Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on February 04, 2012, 07:39:43 pm
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So away from the mad lady, what are the best mobile apps with cloud backup
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We are all too thick to realise that its been in front of us for 6 years. :-X
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midas lol
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We are all to thick to realise that its been in front of us for 6 years. :-X
;D
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I dont know if there are any out there, if there is well its not well promoted. If there was enough interest and people willing to preorder I would build an industry specific app... Balls in your court boys.
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the is a old 1 thats been out for 6 years, but its S%!t and no one likes it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
the help if it go's tits up full of p up house wives
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We keep going round and round in squares, hic
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I am being serious, I would build an app with all your input so it would have all the features needed....
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We keep going round and round in squares, hic
;D
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There's an iPhone app?
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I am being serious, I would build an app with all your input so it would have all the features needed....
Think long and hard before you commit to that.
You might think, like canvassing, it's easy, but think of the back up side before you even think about offering a product.
People will rely on your product to run their business, and if there's a problem, or something they can't figure out, you can't just run and hide.
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Aworka works well on my Iphone, Ipad and computer
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I have built apps in the past....
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Aworka works well on my Iphone, Ipad and computer
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I am being serious, I would build an app with all your input so it would have all the features needed....
Think long and hard before you commit to that.
You might think, like canvassing, it's easy, but think of the back up side before you even think about offering a product.
People will rely on your product to run their business, and if there's a problem, or something they can't figure out, you can't just run and hide.
I would read between the lines of wcp being no more and I heard George saying that the programme doesn't earn money (a few years ago) and with that it's a dead duck as a business.
Window cleaners are too tight (Also words of other suppliers) :)
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Whens wcp s cloud thing done?
I think the problem with wc software is that 99% of wcs only need a pen to run there tax dodging rounds
THe few guys who need software are exactly that FEW
So theres no base for a business
Where the companies that make the software are ballsing up is specialising too much, they shoud generalise it a bit for afew industries maybe gardeners, milk rounds and anything esle that would fit and then give us more customisation options so we can specify it ourselves
maybe
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I just use my calander on my iphone works well enough for me and then get an accounts book from whsmith and back it all up in that and put a star next to awaiting payments when they come in i tick em off
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keep it simple if you have 300 customers or less. guys like steve cm or lee pryors might need a system that works better but for standard domestic guys with around 200 to 300 accounts a pen works great
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I would only commit to the project if enough people came on board and preordered the app. There is a world wide market for apps and people clean windows all over the world so I am sure its feasable. It probably woundnt make millions but would make a good addition to my business....
As for people using pen and paper its what I did but if the right product was there I would have bought it....
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There is a market for this software if u know somebody who can do apps might be worth an investment.
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yeah but get your sales staff trained not to abuse the potential customers and tell them they are stupid etc. also it may be a good idea to get them to stay sober or stop posting after 7 pm ;D ;D
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I think I would look after the sales and marketing myself lol I think there is a market there but would need pre orders and would want to find out exactly what window cleaners wanted and more importantly needed...
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I think I would look after the sales and marketing myself lol I think there is a market there but would need pre orders and would want to find out exactly what window cleaners wanted and more importantly needed...
I disagree.
See Sean Dyers post above. I'd guess that:-
90% of window cleaners are happy with pen / paper.
8% of window cleaners use some type of computer based round management.
2%* of window cleaners want / need a cloud based management programme.
* 2% is probably way overestimating it. Could be as low as 0.1%
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I would only commit to the project if enough people came on board and preordered the app. There is a world wide market for apps and people clean windows all over the world so I am sure its feasable. It probably woundnt make millions but would make a good addition to my business....
As for people using pen and paper its what I did but if the right product was there I would have bought it....
So you'd only do it if people committed up front?
Dont you have confidence in your ability to make a product that will do everything that is required by users?
If you build it they will come.
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Do other companies not test the market before they launch a product concept? And as for the percentages, it would only need a small percentage of all the window cleaners in the world to be a success...
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good point
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Do other companies not test the market before they launch a product concept? And as for the percentages, it would only need a small percentage of all the window cleaners in the world to be a success...
Havent had to pay Gardiners, Brodex, WCP, WCW, or anyone of the other numerous suppliers we use, an up front fee to develop the products we buy from them, so why would we need to pay you?
I don't get it?
Yes, research the product demand and requirements, but charge up front?! Dont see why you would require it if you can do what you say.
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Concept I know you have an issue with me and thats fair enough, but where did I say prepay? I said preorder....
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How would an app work? Wouldn't that just be for an individual to work from? How could that be centralized so that multiple users have it? Still would want to be able to invoice off of a main computer etc?
Anyone have ideas?
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Concept I know you have an issue with me and thats fair enough, but where did I say prepay? I said preorder....
What makes you say I have an issue with you? I'm merely saying, do it, if you can.
My mistake then, but when I preorder something, I generally have to pay for it, or a percentage of it.
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Concept I know you have an issue with me and thats fair enough, but where did I say prepay? I said preorder....
