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Title: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 27, 2012, 09:48:59 pm
Any one else employ any Poles?
Good, Bad or indifferent?
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 27, 2012, 09:56:50 pm
A bit stereotypical to throw all poles under the same banner isn't it?

I'm sure some would make great employees and others not so great employees, just like the English/(insert other nationality here).
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: dave0123 on January 27, 2012, 10:09:41 pm
i employ a pole... its an unger one green hair :) does good job though
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Neil Williams on January 27, 2012, 10:10:47 pm
We had one when we did all the window cleaning.
Started off moaning he couldn't do it as fast as the other, of course in the end he was as fast.
Always on time and worked hard earning good money until ............. about 12 months in the attitude started >:(
Wanted/needed more money but wouldn't do the extra work for it.
Needed time off at very short notice (like on the morning) because wife needed to go to doctors about her toe (hardly life threatening)
Demanded this demanded that.

Finally on the 3rd time of threatening to quit, I wrote the resignation letter for him one night and got him to sign it when he arrived for work the next morning ;D

With hindsight I should have just paid him off at that point because he spent the next 7 days without speaking a single word to me, and so it came to pass that he was canvassing our customers to change over to him....... which none did.

Not content with that he then decided to confront my wife one day by waiting for me to drive away before appearing at the front door, but not quick enough for me to turn around and we had a right set to in the street.

Put me right off them for life.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Carl@Cwc on January 27, 2012, 10:14:06 pm
dont think custies would appreciate them around there homes TBH.

specially when the korova korova all day long

ship je korova ,ship je korova  ( hurry up bitch )
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 27, 2012, 10:17:20 pm
Put me right off them for life.

  ???
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Neil Williams on January 27, 2012, 10:28:51 pm
Put me right off them for life.

  ???

Don't get me wrong I didn't have the belief that Poles should be forever grateful for giving them a job, but they are sexist and racist lot and quickly learn how to have the British employee attitude towards employers.
Come to think about it they should be grateful if we give them a job above British people.

And don't forget when they want something that suits them they speak and understand English brilliantly, but can quickly change to "I don't understand" when it doesn't suit them.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 27, 2012, 10:53:53 pm
Nothing in your first post was specific to polish people though, and you still finish your post with "put you off them for life".

If you had said you wouldn't employ another pole because in your experience they are always getting homesick / always using the language barrier to their advantage / constantly needing extended time off to return home, then you would be right to be "put off them for life".

Fwiw my limited experience of poles:-

1, polish guy lives a couple of doors down from me. He's out the house every morning by 5:30 and returns home late at night, 6 days a week, he must work 70 hours +. nice guy and no doubt a great employee.

2, polish guy lives with his mrs opposite a friend of mine. Doesn't work, lives off uk benefits, constanly drunk and likes to knock his mrs about most nights.

Point is, everyone is an individual and should be judged as such imo.

Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: g.brookes on January 27, 2012, 11:11:47 pm
deegee i completely agree.  stereotypes and prejudices are just lazy
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 28, 2012, 01:10:14 am
I agree too.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 06:31:32 am
The Polish have never been any different........even back to WW2, where my Dad served alongside them. Willing to help, willing to work, but once they had "no" said to them it all changed and they would become arrogant and detach themselves to their own little community :)

As with all nationalities you get good you get bad. :)

The main things that bugs me is that they don't seem to want to adapt to live in Britain, ok if you are here temporarily, but not on really if they stay here permanently.

The "I don't understand" really started to get on my nerves after a while, especially when you just knew he did :)
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 06:40:54 am
Nothing in your first post was specific to polish people though, and you still finish your post with "put you off them for life".

If you had said you wouldn't employ another pole because in your experience they are always getting homesick / always using the language barrier to their advantage / constantly needing extended time off to return home, then you would be right to be "put off them for life".

Fwiw my limited experience of poles:-

1, polish guy lives a couple of doors down from me. He's out the house every morning by 5:30 and returns home late at night, 6 days a week, he must work 70 hours +. nice guy and no doubt a great employee.

2, polish guy lives with his mrs opposite a friend of mine. Doesn't work, lives off uk benefits, constanly drunk and likes to knock his mrs about most nights.

Point is, everyone is an individual and should be judged as such imo.



Thought the clue was in the subject of the thread!!

As with all the comments made on this thread, if you take the word polish out of your 2 options, it could relate to any nationality.

