your turning away easy dry work & saying thats good business ;D
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I think all new window cleaners should only be capable of cleaning windows wfp, more work for the rest of us then :D,
My son is 10 and he likes to help me in the holidays, he can trad right and left handed and wfp the bottoms as well as me.
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i dont think it matters really but it is a bit odd that you all seem to be bragging about NOT having a skill that most w/c have & saying if you got a good round you dont need trad makes no sense at all your turning away easy dry work & saying thats good business ;D
Someone saying can u do the insides is music to my ears on a cold january morning ;D
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And when the custy wants the insides doing ,of which could be your best custy.They
have to look else where,and i bet that the windy who trads the insides will try and quote for the outside = oppurtunity for lost work,i dont know any who work this way.
So you get the oppurtunity to quote for very large job good money and because you dont want to trad do you think the custy will want to mess about and find 2 different windys. Most wont .
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And when the custy wants the insides doing ,of which could be your best custy.They
have to look else where,and i bet that the windy who trads the insides will try and quote for the outside = oppurtunity for lost work,i dont know any who work this way.
So you get the oppurtunity to quote for very large job good money and because you dont want to trad do you think the custy will want to mess about and find 2 different windys. Most wont .
THAT WAS EXACTLY MY POINT WIGHTSURF, IM NOT TRYING TO CONTINUE THIS ROW WITH THE NON TRADDERS BUT THIS WILL HAPPEN TO ONE OF THEM ONE DAY IF THEY DONT TRAD.
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And when the custy wants the insides doing ,of which could be your best custy.They
have to look else where,and i bet that the windy who trads the insides will try and quote for the outside = oppurtunity for lost work,i dont know any who work this way.
So you get the oppurtunity to quote for very large job good money and because you dont want to trad do you think the custy will want to mess about and find 2 different windys. Most wont .
THAT WAS EXACTLY MY POINT WIGHTSURF, IM NOT TRYING TO CONTINUE THIS ROW WITH THE NON TRADDERS BUT THIS WILL HAPPEN TO ONE OF THEM ONE DAY IF THEY DONT TRAD.
Its all a little less competition
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Its not competition if they dont want the work.... Most domestic cleaners that I have met dont do many insides, but each to their own.
I would suggest if someone chooses not to trad or do internals then its their business decision, I would also suggest its not your right to brand them not a proper window cleaner..... Its disrespectful, unless things change this place will die cos its all just name calling and one upmanship at the moment.....
If anyone dares to say something a little out of the ordinary its jumped on and ripped to pieces....
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Its not competition if they dont want the work.... Most domestic cleaners that I have met dont do many insides, but each to their own.
I would suggest if someone chooses not to trad or do internals then its their business decision, I would also suggest its not your right to brand them not a proper window cleaner..... Its disrespectful, unless things change this place will die cos its all just name calling and one upmanship at the moment.....
If anyone dares to say something a little out of the ordinary its jumped on and ripped to pieces....
you gotta stay neutral GD keep that canvassing work coming in :P
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I do just fine thank you....
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I do just fine thank you....
i know you do i was just kidding mate ;D as you say each to their own! doesnt mean i understand it though.
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Why would you ever need to even learn trad skills if you had wfp? I dont see why but am willing to be educated...
a stupid comment as usual gd. why do you always say a load of bull. trad is a must to be a "proper window cleaner". not that you would know as you couldnt hack window cleaning hey....
That was my question and the first response, why should I just sit back and let some fella I have never met mug me off on a faceless public forum?
His response was that he knew I would bite and called me boring, if thats how he gets kicks in life it says more about him than me....
Just wait for it cos here it comes...
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get a van mount, and something like a connect 230,220,
400lters or 500 in the 230 easy.
spend £3k on van then i guess you should get it done by pure freedom / thecleaningwarehouse it will be less then £7k.all in van and system fitted.
dont get a trolly....and dont get a 40 foot pole for domestic you wont really need that hight. get a 25 foot slx and a 31 foot glass fiber/cheap long pole you will need the glass fiber for the odd job that the 25 foot slx cant reach the flex is handy sometimes too and its only for one window here and there.
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Its not competition if they dont want the work.... Most domestic cleaners that I have met dont do many insides, but each to their own.
I would suggest if someone chooses not to trad or do internals then its their business decision, I would also suggest its not your right to brand them not a proper window cleaner..... Its disrespectful, unless things change this place will die cos its all just name calling and one upmanship at the moment.....
If anyone dares to say something a little out of the ordinary its jumped on and ripped to pieces....
Well said, thank you!
