Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee Burbidge on February 08, 2012, 06:16:48 pm
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WCM are looking at awards for the best of what ever it may be. The idea is that we all nominate a product ( in its category ) and vote for the one we think is best value, best product etc.
WCM will award the winner.
We will be starting with the category of Best Domestic Water Fed Pole as nominated by you guys and then as voted by you guys.
So we will start with the nomination. Which domestic wfp do you think deserves to be recognised for its usability, cost and design.
Leave your nominations in this topic or email me directly at lee@windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk
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Lee, it'll be Gardiners; just give the award to them. The only disagreement will be on the length of the SLX concerned.
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Saying that, I think the Harris will be up there as well.
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Slx 25
Simon.
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25ft SLX with aqua-daptor and supalite brush.best pole out there for me!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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gardiners slx,mate with out doubt,top quailty customer services good light and rigid product,
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Saying that, I think the Harris will be up there as well.
I wouldn't disagree with that Tosh.
But I would say a 25ft pole is more versatile in covering the majority of situations you will encounter on domestics.
Quality, weight and value for money......got to be the SLX 25.
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A bit pointless really isn't it ;D
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Lee, it'll be Gardiners; just give the award to them. The only disagreement will be on the length of the SLX concerned.
No problem Tosh. Is your nomination Gardiners SLX pole?
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Slx 25
Simon.
What is that, Simon?
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25ft SLX with aqua-daptor and supalite brush.best pole out there for me!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Another nomination for the SLX
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gardiners slx,mate with out doubt,top quailty customer services good light and rigid product,
Yet another nomination for SLX
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Saying that, I think the Harris will be up there as well.
I wouldn't disagree with that Tosh.
But I would say a 25ft pole is more versatile in covering the majority of situations you will encounter on domestics.
Quality, weight and value for money......got to be the SLX 25.
Lol think Tosh is right SLX. Surly we have other nominations to vote against??
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A bit pointless really isn't it ;D
Oh rite you mean cus its all coming out SLX lol
I have posted in other forums too so would be interesting to see
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Lee, it'll be Gardiners; just give the award to them. The only disagreement will be on the length of the SLX concerned.
No problem Tosh. Is your nomination Gardiners SLX pole?
Yep, SLX, but I like the 18 foot, never tried the 25 footer, but it's good for 95% of all my work.
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the best value pole should be CLX 22 for domestics coupled with a dt flocked gardiners brush
great pole and brush by gardiners
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the best value pole should be CLX 22 for domestics coupled with a dt flocked gardiners brush
great pole and brush by gardiners
Elite my fab pole at the moment is the CLX, I love it.
So we have the CLX and the SLX so far ( Alex G - looking good)
Does any one want to nominate a pole that is not a Gardiners pole??
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Elite 30, water fed pole co, very happy with mine.
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SLX 30 with quick release resi neck 1, with john guest fitting, mixed duel trim brush. Absolutely brilliant.
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Gardiners? SLX?
Who are they? Never heard of them?
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Elite 30, water fed pole co, very happy with mine.
Andy would you mind emailing me a link for that pole - lee@windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk
Do they do a domestic version as 30ft sounds very commercial buddy?
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SLX CLX
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the best value pole should be CLX 22 for domestics coupled with a dt flocked gardiners brush
great pole and brush by gardiners
agree. fantastically well priced pole. better with the SL xtreme sill brush tho
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The Gardiners Extreme Pole will blow the socks off anything else.
Valuewise it probably trumps the rest as well when you consider the extra productivity it can allow and enhanced hourly rate.
Outside of the initial cost there can be no reason for not having one.I justified mine on health issues alone ,but now, realising the other benefits i previously mentioned,i wish i`d got it sooner.
MY ADVICE,GET THE POLE BEFORE THE PAIN.
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
Thats the belief i was clinging to.
Now you only think of the SLX as luxury because of the INITIAL cost.
If i`d paid £3000 for my extreme 12 months ago i`m sure i would consider it money well spent as my calculations would have the cost recovered and it then paying me.
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
i reckon if you employ then the CLX 22 is the pole to have as it's the best priced and best value pole for the quality you get. so it definitely gets my vote. its a fantastic pole.
however, if i were doing the windows myself i would invest in the Super-Lite Extreme for my long term health.
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
you wont make any more money using a SLX in place of a CLX?
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quick release resi neck
Thats what you need, for yourself.
;D ;D
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Faster for longer,with the extreme its obvious,SLX TO CLX,its there too but a bit more subtle at 18-22ft,obvious at lengths above.
