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Title: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Wc Solutions on February 09, 2012, 07:52:06 pm
just seeing whats what regards having a business facebook page in our trade??
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 09, 2012, 07:54:51 pm
just seeing whats what regards having a business facebook page in our trade??

They are worth having, they are not worth having just to get likes off of here as this will not help you.

I have just pulled mine down as it needs to be redesigned.

I would defo recommend having one done, it is a page that can link to your site and has weight behind it.
 
There are also other benifits
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: dotty on February 09, 2012, 08:04:40 pm
i does it cost any thing to have a page on facebook
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Wc Solutions on February 09, 2012, 08:05:44 pm
hope your grammer is better on your page mate  :)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: colin purewater on February 09, 2012, 08:13:04 pm
yes the page is free but to advertise to everyone in your area you have to set a daily budjet of ££ a day, pay as much or a little as you like, a great idea ithink mate
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 09, 2012, 08:20:42 pm
There are some free resources and ideas on my website (bottom of this page). Any queries let me know, we also build pages for people and I am putting together a package for window cleaners...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: dotty on February 09, 2012, 08:28:51 pm
good idea
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Simon@ Clearview contractors on February 09, 2012, 10:06:22 pm
There are some free resources and ideas on my website (bottom of this page). Any queries let me know, we also build pages for people and I am putting together a package for window cleaners...

Aswell as the canvassing, this is something that sounds interesting George, do you have aball-park  price for package?
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 09, 2012, 10:12:01 pm
It depends what you want, I am not ready to launch it yet but will talk to you tomorrow about the options.
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 09, 2012, 10:14:02 pm
i got one

more for fun and just showing people know what you can do

www.facebook.com/nationalwindowcleaning
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 09, 2012, 10:23:38 pm
Good site Dave, if you would like options for a branded page let me know. I have been talking to Mitch about launching the facebook side of my business on CIU at the end of the month and know that facebook will play a big part in the future marketing of all types of businesses...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 09, 2012, 10:34:25 pm
GD

I am intrigued

send me more details

Dave
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: boshravie on February 09, 2012, 10:42:21 pm
i got one

more for fun and just showing people know what you can do

www.facebook.com/nationalwindowcleaning

Hi Dave, have you opened a brunch in Australia ?  ;)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: boshravie on February 09, 2012, 10:43:51 pm
Good site Dave, if you would like options for a branded page let me know. I have been talking to Mitch about launching the facebook side of my business on CIU at the end of the month and know that facebook will play a big part in the future marketing of all types of businesses...

Yes please GD  :)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 09, 2012, 10:44:08 pm
Send me an email to george@helpmysocialmedia.com with the best address for you and I will send over some examples of our previous work so you can see what we can do...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 09, 2012, 11:42:33 pm
boshravie

One of my lads are emigrating to Oz next year, you have just given me food for thought.

I have often thought of moving out there on a business visa, but still got a lot to do in the UK first
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 10, 2012, 06:51:57 am
hope your grammer is better on your page mate  :)
google seems to like it  ;D, I have edited the grammer to the best of my ability for you on this post.

I have dyslexia so I get things muddled a bit so sorry for that old chap, I would have to reread and rewrite my posts about 5 times and still I would add words I can't see which is annoying to say the least. I get my wife to proof read anything I do now as shes clever  ;) I'm just a thicko :)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: daniel worgan on February 10, 2012, 06:57:58 am
Send me an email to george@helpmysocialmedia.com with the best address for you and I will send over some examples of our previous work so you can see what we can do...

Do you do all this for free or are you advertising your services here.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 10, 2012, 07:08:06 am
Send me an email to george@helpmysocialmedia.com with the best address for you and I will send over some examples of our previous work so you can see what we can do...

Do you do all this for free or are you advertising your services here.... ;D ;D
I will answer on behalf of George as he will still be tucked up in bed, this service is not free and he's already in talks with Mitch about this, although he gives a few tips for people on his page free, to have a facebook page that works, it takes time and effort on either your part or from a company to do this for you.

You will need to know what your doing to a degree for getting the likes or it will be next to useless.

I might write a short guide for everyone to read to help you out a little if there is any interest in me doing it i'm sure I could get george to chip in with me.


Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Tom Kelly on February 10, 2012, 10:06:13 am
I feel you only get out what you put in.

Our Facebook was just plodding along doing nothing, but then I really started to put some good content on, getting the link out there, and now we get several people enquiring through it, as well as our Twitter!

Have a look, I can help out! :)

Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/impact43training)

Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/impact43)

:)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 11:48:57 am
I am not ready to fully launch yet but I there will be three options,

Training

Branding

Management, I will build and brand the pages for free for a commission on any work the site brings in so again it is risk free.

It will be launched through CIU at the beginning of next month so keep an eye out....
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: H S and Son on February 10, 2012, 12:03:53 pm
What I dont understand about Facebook is you say you have put more work into it, whats that, updating your status to 'Cleaned a four-bedder with minging converatory today' and now you are getting enquiries. Surely these people must be your Facebook friends? In which case if they're your friends and are looking for a window-cleaner why didn't they think of you before?

If they're not your Facebook friends what are they doing searching Facebook for a window cleaner for?
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Tom Kelly on February 10, 2012, 12:07:49 pm
What I dont understand about Facebook is you say you have put more work into it, whats that, updating your status to 'Cleaned a four-bedder with minging converatory today' and now you are getting enquiries. Surely these people must be your Facebook friends? In which case if they're your friends and are looking for a window-cleaner why didn't they think of you before?

If they're not your Facebook friends what are they doing searching Facebook for a window cleaner for?

That's the best bit about social media.

If your friend LIKES your page, their friend then sees they like it and think.. "hmm, yeah, I'll like that", then say 2 of their friends see it..

:)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 12:20:06 pm
The time and effort goes into getting your name known locally through likes and reccomendations. It does take time and effort for it to build....
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: H S and Son on February 10, 2012, 01:45:23 pm
What I dont understand about Facebook is you say you have put more work into it, whats that, updating your status to 'Cleaned a four-bedder with minging converatory today' and now you are getting enquiries. Surely these people must be your Facebook friends? In which case if they're your friends and are looking for a window-cleaner why didn't they think of you before?

If they're not your Facebook friends what are they doing searching Facebook for a window cleaner for?

That's the best bit about social media.

If your friend LIKES your page, their friend then sees they like it and think.. "hmm, yeah, I'll like that", then say 2 of their friends see it..

:)


But it's no good if their friends and their friends friends dont live within lets say 20 miles from you. I bet most people's FB friends live on average 850 miles away. It just seems pointless to me. Imagine the conversation on FB.

'Hiya mate, I see you're a friend of so-n-so, he tells me you're a window cleaner'

'Yes mate, I am, we've been cleaning so-no so's windows for 15 years'

'Oh I know, theyre really impressed with your level of service, could you give us a quote for cleaning our windows please mate?'

Yea sure, whereabouts are you'

'The Scilly Isles'

Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: H S and Son on February 10, 2012, 01:55:16 pm
The truth of the matter is it's another fine money making effort of Mark Zuckerberg.

He's about to float his baby on the stock market. Think about it.


 ;)
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 02:22:16 pm
Another? Why what else has he done? They may have bought other businesses since but facebook but this is his main idea. Other people make money out of their business whether it be 200 quid or 200 billion...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: H S and Son on February 10, 2012, 04:29:34 pm
Facebook is his other one. This is advertising on it, two seperate enterprises. He's trying to sell FB to the markets, it's being floated on the stock exchange soon. Making it into something that is a revenue stream means it'll attract a higher price. Its a sales gimmick on his behalf.
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 05:21:49 pm
There are plenty of ways to generate business without advertising, but even if you do its still worth doing. I wouldnt not use a site just cos they making money, money makes the world go round...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 10, 2012, 05:32:51 pm
How do you get that large landing page for your facebook page? if that makes sense, which i doubt it does..

I have seen some facebook busniess pages, with a large flyer like picture that takes up the whole landing page. I would like to know how its done, if anyone can help..

Cheers,

Matt
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: H S and Son on February 10, 2012, 06:02:12 pm
There are plenty of ways to generate business without advertising, but even if you do its still worth doing. I wouldnt not use a site just cos they making money, money makes the world go round...

