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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Catherine10 on February 04, 2012, 05:34:37 pm
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Look guys and gals, I am so frustrated about the I want the round on my iphone, so you must understand my predicament. You guys keep asking for something that already exists. Can you see how frustrating it is? It reflects in how I react to something........ the same questions keep arising when there is something already out there.... If anybody wants to talk to us thats fine - but it just seems that we are going round in loops about something on your Iphone, that already exists
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huh ?!
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Hey, have you started early tonight? ;D
Frustrated or not I need to like the company or business that I am going to deal with and last night you were strange.
I always thought you were telesales
Good of you to apologize though.
Art
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Yes, thats my business. For sure - but it dazzles me when people keep asking for stuff on their phone that already exists has existed for 6 years, thats very frustrating
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Yes, thats my business. For sure - but it dazzles me when people keep asking for stuff on their phone that already exists has existed for 6 years, thats very frustrating
tbh Catherine if people are asking for things that have been about for years, then the people doing this stuff really need to have a look at the way they advertise what they do as it is clearly failing in a very big way, and allows other to step in and exploit this failing, do you not think ?
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Can you see that halfadaylee something already exists? and people keep going round in circles??? Its on the Iphone its on the Ipad its on the android its on everything, and the you get a question, does anybody know of an app? wouldnt it drive you round the bend
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Can you see that halfadaylee something already exists? and people keep going round in circles??? Its on the Iphone its on the Ipad its on the android its on everything, and the you get a question, does anybody know of an app? wouldnt it drive you round the bend
you will get used to alot of things on here driving you round the bend, but you do get used to it after a few years ;D
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?? whats she talking about
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WW As a company that have provided cloud solutions for a long time its very trying.
I can give anyone on here passwords into the system to see on the Iphone or any phone with a screen quite a sensitive subject with a company that has been running in the cloud for a long time. You know, window cleaners talk about "messers" weve had our fair few
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right im with ya now :)
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Frustrated housewife ???
What she is babbling on about is that her other half invented a system (like George) that doesn't sell for some reason and she needs someone to talk about it and post links all over this forum because she's not allowed. Apparently it runs on an iphone etc. Been about for a while but nobody seems to buy it. Don't know why.
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Mark Etting you have you got an Iphone next to you?
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www.collectmyround.co.uk
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I have
There's a whole section on Matts forum that nobody looks at.
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I've got an Ipad but what are you going on about?
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will it work on my nokia
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cool
put this into your iphone
http://www.midas-demo.acacia-technologies.co.uk/iphone/m_login.php
login code
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katebaker
katebaker
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Are you in Matt?
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::) ::)
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Sorry,should have been ::) ::)
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WTF is going on with the smileys?? Should have been the rolley eyes in responce to this loon.
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am I in what? Going out for an Indian in a moment. I'll let somebody else play about and ask all the tech questions and price. ;)
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lmao ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What she on looks a load of tat
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yep another lillets moment ;)
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I would advise you to put some false records on there so we can actually see how it works, and sort the design.
For someone in sales you have a very strange way of promoting your product.
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i logged on using my android phone looks okas it happens .if you are looking for a mobile system it looks ok
but i would need to know cost
but tome a pen and sheet is quicker
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Oh God, I've just read last nights thread - I'm outa here!
Just get my straight jacket, byeeeee.
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i logged on using my android phone looks okas it happens .if you are looking for a mobile system it looks ok
but i would need to know cost
but tome a pen and sheet is quicker
Quicker than a call or text? ;D
Give her a break, chaps. But I can't see the problem in asking about a system that already exists.
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Ok its clear now, you've started early.
ww is spot on perhaps there are better software solutions for our business. The last time I looked at your site and it was a long time ago, it did not seem relevant to this industry. I don't know whether any specific research was done for your product and our industry, but to say its cloud based and can be run on smart phones is not be everything we need
Finally its how its sold to me, hissy fits, deleted accounts and name changes does not make me warm to you or the product, this may be my loss but there are other alternatives
Art
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Sorry,should have been ::) ::)
Fail ;D
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I have
There's a whole section on Matts forum that nobody looks at.