Different words, same meaning.
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How would an app work? Wouldn't that just be for an individual to work from? How could that be centralized so that multiple users have it? Still would want to be able to invoice off of a main computer etc?
Anyone have ideas?
You will find out soon enough I'm sure!
Get that new machine working hard quick time.
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Not getting into it on here but you seem to be taking great issue with what I am proposing.
I would ask for preorders so I could judge the market and then work with the people who preordered to build and test the product. I would offer a free trial so wouldnt ask for any money up front.
Clear enough?
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Be a while off yet I'm sure :)
I'm just wondering how it could work as I'm intrigued to know as it sounds like it still would need to have a central system for invoicing, accounts etc.
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Great issue?
Hardly a great issue. Simply stating if you have the tools to make it, make it.
See..build it and they will come.
Preorder means prepay in my book, maybe not in yours, simply a misunderstanding George. Nothing personal, but take it how you will.
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The app would simply be the interface between the user and the server. There would be a central database that could be accessed from any internet abled device as well as the app.
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Not getting into it on here but you seem to be taking great issue with what I am proposing.
I would ask for preorders so I could judge the market and then work with the people who preordered to build and test the product. I would offer a free trial so wouldnt ask for any money up front.
Clear enough?
Sorry gd but this doesn't make sense.
If you ask people to preorder but not make any financial commitment then how is that in any way testing the market?
Every member on this site could preorder, with no interest of buying your new app that cost you £10k to bring to Market, then go and buy another similar product.
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Be a while off yet I'm sure :)
I'm just wondering how it could work as I'm intrigued to know as it sounds like it still would need to have a central system for invoicing, accounts etc.
At a guess...and it would be a guess, you would have different devices that could be synced instantly, end of day or week or whatever, uploading all info to the cloud, that the master user could see at any time?
No idea, but I know hat I mean, and I'm sure it would be possible.
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Yes but it would give me some indication of what the interest would be, also the preorders would have chance to input in how the product works and also test the product. If they are involved and like what they have helped to develop then they will buy it.
It would be worse if I just sat down with my developer and built the product without asking any other window cleaners what they want and need.
Its market research...
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I’d looked in to doing a app but to get a professional to build me one i got quoted about 5k and when i posted on her people just laughed at me so i did one for my self using filemaker and filemaker go and using dropbox to back it up. This still cost me £300 and a lot of time.
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Just had a look at Aworka, rather pleased with that. Up until now Ive been a dedicated pen and paper man. I think I'll load all my round on to it and give it a go.
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The app would simply be the interface between the user and the server. There would be a central database that could be accessed from any internet abled device as well as the app.
So really the app is a small part it still would be a cloud base system.
I still don't like the sound of something that needs to run by the net when out in the sticks etc. not unless it was something that could run on the handset until the signal is picked up again.
I know Kate (the crazy woman) as someone said is part of this cloud technology. My own personal view is that the interface isn't great on midas but it works. I guess if there was an app to talk to that it may work. I have seen it work on mobiles so I know it's 80% there. Maybe an app could be coded to work with that
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Yes but it would give me some indication of what the interest would be, also the preorders would have chance to input in how the product works and also test the product. If they are involved and like what they have helped to develop then they will buy it.
It would be worse if I just sat down with my developer and built the product without asking any other window cleaners what they want and need.
Its market research...
Somebody 'expressing an interest' is different to somebody "preordering" though.
One involves a financial commitment and the other one doesn't.
I'll be interested to see if you get it off the ground though.
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Hi Steve,
The app would work without an internet connection and you could just back it up at the end of the day.
There are loads of issues that would need sorting before the product could even start to be built but the cloud based database is simple enough. Then would develop apps for iphone/ipod touch/ipad, android and maybe even blackberry but that would depend on demand...
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Deeege it does not matter and not going over the same point again and again...
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Ok. But I was only responding to your post.
Good luck with it anyway.
I would ask for preorders so I could judge the market and then work with the people who preordered to build and test the product. I would offer a free trial so wouldnt ask for any money up front.
Clear enough?
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I understand people have issues and rightly so but all I want to do is build a product with the help of my target audience. I wont want any money up front and I will fund it all myself. Thats even if I decide to go ahead.
I got involved in this thread because alot of people want and ask for an app based solution so if anyone has any ideas what they would want the app to do please get in touch.....
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There is a market for this software if u know somebody who can do apps might be worth an investment.
I can have one done for your business in less than a couple of weeks, dependant on what you want
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You trying to hijack me? Lol
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You trying to hijack me? Lol
nah, I am alot more blatent ;D
if you get the job call me :-*
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I dont know what surprises me more, that you still on at this time or that I know you here lol
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I dont know what surprises me more, that you still on at this time or that I know you here lol
hahaha, George, don't feel bad, your worse than me for working ;) although I am going to chillout and watch the tv till my water is made ;)
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Why are you making water?
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Why are you making water?
because I am odd
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I already knew that but still dont answer the question lol