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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 12:27:05 pm

Title: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 12:27:05 pm
I'll cut a long story short, been trying to be an advertised round from Tom since december to be told umpteen stories of I'm not selling it to someone else is having it.

I finally viewed the round last week and said ok I'll have just need to get the money from the bank manager, which I did yesterday..
Left him a few messages yesterday saying call me to only be rung today by his window cleaner Duncan that they sold it elsewhere to someone else????



If your building a good reputation this isn't the way to go about it..,

As far as I'm concerned people need to steer clear, as this is not on!!!
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: andyM on February 23, 2012, 01:02:45 pm
Really thats a matter between the both of you and I don't think should be highlighted on a public forum.
I remember a while back advertising a van for sale. The first phone call I had was from a bloke sounding extremely keen telling me he 100% wanted to buy the van (without even seeing it!) and asking me how he could pay me as he lived over 100 miles away!
He  desperately wanted the van but couldn't get to my area for about a week, so against my better judgement I told him to send me a cheque to secure the van for him and I would contact him when the cheque cleared for him to arrange collection.
That day I had about a dozen phone calls from people in the local area, I could of sold that van 5 times over!
But I told all of them im sorry someone has said they want the van and they have sent a cheque in the post.
I waited 4 days .........and no cheque arrived. I tried phoning the "buyer", then when I eventually got hold of him he told me he was coming the next day with the cash.
Next day came .......he never showed up.
In the end I sold the van to someone local.......who didn't muck me about and came with cash on the day!
I went against my better judgement in holding out for the "eager buyer" and I came unstuck.

Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: tom cronin on February 23, 2012, 01:27:11 pm
When you look at around, but dont have the funds secured for it, no deposit, and and no idea when or even if you can, Nothing is secured.

Come on here idioting me off you f***ing mug
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Alistair@AWC on February 23, 2012, 01:44:16 pm
dont have the funds secured for it, no deposit, and and no idea when or even if you can, Nothing is secured.
 

I think its all down to communication, if thats what you told him when he viewed it he can't have any complaints! But if you agreed and told him it was his I can see his problem.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 02:01:57 pm
When you look at around, but dont have the funds secured for it, no deposit, and and no idea when or even if you can, Nothing is secured.

Come on here idioting me off you f***ing mug

There was no mention of a deposit at all from you I told you there and then that I will have the work and said worst case that you may have do the next clean and you both agreed that it was fine... Deal done you called me over the weekend to confirm about my appointment at the bank and said I'd call you on Wednesday evening once I'd secured the funds which I did... The mug here is you I held my end of the deal...

I'd heard some things about you and how dishonest you are so no change there then...

Three times it's taken me to get this work, you mug people off at every turn.


The reason why I'm posting this is so everybody is clear on how you Tom conduct business you weren't even man enough to call me yourself you have your employee do it!!!!

Shame really I'm sitting here with the money that you could've had plus any future canvassing that I wanted you to do. Now you can shove it up your arse!!!

Oh last point if you'd pick your phone up you could have said this all yourself big man!!
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: tom cronin on February 23, 2012, 02:04:31 pm
Excuse me but im holiday until friday, havent got phone with.

Ur just ped cos u let a sweet little round slip away, i be annoyed too  ;)
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 02:07:14 pm
Really thats a matter between the both of you and I don't think should be highlighted on a public forum.
I remember a while back advertising a van for sale. The first phone call I had was from a bloke sounding extremely keen telling me he 100% wanted to buy the van (without even seeing it!) and asking me how he could pay me as he lived over 100 miles away!
He  desperately wanted the van but couldn't get to my area for about a week, so against my better judgement I told him to send me a cheque to secure the van for him and I would contact him when the cheque cleared for him to arrange collection.
That day I had about a dozen phone calls from people in the local area, I could of sold that van 5 times over!
But I told all of them im sorry someone has said they want the van and they have sent a cheque in the post.
I waited 4 days .........and no cheque arrived. I tried phoning the "buyer", then when I eventually got hold of him he told me he was coming the next day with the cash.
Next day came .......he never showed up.
In the end I sold the van to someone local.......who didn't muck me about and came with cash on the day!
I went against my better judgement in holding out for the "eager buyer" and I came unstuck.