You got away with the words Matts forum. Dave on holiday?
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Look guys and gals, I am so frustrated about the I want the round on my iphone, so you must understand my predicament. You guys keep asking for something that already exists. Can you see how frustrating it is? It reflects in how I react to something........ the same questions keep arising when there is something already out there.... If anybody wants to talk to us thats fine - but it just seems that we are going round in loops about something on your Iphone, that already exists
You on about using Google docs? !! Its great ;D
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Um so who is logged on with the codes I just gave, and who is asking what to do next, guys really and this is what drives me insane log on with the codes I have given you and I will walk you through the system its quite easy rather than going on about is there an app is there this. IT ALREADY EXISTS and this is why im getting a little fed up
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Sorry,should have been ::) ::)
Fail ;D
:-[
Lets see if that works :D
Bloody hoofing it down with snow now mate....
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I logged on and there is no data on there so hard to see how it works, and the design looks very basic. Would forgive the design if could see the functionality...
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Gd select round 1 week 1 and monday its only test data it will come up on your phone,
You will then have four sections on the phone at the top left. Which will be schedule, accounts, collections they will be in blue on the top left You can then select house number and how much they owe you, this is test data GD
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Um so who is logged on with the codes I just gave, and who is asking what to do next, guys really and this is what drives me insane log on with the codes I have given you and I will walk you through the system its quite easy rather than going on about is there an app is there this. IT ALREADY EXISTS and this is why im getting a little fed up
You're drunk not frustrated !!!
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Mike No, this industry keeps going round in circles "I want this on my ipone" I want this, I want this on my android - when are you going to get the point its already out there and that is what gets me slightly fed up, Its there and has been for a long time.
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How much a month?
Isit easy to add new custys?
Ca you print schedule out aswell incase phone battery goes dead?
Can you tick work off when done?
Can you add if you have been paid or not?
If you miss any from the day before are they then scheduled for the next day?
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I agree there are better ways of promoting a business. Maybe it got everyone's attention though. Wether it was good or bad :D
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So nobody serious um..............its on your mobile already - I just dont understand why you guys dont get this???????????
Choices choices
Im trying to be helpful and just getting slated, given you the log in codes, I just dont get it to be honest, oh well not much owt I can do
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Instead of getting emotional Kate why don't you invite everyone who is interested to demo it? Or set up a video on YouTube so people can see easily how it functions.
Then maybe people would get the product :)
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Is Catherine 12 about to appear?
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try answering the questions i just asked you,maybe i would be interested?
But looking at it,it doesn't look great but if you tell people more what it does we may be interested.
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Dunno Steve youve seen it on the mobile, its up on youtube why are we running around in circles about a browser application that already exists. Next post "has anybody got an application that runs on an iphone" Cest tres tres tiresome, when its been up for 6 years.
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Catherine I think people seriously prefer the thought of an app rather than cloud based record keeping. Maybe there's not a great deal of difference in the practicalities but there certainly is regarding the security. I for one wouldn't want all of my database details stored where someone else could access them and that certainly looks the case here.
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Doc windows, it a ticky box on your phone to say the job is done, paid, not paid, prepaid,
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I have seen it yes but as your trying to show others why not be clear and precise about the product? Your apologizing for ranting and then ranting again. Take a chill pill and talk about the product. Some people might find it interesting.
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well i tried and asked a few questions but no real reply....so im out
i will get George online,a name i can trust!
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A free working trial period might encourage people to try it.
Otherwise I don't think you have got much of a chance of getting people to buy into it.
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Catherine please look at how you are coming across, do you not think alex gardiner gets asked the same questions time after time? I know I do. You just deal with it in a professional manner and you might just gain a few customers.
What people want is an app that works on their phone with cloud back up, if you ever want to talk about another approach to this product email me...