You have no excuses you bully boy employers!
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its true. as an employer I give my staff clx poles (we have super max to) they are a great staff pole for the money. they get battered and are easily replaced.
If I were on the tools all day it would be brand new van, thermopure, big tank, and the extream poles.
It really depends on the individual business. to be honest gardiner poles are so far ahead of any other im suprised other companies sell any poles at all. The reason they do is simply because those window cleaners havnt tried gardiners yet!!
Is there anyone here that has used gardiner poles of any model and gone back to a previous company? I bet not.
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its true. as an employer I give my staff clx poles (we have super max to) they are a great staff pole for the money. they get battered and are easily replaced.
If I were on the tools all day it would be brand new van, thermopure, big tank, and the extream poles.
It really depends on the individual business. to be honest gardiner poles are so far ahead of any other im suprised other companies sell any poles at all. The reason they do is simply because those window cleaners havnt tried gardiners yet!!
Is there anyone here that has used gardiner poles of any model and gone back to a previous company? I bet not.
Just like me, the lads use clx 27, but if I went back to working, I would be the same, SLX and extreme, and overpriced thermopure or Purefreedom hot.
Simply couldn't be doing with constantly repairing and messing around with systems, just would want a plug and go system.
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looks like alex as won
my vote slx/ clx both excellent poles
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Come on guys.... there must be other nominations for the big vote - Best Domestic Water Fed Pole 2012
;)
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I`d avoid these awards altogether if your looking for any potential advertising revenue from other brands and obviously any from Gardiners is unlikely.
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Come on guys.... there must be other nominations for the big vote - Best Domestic Water Fed Pole 2012
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harris pole for its cheapness,versatility,easily replaced, just nip to BQ and your back in business,takes all the knocks,if you get 6 months out of it for £16.00 its a bargain
saying all that GOD I LOVE MY SLX 35 :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I`d avoid these awards altogether if your looking for any potential advertising revenue from other brands and obviously any from Gardiners is unlikely.
That is not what this is about. ;D
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I`d avoid these awards altogether if your looking for any potential advertising revenue from other brands and obviously any from Gardiners is unlikely.
Not sure I understand you??
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looks like alex as won
my vote slx/ clx both excellent poles
Whats a six?
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
I dont agree Lee,
Your talking a staff pole I guess, if so it work be imo the clx 27, the 22 does not hit all windows over cons and skylights.
if it is for a personal pole the SLX wins hands down without question.
when I work I use the SLX so I say this from experience of using it
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unger 2metre trad pole perfect for those hard to reach windows and way cheaper than a slx/clx ;D
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Nomination updates so far. Amazingly Gardiner has 3 poles nominated.
The line up looks like this:
Reach-iT Mini by Clear Vue Solutions
Sim999 by Simpole
CLX by Gardiner
SLX by Gardiner
Super-Lite Extreme by Gardiner
Elite by The Water Fed Pole Company
Grafter by Ionics
Nominations across the forums and through WCM's subscriber list are still on going.
Up dates on the blog www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
you wont make any more money using a SLX in place of a CLX?
I wish that was the case as I could spend less money, but I've gone from an slx to an slx xtreme and find that it's making even more money even on domestics.
I personally think that the slx xtreme 25 is the ultimate pole even for domestics but most would probably bulk at the cost, however I still think its worth it.
If your after other ideas Lee then I would have said 4 years ago the x-tel or the hx-tel but now I wouldn't touch them with a fully extended slx.
Simon.
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
you wont make any more money using a SLX in place of a CLX?
I wish that was the case as I could spend less money, but I've gone from an slx to an slx xtreme and find that it's making even more money even on domestics.
I personally think that the slx xtreme 25 is the ultimate pole even for domestics but most would probably bulk at the cost, however I still think its worth it.
If your after other ideas Lee then I would have said 4 years ago the x-tel or the hx-tel but now I wouldn't touch them with a fully extended slx.
Simon.
hey simon,
what is it about the SLX Xtreme that makes you earn more money then? i;m not being pedantic, i;m just interested in your experience
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I like the new yellow extender, they have alsochanged the shape of the pole, the sections are kind of triangular to stop them spinning, great idea.
£65 for the blank, bargain...
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ive been using facelift for a good few years now BUT ive just got myself a slx 25 and only used this for 1 day and imho the slx is better than facelift .
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im probley on 2 1/2 -3 years on my slx 18 .. now and it still works spot on, clamps work great .. before i was wearing out a pole a year easy ..