I'm sorry but I've been chasing this work since December last year, it's not me wasting anyone's time. I spend my last bit of cash flow o er Christmas and on my new sign writing so I needed to borrow the money as mine is tied up. What's the problem I would have quite happily given a deposit but it was never mentioned in the hour long conversation we had afterwards... Funny that
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 02:12:44 pm
Excuse me but im holiday until friday, havent got phone with.

Ur just ped cos u let a sweet little round slip away, i be annoyed too  ;)

Your a Prick mate I'm glad you backed out and stripped me up as I know now exactly what having any dealings with someone like you would be like...

Would have been nice, oh sorry Scott I'm on holiday next week so i wont be able to take your call, if you can't get hold of me I'll sell it to someone else... What a joke

Lesson learned, its your reputation in question not mine!!!

Bet you did this to other guy who was going to buy it before me???
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Rogue Trader on February 23, 2012, 03:19:45 pm
all this talk of mugs makes me thirsty anyone want a cuppa?
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: bobplum on February 23, 2012, 04:53:25 pm
i understand the anger etc and the jist of the problem but i really think the mods should lock this post as its a private matter between the two of them
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Alistair@AWC on February 23, 2012, 04:57:20 pm
I don't know Bob, anyone who comes to this or any forum with the sole intention of touting for business should be open to members feedback - good or bad!
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: deeege on February 23, 2012, 05:09:02 pm
i understand the anger etc and the jist of the problem but i really think the mods should lock this post as its a private matter between the two of them

With respect, I disagree strongly bob.

TC canvassing comes on here, as do others, blatantly looking for business. If somebody has an unpleasant experience when dealing with him then others need to know the details so they can make up their own mind when entering into deals with him in the future.

Think of it as a public service announcement.

I admit that OP would be more credible without the name calling though.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Simon@ Clearview contractors on February 23, 2012, 05:14:53 pm
I also think the thread should be left open, as a deterrant and to make people aware of mistakes made during the purchase of work/rounds.

Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Ian101 on February 23, 2012, 05:16:27 pm
Window cleaning can be distressing at times  :)
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: LWC Ltd on February 23, 2012, 05:31:00 pm
This is why I wouldn't buy or sell a round advertised on a public forum.
Anything goes wrong and you have all this agro to deal with.
These things should be dealt with privately and confidentially.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 05:40:30 pm
The reason why i'd posted this, was not to argue tit for tat about being messed around but to inform people of the bad experience i've had with TC Canvassing.

He blatantly advertises on this forum and people need to know feedback, to give a pathetic reply is just not right.

I've had no contact with him with an apology or reason to why he's chasing another £250 from someone else, so i've posted here instead.

Locking this thread will only protect the feedback of the business/ person that's doing this
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: deeege on February 23, 2012, 05:43:39 pm
This is why I wouldn't buy or sell a round advertised on a public forum.
Anything goes wrong and you have all this agro to deal with.
These things should be dealt with privately and confidentially.


If, for example, in 6 months time you tried to buy a round from a forum member and got scammed or given the runaround, you would obviously be upset. If you then found out that the scammer had previous for doing this to other forum members in the past, you would be disappointed that the previous victim hadn't posted a warning, right?
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 05:45:37 pm
This is why I wouldn't buy or sell a round advertised on a public forum.
Anything goes wrong and you have all this agro to deal with.
These things should be dealt with privately and confidentially.


If, for example, in 6 months time you tried to buy a round from a forum member and got scammed or given the runaround. You would obviously be upset. If you then found out that the scammer had previous for doing this to other forum members in the past, you would be disappointed that the previous victim hadn't posted a warning, right?

exactly, thank you :)
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 23, 2012, 05:50:40 pm
Excuse me but im holiday until friday, havent got phone with.

Ur just ped cos u let a sweet little round slip away, i be annoyed too  ;)
havent got a phone with you but got a computer,yes right,one reason not to trust someone
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 23, 2012, 06:02:52 pm
Another wonderful supplier showing that brilliant customer service attitude that wins the hearts and minds of all on cleanitup?
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 23, 2012, 06:05:01 pm
Another wonderful supplier showing that brilliant customer service attitude that wins the hearts and minds of all on cleanitup?
:o spot on gold
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: magic moments on February 23, 2012, 06:15:12 pm
Have to agree why lock ?after a little disagreement,we are all adults and it helps to view peoples experiences of using services openly advertised here.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: roundbuilder on February 23, 2012, 06:29:31 pm
I'll cut a long story short, been trying to be an advertised round from Tom since december to be told umpteen stories of I'm not selling it to someone else is having it.