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Gosh George thank you for your advice after 21 years in sales and 11 self employed dont patronise me
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looks ok are you trying to sell this catherine . cause you are not answering questions about it sort the details out . you might get interest. i like the auto email idea
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After all that experience I would expect more, not getting into an arguement so will leave it there. Good luck
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Gosh George thank you for your advice after 21 years in sales and 11 self employed dont patronise me
So 22 happy years then
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Gosh George thank you for your advice after 21 years in sales and 11 self employed dont patronise me
21 years in Sales ;D
Ranting when drunk is not going to work
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Gosh George thank you for your advice after 21 years in sales and 11 self employed dont patronise me
wow. great answer. that showed him.
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I agree there are better ways of promoting a business. Maybe it got everyone's attention though. Wether it was good or bad :D
;)
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Gosh George thank you for your advice after 21 years in sales and 11 self employed dont patronise me
Well the way your carrying on you wouldn't think so would you
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I dont mind any questions relating to the product at all but I need you guys to take it seriously and log on with the codes I have given you and then ask me - is that fair? I posted to say I was sorry and just getting more abuse. Ive given you the codes log in and then ask - You have to log in with the codes that I have given you, without doing that you wont know what the system has been doing for 6 years. I really am trying to be helpful here
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Mike No, this industry keeps going round in circles "I want this on my ipone" I want this, I want this on my android - when are you going to get the point its already out there and that is what gets me slightly fed up, Its there and has been for a long time.
Right, sorry about that, i'm up to speed now, seen the other threads. You don't make it easy to follow though....'this industry' actually equates to a few individuals asking?
Google docs still does spreadsheets and other docs all for free. All in the Cloud as you say, accesible from anywhere, real time editing and collaboration too.
I'm sure you've a great product.
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Yes it works the same as google
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Instead of getting emotional Kate why don't you invite everyone who is interested to demo it? Or set up a video on YouTube so people can see easily how it functions.
Then maybe people would get the product :)
Ding ding ^
Good advice.
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We already have but seems a great phrase in this industry "messers"
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What?
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What Matt no"messers"?
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I didnt understand what this was a response to. It sounds like you're responding to someone but couldn't work out what to.
We already have but seems a great phrase in this industry "messers"
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What Matt no"messers"?
only nutters
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I dont mind any questions relating to the product at all but I need you guys to take it seriously and log on with the codes I have given you and then ask me - is that fair? I posted to say I was sorry and just getting more abuse. Ive given you the codes log in and then ask - You have to log in with the codes that I have given you, without doing that you wont know what the system has been doing for 6 years. I really am trying to be helpful here
Not that I'm looking for a cloud based app to manage my round anyway, but out of interest I logged in to the view this anyway.
Some honest views are:-
Firstly how are we supposed to get a feel for this if there is no data entered? Atleast spend an hour adding som false data to give possible customers a general idea of how the software navigates / shows data etc.
Secondly, I can tell the software is ~6 years old. Has it been redesigned / brought upto date at all since it was created. Looking at it honestly makes my eyes bleed and needs some serious design attention.
Please take this as constructive criticism as it is intended btw.
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degee hold up dont jump the gun ask me youve logged in. Ok. Go to round 1 week 1 monday
In the top left hand corner you should have four/five options sch coll accts etc?
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i feel for you, give the lady a chance but you do need to give a better demo of what this product can do/ cost etc
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Bless you Andrew
How frustrating is it when over and over and over and over again "is there something on the mobile" Ive tried hammering it home for four years that there is and it still carries on
Anybody would be frustrated.
It seems a no win situation. Until the next question pops up " is there a programme on my mobile" four years later lol
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How much does what you have on the market cost Catherine?
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Instead of getting emotional Kate why don't you invite everyone who is interested to demo it? Or set up a video on YouTube so people can see easily how it functions.