The OP asked a question abput Polish workers and he got answers based on peoples own experiences.
(why ask about UK workers when we already know that answer.......good and bad ;D)


Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 28, 2012, 07:13:41 am
You just confirmed EXACTLY the point of my post Helen, everyone is different regardless of nationality.

(which btw was more aimed at the guy who had a problem polish employee rather than the OP, but I made that perfectly clear)
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Steven Lawrence on January 28, 2012, 07:41:26 am
Personally i still think the majority of british workers are the best you can get!! we used to employ poles when we had a building company (cheap labour) turned out very costly! my fault for being greedy...
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steveo22 on January 28, 2012, 07:57:59 am
I think it is an insult to our country and people to employ a Pole over a Brit, there are plently of good, honest, hard working British lads looking for employment, the only reason people employ Poles is because they are cheap, why are they cheap, because they get every benefit going, a council house waiting for them when they get to this country, plus the money goes back home into their economy!!! They are wasters, I used to live in a house next door to a rented place, which was rented to Poles (Eastern Europeans) A different family there every week, hundreds came and went, nothing but trouble, no respect for anyone around them, filthy living, bottle of Vodka for breakfast, lunch and dinner, oh and to top it off, just after we moved (after years of agro with them) we realised that it was a drug den after someone died from a drug overdose!!! Sorry if you disagree but I've seen it first hand, never met a decent one and doubt I ever will!!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 08:07:33 am
You just confirmed EXACTLY the point of my post Helen, everyone is different regardless of nationality.

Totally agree :)
I know where you are coming from :)
(which btw was more aimed at the guy who had a problem polish employee rather than the OP, but I made that perfectly clear)

As the thread title suggests this is about experiences with polish employees, it just so happens that most of the comments could in fact relate to "anyone", but on this thread relate to the Polish employees that people may have had.
The "guy" who had a problem polish employee, gave his experiences as have others. All relating to experiences as the subject suggests.
The "guy" who had a problem polish employee, also had problem UK/other nationality employees, but the thread title didn't ask for these experiences. ;D (thankfully as the pages would now be at 5 or more ;D ;D)

Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 08:09:24 am
I think it is an insult to our country and people to employ a Pole over a Brit, there are plently of good, honest, hard working British lads looking for employment, the only reason people employ Poles is because they are cheap, why are they cheap, because they get every benefit going, a council house waiting for them when they get to this country, plus the money goes back home into their economy!!! They are wasters, I used to live in a house next door to a rented place, which was rented to Poles (Eastern Europeans) A different family there every week, hundreds came and went, nothing but trouble, no respect for anyone around them, filthy living, bottle of Vodka for breakfast, lunch and dinner, oh and to top it off, just after we moved (after years of agro with them) we realised that it was a drug den after someone died from a drug overdose!!! Sorry if you disagree but I've seen it first hand, never met a decent one and doubt I ever will!!


OO'er get the hard hat and run for cover ;D ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: windiewasher on January 28, 2012, 08:15:56 am
I used to be in charge of about 100 poles.good workers at first whilst under agency as they sorted there accomadation etc but once full time they become lazy.
I would rather take on someone I know and think I can trust with no  dreams of starting up on there own.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Steve_c on January 28, 2012, 08:46:48 am
We had one when we did all the window cleaning.
Started off moaning he couldn't do it as fast as the other, of course in the end he was as fast.
Always on time and worked hard earning good money until ............. about 12 months in the attitude started >:(
Wanted/needed more money but wouldn't do the extra work for it.
Needed time off at very short notice (like on the morning) because wife needed to go to doctors about her toe (hardly life threatening)
Demanded this demanded that.

Finally on the 3rd time of threatening to quit, I wrote the resignation letter for him one night and got him to sign it when he arrived for work the next morning ;D
 I was under the impression you sold your window cleaning business.
With hindsight I should have just paid him off at that point because he spent the next 7 days without speaking a single word to me, and so it came to pass that he was canvassing our customers to change over to him....... which none did.

Not content with that he then decided to confront my wife one day by waiting for me to drive away before appearing at the front door, but not quick enough for me to turn around and we had a right set to in the street.

Put me right off them for life.
I  was under the impression you sold up your window cleaning business.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: ashbash on January 28, 2012, 10:12:40 am
terrible post. whats wrong with the english lads.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Cliff perkins on January 28, 2012, 10:15:57 am
Just a point to make,if u show them all the game they might just nick all your work and undercut u to get it lol
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 10:24:34 am
We had one when we did all the window cleaning.
Started off moaning he couldn't do it as fast as the other, of course in the end he was as fast.
Always on time and worked hard earning good money until ............. about 12 months in the attitude started >:(
Wanted/needed more money but wouldn't do the extra work for it.
Needed time off at very short notice (like on the morning) because wife needed to go to doctors about her toe (hardly life threatening)
Demanded this demanded that.