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i dont do insides either.cant be bothered but saying that ........ive relented on a new customer.shes really gorgeous!!!!
£30 6 weekly outsides only with insides cleaned every other time for £70!.......and yes ill be tradding them with a boab and bottle on my belt....oh and errrr.....shoe covers for my feet!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
c,mon lads whats all the backbiting for?we are all window cleaners!!!if you want to just use wfp then thats your business but i do think its good to be able to trad to a top standard as well!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
best wishes to you all
dazmond
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i lost a £35 job the other week because i wouldnt clean the inside of the conservatory roof.she is really fussy.her husband was great though.they have now got this other window cleaner to clean all windows inside and out and the inside of conny roof.
im really not bothered as i have lots of work.i reckon this guy will get sick of it as i clean all the rest of the houses in the surrounding area so ill probably pick it up again in the future when he realises how fussy she is!!!!. ;D ;D ;D
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dont blame you conny internals are a lethal ,
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Its not competition if they dont want the work.... Most domestic cleaners that I have met dont do many insides, but each to their own.
I would suggest if someone chooses not to trad or do internals then its their business decision, I would also suggest its not your right to brand them not a proper window cleaner..... Its disrespectful, unless things change this place will die cos its all just name calling and one upmanship at the moment.....
If anyone dares to say something a little out of the ordinary its jumped on and ripped to pieces....
Lets just have a think about the evolution of tools in general.
In building, did all the chippys thro away there hammers when the nail gun arrived? Or maybe there saws, when the circular saw came out? No
How about mechanics, did the mechanics through out all there spanners when the pneumatic wrench was invented? No
Did the broom become obsolete with the invention of the hoover? No
So why would it be different for window cleaners??!?
Wfp is an excellent invention, but trad still has its place, and always will.
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I agree totally but its all down to individual choice, if some chooses not to use trad equipment then they are well within their rights and they still end up with clean windows when the job is done....
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I agree totally but its all down to individual choice, if some chooses not to use trad equipment then they are well within their rights and they still end up with clean windows when the job is done....
Exactly
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If a joiner had a choice between a hammer and nails and a nail gun when both could do the job which do you think he would use?
Then think about all the other things tc said, I cant see a cleaner using a broom when they could use a hoover. Can you?
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Just out of curiousity I spent an hour or so learning trad this afternoon with a good friend of mine who really knows what he is doing with a blade.... Had a go with an applicator and blade and a couple of different wagtails, I have to say I really enjoyed it! Made a bit of a mess to start with but got better with practice...
I still dont believe I would use it on a purely domestic round but i can see it has its place....
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GD I love doing windows the Trad way. It makes a nice change from being on the pole all day
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Hello mate,
I have to say I did enjoy it and would give it a whirl if needed....
I have been off work ill since the middle of last week but we need to talk soon colly...
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I agree totally but its all down to individual choice, if some chooses not to use trad equipment then they are well within their rights and they still end up with clean windows when the job is done....
Not on the inside ,they don't ;D
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I think smiley faces should be banned and removed lol
As for internals, they are rare on a domestic round and if you had to do them they could be done with a spray of pure and a microfibre....
And just for the record I have seen a few other windies do this not me....
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I think smiley faces should be banned and removed lol
As for internals, they are rare on a domestic round and if you had to do them they could be done with a spray of pure and a microfibre....
And just for the record I have seen a few other windies do this not me....
Check out the "dragon fly" interior window cleaning systems, pukka for thing like inside conny roofs.
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I think smiley faces should be banned and removed lol
As for internals, they are rare on a domestic round and if you had to do them they could be done with a spray of pure and a microfibre....
And just for the record I have seen a few other windies do this not me....
Check out the "dragon fly" interior window cleaning systems, pukka for thing like inside conny roofs.
Expensive for the 'occasional' inside clean
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That looks spot on, who needs trad lol
And that is a joke before anyone starts again...
Bit on the pricey side but same principle as a spray bottle and microfibre cloth.... At last I make a comment on this without being shot down lol....
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Ready.....................aim..........................................
Only joking George! ;D
John
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Lol looking on my phone so dont get the whole screen so you had me going there....
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Look forward to hearing from you when your feeling back on form George!
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Is it just me or do you lot find that wpf gear is abit extortionate!!
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Is it just me or do you lot find that wpf gear is abit extortionate!!
Depends where you go to buy the kit. I went almost everywhere to get a quote for a 250 litre system. The prices I got range from £1500 down to about £800 but I got in for half that by just buying what I needed and saying stuff like. "I don't need a pole as I'm buying one seperate anyway."