Then maybe people would get the product :)
NOt followed the post but i dont remember kate ever coming on line and saying
"guys , you are window cleaners, here is our software for wcs it works on smart phones - try it out now free"
Your getting mad that we didnt read your mind
My wife does that all the time , its very annoying
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Matt log in and have a look first, Have a look on the mobile and then on the desktop play around with the system. It will come in around 30 a month with three users, backup and support 24/7 - problems sorted directly, down days are rare, dont think there has been one in 6 years. Have a little look, add a customer, do a search open in firefox - the same will appear on your mobile, drop down menu. Did you get the log in codes that I posted on the mobile side?
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this is really strange. there must be some drugs involved here.
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THe only drug anyone on this post should be taking is hrt
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1328390474_popcorn.gif)
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i will be having george online. ;D
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Aworka works fine for me, £10 per month ;D along with George for a one-off fee and regular FREE updates ;D
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I could be wrong but my guess is S H E ' S P I S S E D A G A I N ;D ;D
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C 10 - sorry i don't usually get involved with this sort of thread, however looking at your posts on the
other thread you are totally out of order and my guess would be it's your attitude that has held back the
software just as much as how poor the 'demo' works
i know you have managed to get into deep issues previously but your coming across just like ALEX ( Tecbuk )
if you've been in sales as long as you say then your posts and reply's should be far slicker than they are.
do you not think we all get the same questions asked ? - 'my windows are wet, will they dry ok' - cleaned WFP - perhaps next time a customer asks this i should tell them where i may now insert my pole and brush ! - great for customer relations but no i smile and patiently (again) explain how it works...
get my drift ??
you have got to a stage where you cant see the wood from the trees - take some time out reflect on how your coming across and start again
Darran
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I could be wrong but my guess is S H E ' S P I S S E D A G A I N ;D ;D
or she having a COZY night in
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So it's £30 a month did she say? Probably why nobody wants it I would imagine.
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Very nice try Catherine10 at shock marketing....another pooe american marketing technique.
Still i suppose it worked to a degree getting everyone talking and looking....well more so than if you hadn't started the thread in the first place...
I tried this style a few years ago with some leaflets....
YOUR WINDOWS ARE DIRTY...
IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO LIVE...FINE
IF NOT GIVE ME A CALL.....
it worked to a degree as well.... ;D ;D
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No it wasnt shock marketing, I genuinely feel very embarrassed and very stupid. I am very sorry about kicking off. Will stay away for a while..... Once again truly am very sorry. I feel a complete idiot
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Why can't George go on an iphone? What's the reason?
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Why can't George go on an iphone? What's the reason?
isnt george windows based ?
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WOW! I just read this tread with my gob wide open ;D
Catherine10 the way I see it you need to think hard about how you promote your product.
instead of getting your knickers in a twist when people say "is there anything for the Iphone" you should see it as a serious failing in your advertising department and deal with it. Perhaps you need to employ someone to deal with promotion?
I have been using this forum since 2003 and have read the same questions a thousand times. That's what newbies do. If they cant see what they are looking for THEY ASK!
I was about to look at your product until someone said its £30 a month. I dont see why I should pay that much for something when there is a fantastic alternative for a fraction of the price. I bet most guys feel the same way.
George has been a runaway success for one reason. PRICE! George did not need to advertise, as it was so cheap and did a great job it built its reputation on referrals.
If you are not getting referrals or new enquiries and get frustrated when people ask for a product you provide you are doing something wrong.
IMO :)
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Does anyone know of a good window cleaning app that I can use on my mobile?
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hi Ross
I think George might do it ?
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hi Ross
I think George might do it ?
;D
Thanks Dave.
With a straight forwards answer like that, you should be a salesman. Have you ever thought about taking up being window cleaner? You might do ok.
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I tried to be a window cleaner but everyone copied me.
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On a serious note, please go easy on Catherine, she's not a bad person, just gets drunk occassionally, as we all know, Cleanitup and alchohol do not mix.
Please try to give her a bit of slack when she arrives back today.
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I don't know why she seems to get such a hard time and some others don't?