Finally on the 3rd time of threatening to quit, I wrote the resignation letter for him one night and got him to sign it when he arrived for work the next morning ;D
 I was under the impression you sold your window cleaning business.
With hindsight I should have just paid him off at that point because he spent the next 7 days without speaking a single word to me, and so it came to pass that he was canvassing our customers to change over to him....... which none did.

Not content with that he then decided to confront my wife one day by waiting for me to drive away before appearing at the front door, but not quick enough for me to turn around and we had a right set to in the street.

Put me right off them for life.
I  was under the impression you sold up your window cleaning business.

He did! If you look carefully he said "when" we did the window cleaning ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Silver Surfer on January 28, 2012, 11:24:56 am
Every one is entitled to their view.this is mine.Nearly all my work as a plasterer(Than) has been taken by Eastern lot!!!..doing it for half price or next to nothing because they can.I'm sorry if you don't like it it,but they have stitched me right up,which is why i have to clean glass ???
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steveo22 on January 28, 2012, 01:05:01 pm
Every one is entitled to their view.this is mine.Nearly all my work as a plasterer(Than) has been taken by Eastern lot!!!..doing it for half price or next to nothing because they can.I'm sorry if you don't like it it,but they have stitched me right up,which is why i have to clean glass ???
If their was a like button, I'd press it!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Viktor on January 28, 2012, 02:23:54 pm
I think I will put my thoughts here as well..

As some of you have already noticed I am not English, thought I am permanent resident in the UK.
Have been here for some time. I am not polish my self, but I am from Eastern Europe
Had lots of experience working with poles in this country.
Are they better or worse then any English bloke to be employed ? It is a bit silly question to start with. But I will ask to answer that.
Many of polish or any other eastern Europeans have proved to work hard and be a valuable employs.
A short example: In Nov/Dec I have taken a night shift work at Tesco stores to go along with my window cleaning, was scared to get snow and be out of work.
around 80 staff (without managers) at tescos during the night and at least 35 poles. They have put one of the poles as a manager to help as some of them don't even speak English.
However they have proved to be a good workers.
Why they are good ? They had difficult time in they country and here they have a chance and they work for it.
soon time comes and they get settled, have some new opportunities, learn language, settle down here and they no different to any other.

I have seen brilliant English workers over my last 8-9 years. Hard working, fast, smart.

Now at tescos I worked with an English lad, he was crying that it's not enough income and his girlfriend is due to have a third kid and he desperate for some money.
I did give him my number and said to call me and I will give him some work during his holidays (two weeks), said you can do some canvassing and explained that if things going good with that he can make twice more money then at tescos  (he is that type of person to do that - talkative, not scared to speak to any stranger in the shop etc..) He was very excited.
Said if that wont work for you, you can come and help me and I will pay you.
So he was duo to call me on Sunday. Nothing
I try to get to him on Monday - no answer.
Haven't heard from him since.

At tescos, they have employed at least 15 staff in November, all different nationalities, only I and two other was left by the January.

I could give so many examples from my experience and there will be no answer to the question.

It's just getting the right people to do the right job.
Some will want to have opportunities to grow, learn and achieve and if they good, got to give them a chance for that so they don't start to think of undercutting you.
Some will only need to stay where they are, happy with secured job not looking around.

 It is difficult to get a right person to do the job, but once you get it and you manage it well - can bring a huge value to your business.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steveo22 on January 28, 2012, 03:11:20 pm
You probably didn't get a call from him because he didn't fancy working for an immigrant?
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Silver Surfer on January 28, 2012, 04:15:08 pm
You probably didn't get a call from him because he didn't fancy working for an immigrant?


Oh i wish there was a like button!!! ;)
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: LSB on January 28, 2012, 04:34:30 pm
i must be in the minority then !

i always have problems with english workers !

i never have problems with polish / east european !  ( same wages )

i have always found it is the english who , dont turn up , use every excuse going , are rude , think they can take my customers , etc .

maybe i have been very unlucky with the english , and lucky with the polish !
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: G Griffin on January 28, 2012, 04:36:38 pm
So, we come to the conclusion that-
Many people on here have stereotypical views  ;D.