I finally viewed the round last week and said ok I'll have just need to get the money from the bank manager, which I did yesterday..
Left him a few messages yesterday saying call me to only be rung today by his window cleaner Duncan that they sold it elsewhere to someone else????

I mean what the f#*k, if your doing a deal with someone you do it... I'm seriously ped about this and cannot believe what I've been told...

If your building a good reputation this isn't the way to go about it..,

As far as I'm concerned people need to steer clear, as this is not on!!!


First come first served. you mugged yourself off. Next time have the funds ready to buy ASAP. I wouldn't wait around 3 months to see to you or anyone if someone comes up with the cash. Your an arse starting this thread..tc is a top guy and demo not a rip off merchant.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 06:38:47 pm
I'll cut a long story short, been trying to be an advertised round from Tom since december to be told umpteen stories of I'm not selling it to someone else is having it.

I finally viewed the round last week and said ok I'll have just need to get the money from the bank manager, which I did yesterday..
Left him a few messages yesterday saying call me to only be rung today by his window cleaner Duncan that they sold it elsewhere to someone else????

I mean what the f#*k, if your doing a deal with someone you do it... I'm seriously ped about this and cannot believe what I've been told...

If your building a good reputation this isn't the way to go about it..,

As far as I'm concerned people need to steer clear, as this is not on!!!


First come first served. you mugged yourself off. Next time have the funds ready to buy ASAP. I wouldn't wait around 3 months to see to you or anyone if someone comes up with the cash. Your an arse starting this thread..tc is a top guy and demo not a rip off merchant.

do yourself a favour and re-read i haven't waited around three monthsto make my mind up, i've tried to view the round and buy it for the last three months but he keeps changing his mind everytime i've spoken to him about selling it.

Get your facts right next time.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 23, 2012, 06:40:50 pm
o dear,only one way to sort this out...............................fight.............................. ;D ;D
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: roundbuilder on February 23, 2012, 06:46:51 pm
Well I had some off him and bought equipment from him at he's house. Must be you.. Why would he not want to sell ASAP??? You are just annoyed coz you missed out on a good deal.
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Scott Dean on February 23, 2012, 07:05:15 pm
Well I had some off him and bought equipment from him at he's house. Must be you.. Why would he not want to sell ASAP??? You are just annoyed coz you missed out on a good deal.

Im annoyed because we'd come to a deal for the round and we agreed that i would be getting the money from the bank and that i had to go in to see the bank manager to get it (as i needed to borrow it, as my cash flow was too low this month) i spoke to him at the weekend (he called me and i returned the call) to confirm my appointment this Wednesday with the bank manager and that i would call him in the evening (this Wednesday) to arrange the change over/ introductions and money exchange etc

but law and behold behind the agreement we both had (thats Myself, Tom & Duncan) he was selling it to someone else. If Tom had said, "To hold it i will need a deposit?" i would have given him one but nothing was said as it was agreed will all parties that i was having it 110%

this is why i'm ped and to top it off i'd been trying to call him since 19:30 yesterday and never got a reply, until Duncan (Toms window cleaner) phoned me today to tell me that its now sold???? Duncan told me that Tom had not told him anything about our arrangement or discussions over the weekend.

what else do i need to say, if i'd have known this was going to happen i wouldnt have wasted my time borrowing money from the bank and viewing the round because the gezzers a waste of f#*king time!!!

because he deals on here people that want a canvasser or want to buy work from him need to know what exactly he's like...period!!!
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Johnny B on February 23, 2012, 10:05:54 pm
You're not happy are you Scott?

When you and TC agreed to do the deal, did you get a contract drawn up, agreed and signed?

John 
Title: Re: TC Canvassing!!!!!!
Post by: Tom White on February 24, 2012, 03:38:52 pm
When you look at around, but dont have the funds secured for it, no deposit, and and no idea when or even if you can, Nothing is secured.

Come on here idioting me off you Deleted by mod

Please play nicely.