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Now in the light of day, can I explain what I mean. I feel mortified about what I said. But like yourselves there are many complaints about being messed around, whether its money, customers.... we also get messed around. Set up appointments at a particular time, arrange demonstrations and nobody picks the phone up. Issue log in codes - then people dont go on the system, So its equally as frustrating for our business. I have no problem whatsoever people saying im going to write something for the iphone, but when we give details out to people and they dont look, dont answer the phone etc can you see how that makes us feel, we do try and help and will bend over backwards for anybody who needs it, but it is a two way street. Also some of you will know that I have my own business telesales within this inudstry - so I will always have your best interests at heart.
I hope that explains it better
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Now in the light of day, can I explain what I mean. I feel mortified about what I said. But like yourselves there are many complaints about being messed around, whether its money, customers.... we also get messed around. Set up appointments at a particular time, arrange demonstrations and nobody picks the phone up. Issue log in codes - then people dont go on the system, So its equally as frustrating for our business. I have no problem whatsoever people saying im going to write something for the iphone, but when we give details out to people and they dont look, dont answer the phone etc can you see how that makes us feel, we do try and help and will bend over backwards for anybody who needs it, but it is a two way street.
I hope that explains it better
i cant see what the problem is. what you describe are normal service industry situations. if you have communication problems and it starts to make you aggressive then you may want to get some advice from someone in a similar industry to help you cope with every day business of dealing with human beings.
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having read your edit about telesales. forgive me if i would rather not have potential customers called by someone who needs anger management after 7 pm.
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Now in the light of day, can I explain what I mean. I feel mortified about what I said. But like yourselves there are many complaints about being messed around, whether its money, customers.... we also get messed around. Set up appointments at a particular time, arrange demonstrations and nobody picks the phone up. Issue log in codes - then people dont go on the system, So its equally as frustrating for our business. I have no problem whatsoever people saying im going to write something for the iphone, but when we give details out to people and they dont look, dont answer the phone etc can you see how that makes us feel, we do try and help and will bend over backwards for anybody who needs it, but it is a two way street. Also some of you will know that I have my own business telesales within this inudstry - so I will always have your best interests at heart.
I hope that explains it better
Kate
Have a look at this forum and others, on all of them you will find a feature to search back posts to find a answer to their questions.
In the majority of cases they don't use it, instead they post topics, so we end up with mulitiple topics about the same question all the time.
So when someone asks your question, then all you have to do is post a link back to the original question with offers to help if they have further questions, job done.
On your test site, why not make it open for everyone to access and play with, without the need to register or input pass codes.
You will be surprised how many people do not want to give out their details when they are just "window shopping
" if they want more information they will ask.
Both the George and Aworka programme are simple to use, we are window cleaners and we don't want over complicated.
Both programmes also have a free trial periods, we can then play with them on a daily basis, normally for a month to see if its what we want.
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Hydro
Good post
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Hydro
Good post
OMG ::) praise at last ;D
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Hi Hydro,
Thank you for that.
We don't ask for details, we just issue passwords, guys can then look round etc. But if there is something thats not understood, it would be appreciated if somebody would just say I dont understand X can you explain, thats all really. Plus because there is a live side on the desktop, it sort of needs to be shown - and we can only really do that on the phone.
Thanks good post Hydro.
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Still haven't really mentioned the cost yet clearly.
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Sorry Mark £30 per month for upto 3 users
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What happens when you pull your phone or tablet out to discover that you have either no data connection or only a 2g data connection. You would then be spending 5 minutes trying to accept a payment from a customer because the cloud based system wouldn't work properly. Anything that is cloud based through a web browser isnt going to work 100% of the time out on the road. You might think that this isn't a big deal but if someone is dealing with 50 customers a day then they want something more reliable.
Instead of using browsers like safari or chrome write apps that can back the data up to the handset and then people won't be affected by data connection issues. I'm personnally waiting to see what the next version of FileMaker has to offer. At the moment there are no cloud based apps that would work well with window cleaning unless you can absolutely guarantee your data connection.