And it's employees.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Viktor on January 28, 2012, 04:37:58 pm
You probably didn't get a call from him because he didn't fancy working for an immigrant?


Oh i wish there was a like button!!! ;)

He knew I do window cleaning and he was the one who was initiating the talk, not me who asked him to work.
But well - whatever he fancy it's up to him - I don't care
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: geefree on January 28, 2012, 05:18:56 pm
Dont know about polish employees , but i polish my van quite often. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: rscleaningservices on January 28, 2012, 06:16:35 pm
Yes I work with a pol a water fed pole hes as goog as gold mmmmmmmmmmmm  :-X
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Helen on January 28, 2012, 06:19:22 pm
i must be in the minority then !

i always have problems with english workers !

i never have problems with polish / east european !  ( same wages )

i have always found it is the english who , dont turn up , use every excuse going , are rude , think they can take my customers , etc .

maybe i have been very unlucky with the english , and lucky with the polish !

Maybe as with most employers you just entered the "staff lottery" ;D
Some you win, some you lose ;D ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: G Griffin on January 28, 2012, 06:25:46 pm
Well said, Helen.
Maybe it's better to employ someone on their merits, and not where they come from.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 28, 2012, 06:34:47 pm
I think I will put my thoughts here as well..

As some of you have already noticed I am not English, thought I am permanent resident in the UK.
Have been here for some time. I am not polish my self, but I am from Eastern Europe
Had lots of experience working with poles in this country.
Are they better or worse then any English bloke to be employed ? It is a bit silly question to start with. But I will ask to answer that.
Many of polish or any other eastern Europeans have proved to work hard and be a valuable employs.
A short example: In Nov/Dec I have taken a night shift work at Tesco stores to go along with my window cleaning, was scared to get snow and be out of work.
around 80 staff (without managers) at tescos during the night and at least 35 poles. They have put one of the poles as a manager to help as some of them don't even speak English.
However they have proved to be a good workers.
Why they are good ? They had difficult time in they country and here they have a chance and they work for it.
soon time comes and they get settled, have some new opportunities, learn language, settle down here and they no different to any other.

I have seen brilliant English workers over my last 8-9 years. Hard working, fast, smart.

Now at tescos I worked with an English lad, he was crying that it's not enough income and his girlfriend is due to have a third kid and he desperate for some money.
I did give him my number and said to call me and I will give him some work during his holidays (two weeks), said you can do some canvassing and explained that if things going good with that he can make twice more money then at tescos  (he is that type of person to do that - talkative, not scared to speak to any stranger in the shop etc..) He was very excited.
Said if that wont work for you, you can come and help me and I will pay you.
So he was duo to call me on Sunday. Nothing
I try to get to him on Monday - no answer.
Haven't heard from him since.

At tescos, they have employed at least 15 staff in November, all different nationalities, only I and two other was left by the January.

I could give so many examples from my experience and there will be no answer to the question.

It's just getting the right people to do the right job.
Some will want to have opportunities to grow, learn and achieve and if they good, got to give them a chance for that so they don't start to think of undercutting you.
Some will only need to stay where they are, happy with secured job not looking around.

 It is difficult to get a right person to do the job, but once you get it and you manage it well - can bring a huge value to your business.

I think this sums it up.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: tacky on January 29, 2012, 05:12:08 pm
im with cliff perkins on this one .
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: ashbash on January 29, 2012, 08:19:29 pm
i know if i went to poland they wouldnt be rushing to give me there benefits and jobs over a local lad.
wrap it up however you want but this is simply the truth. it says it all that this coutry is more appealing for foreigners to work in over there country. of course they will work harder it simply because they have a better life than they are used to. send me to australia to work in a dead end job and i bet id enjoy it more than any of the locals who think there life is crap. simple facts
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Silver Surfer on January 29, 2012, 08:30:43 pm
i know if i went to poland they wouldnt be rushing to give me there benefits and jobs over a local lad.
wrap it up however you want but this is simply the truth. it says it all that this coutry is more appealing for foreigners to work in over there country. of course they will work harder it simply because they have a better life than they are used to. send me to australia to work in a dead end job and i bet id enjoy it more than any of the locals who think there life is crap. simple facts

I'm sure there's a few who feel like this,it's a +1 from me!!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steveo22 on January 29, 2012, 09:04:24 pm
i know if i went to poland they wouldnt be rushing to give me there benefits and jobs over a local lad.
wrap it up however you want but this is simply the truth. it says it all that this coutry is more appealing for foreigners to work in over there country. of course they will work harder it simply because they have a better life than they are used to. send me to australia to work in a dead end job and i bet id enjoy it more than any of the locals who think there life is crap. simple facts

I'm sure there's a few who feel like this,it's a +1 from me!!
Here Here!!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 29, 2012, 09:07:33 pm
Blame the last government who opened the doors to them, not the people who want to work for a better life for their families?
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Silver Surfer on January 29, 2012, 09:15:46 pm
Blame the last government who opened the doors to them, not the people who want to work for a better life for their families?

