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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 07:26:17 pm

Title: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 07:26:17 pm
Hi everyone I have an old Ashcome Elite DL machine1990 ish (Same as early alltec or Extraca machine I think) which i'm just setting up but i'm finding  its really too big to lug up and down stairs , wondered if anyone has tried an extension hose on this model as i'm not sure it would have a powerful enough vacuum pump to run an extra 25 feet of hose. Advice /thoughts appeciated, also wondered if anyone has fitted a bigger vac pump on this model?
Oh can anyone identify what type of vacuum pump the attached  pic shows fitted?
  Cheers Dave
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 07:27:51 pm
 Oh sorry did,nt let me attach the picture of the pump.
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: Jim_77 on January 30, 2012, 07:39:22 pm
The upload folder for this forum is full unfortunately

SOMEONE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FIX IT!!!

In the meantime I would use a free upload site like www.tinypic.com (load of others similar)

Regarding the machine, if memory serves correctly they are a singe 7.2" vac in those machines?  (Measure the diameter!)

With all due respect, if you're doing even a modest amount of carpet cleaning you'd find modern technology has come on a long way since that old girl was built :)

I would be saving my back, legs and arms (and a lot of time) by updating to something with a lot more power that will run 50ft of hose no problem from the ground floor of a house, without having to bring it inside.  Needn't break the bank, but would be a very wise investment.
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 08:07:30 pm
  thanks sure your right too ,I.ve had a days course and just cleaning family and friends to see if carpet cleaning really is for me but its becoming obvious by reading comments on the forum its a well out dated machine, still the power scrubber seems really good which i could use on newer cleaner .

     Cheers Dave
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: John Kelly on January 30, 2012, 08:43:00 pm
Are you blind? :) its fixed just click select files.
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: Kinver_Clean on January 30, 2012, 08:45:34 pm
7.2 units are about as big as you get.
Depending on your engineering skills I would think a new 6.6 unit would go in.
This would probably outperform a 7.2 and run 50 ft of hose.
Meanwhile save up....
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: john martin on January 30, 2012, 08:54:38 pm

 yes , put a pic up you can ... i have no idea what an Ashcome Elite is  :)

Think i used an old alltec elite    , if so id say its an old two stage motor ... 

a pic of the inside would be great ...
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 09:46:07 pm
pics attached this time i hope !
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 10:06:33 pm
Sorry uploader for pics still not working .
thanks for comments tho  Dave
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: john martin on January 30, 2012, 10:08:33 pm
dave ...  as mentioned above  www.tinypic.com

just upload the pic there ..and copy and paste the link it gives you at the end  :)
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 30, 2012, 10:45:41 pm
(http://i43.tinypic.com/xc7odl.jpg)    not sure if this will work
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: john martin on January 30, 2012, 10:58:43 pm
working good ..    but from an upgrade or planing point of view it would be good to have an overall view of the internals . :)


looks like its  this 3 stage 7.2 btw
http://www.vacuumbagstore.co.uk/prod/karcher-motor-lamb-116154-00.html
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: john martin on January 30, 2012, 11:22:25 pm
generally though the options would be ....

The vacuum you have produces  about 450 airwatts of vac power

If you change to this newer 6.6 vac ( as a previous poster suggested )
you will have 650 airwatts   .   To fit it you may have to modify the mounting brackets slightly ...
you also need to get a little tube attached( welded ) to the top of it to fit the vac hose onto ...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lamb-Ametek-6-6-Vacuum-Motor-230-volt-Model-122236-18-/270900062972?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3f12e6eafc

Option B also involves mods ...
Get a 5.7 motor like this one ( it has the same specs as yours but smaller size )
and bolt it in place inside the machine ... then run a hose from this motor to a ' Y ' slpitter and join up with your old motor .... you would also need to fit an on / off switch for the new vac ..
the two vacs together will give you ... 900 airwatts ...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ametek-Premium-3-Stage-Tangential-Discharge-Motor-5-7-240V-1500W-/180765040975?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item2a166fa14f

Option a might be the simplest ....  option b would be cheap if u can do the work yourself  :)
Title: Re: vaccum hose / pump question
Post by: dave archer on January 31, 2012, 08:12:08 am
Thanks for all that infomation got exactly what i wanted from this posting,think i will take the advice and start saving for a new machine but maybe try the vacuum pump mod as i will then have a  back up machine for emergencies.
              thanks Dave