Simon.
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WOW! I just read this tread with my gob wide open ;D
Catherine10 the way I see it you need to think hard about how you promote your product.
instead of getting your knickers in a twist when people say "is there anything for the Iphone" you should see it as a serious failing in your advertising department and deal with it. Perhaps you need to employ someone to deal with promotion?
I have been using this forum since 2003 and have read the same questions a thousand times. That's what newbies do. If they cant see what they are looking for THEY ASK!
I was about to look at your product until someone said its £30 a month. I dont see why I should pay that much for something when there is a fantastic alternative for a fraction of the price. I bet most guys feel the same way.
George has been a runaway success for one reason. PRICE! George did not need to advertise, as it was so cheap and did a great job it built its reputation on referrals.
If you are not getting referrals or new enquiries and get frustrated when people ask for a product you provide you are doing something wrong.
IMO :)
thats a little insulting to the makers of George, they fit a niche at the cheaper end thats for sure, some people don't But nobody would just buy george on price because if it was rubbish it would not sell, they have a good program thats why it sells the price helps to sell to their market or for people to test it's only about 50 quid, I think it is too cheap tbh for what it does.
it is like windwocleaner pro 3 x the price other use this and swear buy it, that because wcp targeted higher end customers. Price can determin the market your in, the cheaper it is the more problems it brings I find.
there will always be cheap and more expensive cheap products can work out expensive long term.
Lets say george was £50 and you spent 5 hours learning it and putting things on it how much has george now cost you because its not £50 people forget this part.
it's like spending hours online to get £5 of an order does this really save money.
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I have problems with getting "online" at times but I just input the data when I can.
I never just rely on being "online" I always take a hard copy of the job sheet with me.
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I`m really pleased to have read this thread as i can self congratulate myself on buying not 1 but 2 page a day diaries from the pound shop.and discovering that pens from Barclays bank will still write in the cold.
The latter information was given to me by a cheque writing customer who then lent me said pen to write out his receipt(£160.00) and it now resides in my van.
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I have problems with getting "online" at times but I just input the data when I can.
I never just rely on being "online" I always take a hard copy of the job sheet with me.
I hear you on that one, thats the only problem about cloud computing if you could not access it, I have this very same problem.
I think the concept is great and I am sure it auto backs up as soon as available, I can see some problems straight away but no more than when taking a hard copy.
I would love to turn everything digital and get rid of paper work as it drives me nuts
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I`m really pleased to have read this thread as i can self congratulate myself on buying not 1 but 2 page a day diaries from the pound shop.and discovering that pens from Barclays bank will still write in the cold.
The latter information was given to me by a cheque writing customer who then lent me said pen to write out his receipt(£160.00) and it now resides in my van.
Ditto! ;D
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I`m really pleased to have read this thread as i can self congratulate myself on buying not 1 but 2 page a day diaries from the pound shop.and discovering that pens from Barclays bank will still write in the cold.
The latter information was given to me by a cheque writing customer who then lent me said pen to write out his receipt(£160.00) and it now resides in my van.
Ditto! ;D
there is no helping you :o
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Having bought George some 8 or 9 years ago, it is in effect a free program at £7.50 a year. It does everything I want and while out and about I use a £10 pda, bought 5 years ago, and it all works fine. No internet connection needed and no expensive mobile although I have one anyway.
Kates program over the same time period would cost £3 000 plus.
For 60 times the price would I use Kate's?
Sorry Kate, I'm not having a go at you and I intend no insult but I think the price is way too expensive.
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No, none taken whatsoever Ross
I think George is brilliant, and I am sure Aworka will be great too.
Think maybe we are more for multiple users - getting the pricing structure right has always been difficult. We have gone over this quite a bit, could we offer for single users? We would have to have a lot of single users......