You're right, it's cutting off your nose to spite your face if you advertise because someone will be making some money from it. My point was that Zuckerberg has gone down the advertising angle because it's a good revenue stream for FB coincidentally this has started to really take off not too short a period prior to FB floating. Making it look all the more attractive. However do people REALLY use FB to find services/trades that they need. I just don't think so. It's fir the benefit of those who've got their finger in the FB pie (good for them) and not it's users.


Ask Lee Pryor how much he's thrown at FB, I think he had 100,000 FB ads lined up with them a while back.
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 06:08:28 pm
Ads do work if targeted correctly but its about building and maintaining a network, they are called social networks for a reason. Networking works in any business, facebook is just the ideal platform to do so.

I brand pages all the time, its too technical to explain on here...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 10, 2012, 08:06:05 pm
How do you get that large landing page for your facebook page? if that makes sense, which i doubt it does..

I have seen some facebook busniess pages, with a large flyer like picture that takes up the whole landing page. I would like to know how its done, if anyone can help..

Cheers,

Matt
it is a custom page Matt, you need to have it designed and installed on the facebook page, it is a tab normally welcome, this is just one of a few ways for you to get more likes, this type of thing help the page to go viral there are a host of other things also but this is one of them.

Hope that helps ;)

Ian
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 10, 2012, 08:30:21 pm
Thanks Ian,

That does help. Is it something that can be done quite easily? I have the image i want to use, but is it difficult to add the welcome page etc? Im assuming its just a matter of adding the image you want to use to the specific page?

Thanks mate,

Matt
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Erithwc on February 10, 2012, 08:35:07 pm
I have not read all the posts on this topic but i think facebook and twitter are a good thing for my business i have my twitter account linked to my website to update the news feeds.

But i can't see the point in getting loads of other window cleaners to like my pages it seems silly to have competitors on you facebook page for potential customers to see  ???

regards erithwc
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 08:53:20 pm
We can build it and add it to your page, email me at george@helpmysocialmedia.com....
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 10, 2012, 09:03:57 pm
We can build it and add it to your page, email me at george@helpmysocialmedia.com....

Hi mate, i appreciate the offer, but im looking to learn a bit more about it and have a crack at it myself, keep costs down and lern at the same time. Ive searched a few if the Iframe apps, but just not sure which is the best/safest one to use..

Thanks anyway..
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 10, 2012, 09:09:10 pm
Nothing wrong with other window cleaners on your facebook

I have had thousands of pounds worth of work from other window cleaners
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: GDwindowcleaning on February 10, 2012, 09:20:12 pm
Hi

I will have a word with my tech guy and let you know what he uses, as for daves point all networking is good. I would build a local network so if work comes up in an area you dont work then you can pass it on and vice versa...
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Matt Gibson on February 10, 2012, 09:41:36 pm
cheers mate
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 10, 2012, 11:39:47 pm
Nothing wrong with other window cleaners on your facebook

I have had thousands of pounds worth of work from other window cleaners
David, there is a little bit of a different between you and quite a few other windows cleaners, so the comment made was for normal window cleaners to get more targeted work and if domestic this is totally to the point getting the likes will not help..  wanting to get the best from facebook this is good advice, and getting likes from here will yeld little results for the majority of people on here.

Hopefully before it starts again like it did when someone said it is good for everyone to link to everyone elses websites  ::), Google is not stupid and this can affect rankings and pr rank, (there is a tip there for the more savvy online marketer  ;)

When I say normal, your a little different  :-*  ;D  :-X
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 11, 2012, 08:12:58 am
Awe , am I special ?
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Window Washers on February 11, 2012, 08:20:11 am
Awe , am I special ?
you are David, you are also good at what you do  :-*
Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 11, 2012, 09:58:56 am
i sent you email

Title: Re: facebook page - good think or why bother??
Post by: boshravie on February 11, 2012, 08:41:28 pm
boshravie

One of my lads are emigrating to Oz next year, you have just given me food for thought.

I have often thought of moving out there on a business visa, but still got a lot to do in the UK first

I wouldn’t mind give OZ a shot myself Dave,  few of my friends have been there and speak highly of this country.