SLX for me
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SLX 25 for me
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i imagine by all the votes on here that the slx will be the best top
of the end pole.
the best value for money pole though has to be the harris its not perfect
but for £15 you wont get a better starter pole
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
you wont make any more money using a SLX in place of a CLX?
I wish that was the case as I could spend less money, but I've gone from an slx to an slx xtreme and find that it's making even more money even on domestics.
I personally think that the slx xtreme 25 is the ultimate pole even for domestics but most would probably bulk at the cost, however I still think its worth it.
If your after other ideas Lee then I would have said 4 years ago the x-tel or the hx-tel but now I wouldn't touch them with a fully extended slx.
Simon.
hey simon,
what is it about the SLX Xtreme that makes you earn more money then? i;m not being pedantic, i;m just interested in your experience
It's to do with the rigidity and control of the pole, not just the lightness. For instance you can clean ground floor windows a lot faster than 1st or 2nd floor. Using an slx or slx xtreme doing upstairs windows is just as easy and nearly as fast as doing downstairs. Of course sticking a lighter brush on the end of a pole will help to improve a poles performance, but from having used glass fibres for years, the slx for years and now the xtreme for 8 months I can say without a doubt that you get an increase in speed.
Simon.
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Nomination updates so far. Amazingly Gardiner has 3 poles nominated.
The line up looks like this:
Reach-iT Mini by Clear Vue Solutions
Sim999 by Simpole
CLX by Gardiner
SLX by Gardiner
Super-Lite Extreme by Gardiner
Elite by The Water Fed Pole Company
Grafter by Ionics
Nominations across the forums and through WCM's subscriber list are still on going.
Up dates on the blog www.windowcleaningmagazine.co.uk
This is like a Russian election.
Just give it to Gardiners and stop messing about! ;D
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We now have nominations for Face Lift Fushion, Ionics Gyder, and the Tucker pole
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sorry everyone that has said slx you are all wrong
the slx is a luxury pole, its not cheap at any length.
If you actually weigh up all the things in the origional post then the winner has to be the clx 22
luxury when you earn £30+ a hour
you wont make any more money using a SLX in place of a CLX?
I wish that was the case as I could spend less money, but I've gone from an slx to an slx xtreme and find that it's making even more money even on domestics.
I personally think that the slx xtreme 25 is the ultimate pole even for domestics but most would probably bulk at the cost, however I still think its worth it.
If your after other ideas Lee then I would have said 4 years ago the x-tel or the hx-tel but now I wouldn't touch them with a fully extended slx.
Simon.
hey simon,
what is it about the SLX Xtreme that makes you earn more money then? i;m not being pedantic, i;m just interested in your experience
It's to do with the rigidity and control of the pole, not just the lightness. For instance you can clean ground floor windows a lot faster than 1st or 2nd floor. Using an slx or slx xtreme doing upstairs windows is just as easy and nearly as fast as doing downstairs. Of course sticking a lighter brush on the end of a pole will help to improve a poles performance, but from having used glass fibres for years, the slx for years and now the xtreme for 8 months I can say without a doubt that you get an increase in speed.
Simon.
thanks simon :)
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Ok I'll nominate the xtel 22.
(not because it's any good, but because I want my name in print in your magazine) :)
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SLX
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Gardiner Pole Systems SL-X 25ft, good price/quality ratio. Excellent length for domestic and good weight. My original one is still going strong (4 years)
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The clx's i bought are holding up well. Mind you its probably because there not getting smashed about over gates, extentsions and conservatory roofs!
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Keep the nominations coming ;D
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I'm with Simon - XTREME 25 WITH EXTENSION
Yes,not the cheapest clearly,but it clearly is the ultimate performance pole you can get!I've had universal,xtel,hxtel,clx,slx but the xtreme is clearly the winner when it comes to weight(or lack of) and rigidity.
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We now have nominations for Face Lift Fushion, Ionics Gyder, and the Tucker pole
All of those people don't know what an SL-X is lol.
Seriously though, Tucker?? ;D :-X
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Seriously though, Tucker?? ;D :-X
Tucker made that nomination! ;D
Seriously though, it's like a rigged vote. We all know who is going to win. :P
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harris pole. 15 quid for a bomb proof 17 foot pole.
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harris pole. 15 quid for a bomb proof 17 foot pole.
I reckon Harris should come second. ;D
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harris pole. 15 quid for a bomb proof 17 foot pole.
If the Harris had decent clamps the sellers could quadruple the price and it would still be worth every penny.
Sadly in my opinion the clamps let it down.