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Now in the light of day, can I explain what I mean. I feel mortified about what I said. But like yourselves there are many complaints about being messed around, whether its money, customers.... we also get messed around. Set up appointments at a particular time, arrange demonstrations and nobody picks the phone up. Issue log in codes - then people dont go on the system, So its equally as frustrating for our business. I have no problem whatsoever people saying im going to write something for the iphone, but when we give details out to people and they dont look, dont answer the phone etc can you see how that makes us feel, we do try and help and will bend over backwards for anybody who needs it, but it is a two way street. Also some of you will know that I have my own business telesales within this inudstry - so I will always have your best interests at heart.
I hope that explains it better
I think part of the problem is not just about you but about previous let downs on here by others. If someone ends up with too much control (e.g. by renting software out on a per month basis) that gives that person too much say in my business expenditure and software updates IMO - this being especially so if there isn't a viable data export mechanism which would allow an easier transfer to other software.
Another issue I have (not with you particularly but with the more marketing minded people) is that I feel that the window cleaning business can be made unnecessarily complicated.
Personally I prefer to update my records daily when I get home. Much easier using a big screen and a keyboard that actually fits my little fat fingers :)
I imagine your target is people who have or wish to build a larger company than I. As a sole trader I manage OK with MS Works - and version 6 at that which was written some years ago.
I can't help feeling that this thread is about you trying to sell software which is masquerading as an apology. If you want to apologise for something maybe just do it? Not this "I'm sorry and will you buy my software." It can come across as a bit shallow.
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Good post
OMG ::) praise at last ;D
You two should down handbags maybe? ;D
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Aworka is good for muiti uses as well
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Thats fine Paul, but to be honest - no not all trying to sell the software, I have too much on with my own business at the moment, Im sorry genuinely sorry as I was out of order - and as my previous post said, I feel like a complete idiot, not masquerading anything. I dont think I have posted on here about software for a very very long time, If something comes up about telesales, I will try and advise on that - but thats all really. Ive been on ebay advertising, thats gone very well for my business. Also a little bit of time issues get mixed up here Ive been a member I think for probably over four years. Everybody asking then about running a business on a mobile. So some of the new people have probably not seen those older days....... somebody made a comment that has only been a member since April last year. Ive left the software threads alone for a long time now - as I dont want to be accused of being a stalker. Its a bit of a no win situation, If I respond to a software ask, I will get accused of stalking, if I dont nobody will know. Do you see what I mean?
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Thats fine Paul, but to be honest - no not all trying to sell the software, I have too much on with my own business at the moment, Im sorry genuinely sorry as I was out of order - and as my previous post said, I feel like a complete idiot, not masquerading anything. I dont think I have posted on here about software for a very very long time, If something comes up about telesales, I will try and advise on that - but thats all really. Ive been on ebay advertising, thats gone very well for my business. Also a little bit of time issues get mixed up here Ive been a member I think for probably over four years. Everybody asking then about running a business on a mobile. So some of the new people have probably not seen those older days....... somebody made a comment that has only been a member since April last year. Ive left the software threads alone for a long time now - as I dont want to be accused of being a stalker. Its a bit of a no win situation, If I respond to a software ask, I will get accused of stalking, if I dont nobody will know. Do you see what I mean?
ive quoted you this time because you seem to add more onto each post after a few minutes. members can click on any profile and read back posts from you and anyone else. dont know anything about your product and i have no interest. nothing personal, thats just the way it is. some people ask to look at your system and dont get back to you. so what? i knock doors and they say they will think about it. so what?
what you need is more advertising and enough customers to stop you getting frustrated and being aggressive to your potential customers. the reason you get like that is because every customer seems to be a life and death issue. thats because if you had enough customers you wouldnt have time to moan about people not getting back to you to ask questions.
you would be better spreading the word about your product and service and getting too busy to spend all this time saying how sorry you are for being bitchy on a cleaners forum. all the time you spend on here is wasted time that you could put into spreading the word.
they all know you on here now!!! why not go and spread the word on some other medium. as you said, ebay. come back in a few months and let us know how you got on.