Work or "SCROUNGE" two different things!!!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 29, 2012, 09:22:12 pm
You probably didn't get a call from him because he didn't fancy working for an immigrant?


Oh i wish there was a like button!!! ;)

You don't like foreigners, I think you have made your point.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Silver Surfer on January 29, 2012, 09:26:45 pm
You probably didn't get a call from him because he didn't fancy working for an immigrant?


Oh i wish there was a like button!!! ;)

You don't like foreigners, I think you have made your point.

Your spot on sherlock!!!..we'll leave it there shall we?
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: deeege on January 29, 2012, 09:31:27 pm
Fine with that.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 09:48:17 pm
Interesting to say the least!!
We employ 3 Poles, a husband and wife and one other. We also employ several English lads.
The people we have are very good; never late no unplanned for days off, no real moans. it helps I guess that my missus comes from Poland and I speak a tiny bit of the lingo so there are no communication probs. We did try and get local people first but it was a bit of a nightmare', the moneys ok £10/£12 ph with bonus, but a lot of locals think they should get that for turning up!! I know that there are good and bad in all races but if someone wants to get of their ass and travel over 1000 miles to find work they probably have the right attitude.
ps The poles who work for us do not claim a penny off of the government for anything, everything they have they pay for themselves.
pps I lso realise not all areas are the same
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: wiktor on January 29, 2012, 10:14:57 pm
I am polish.
I'd like to make an apology for all that poles who came there and behave like pigs released from the cowshed.
Most decent poles do well back home, and theres no need for them to emigrate, so plenty of us here in UK is unfortunately scum. Sad but true.
Correction: ' coorver ' doesn't mean 'bitch' . in 95% cases it means the same as ' f*ck! or oh sh*t ! "'. It means 'bitch' in certain situations only.
Just saying so it could help with missunderstundings in future ( like one might think them polish numptys just called him 'bitch' in their weird language :D )

Good night.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Viktor on January 29, 2012, 10:16:59 pm
Blame the last government who opened the doors to them, not the people who want to work for a better life for their families?

Work or "SCROUNGE" two different things!!!


You should see more of the life around the world. You can't judge everything on your own little experience...
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 10:25:56 pm
Hi Viktor, where are you based?
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Viktor on January 29, 2012, 10:31:55 pm
Hi Viktor, where are you based?
Buckinghamshire
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 10:39:38 pm
I'm just the other side of Oxford. Email me if you want S
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Viktor on January 29, 2012, 10:41:19 pm
I'm just the other side of Oxford. Email me if you want S

your email is hidden :)
my email is bvt333@gmail.com
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: gary999 on January 29, 2012, 10:44:14 pm
rather than blaming the polish or any other nationality that comes over here to work

maybe the finger should be pointed at the employer who is looking to employ
as much as he can cheap labour.

as for the polish being good workers i imagine they are like any nationality
english included where there is good,bad and indifferent.

i can only imagine a preference for a polish  worker over a english one would
be cost
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 10:49:21 pm
Absoloutly NOT. My workers all get paid the same basic + £1 ph if they have a driving licence, + bonus at the same rate. I empoly the best person fot the job regardless of nationality or anthing else
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: gary999 on January 29, 2012, 11:02:44 pm
Absoloutly NOT. My workers all get paid the same basic + £1 ph if they have a driving licence, + bonus at the same rate. I empoly the best person fot the job regardless of nationality or anthing else

fairplay to you...but there are plenty of employers who set salaries knowing
only foreign nationals cheap labour will take especially when new to this country
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: H S and Son on January 29, 2012, 11:06:21 pm
Good for the Viktor. Making something for yourself! Fair play.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 11:07:46 pm
Maybe thats why the people who work for us have all been here a long time, treat people fairly and they will normally do the same to you. There will always be the odd 'bad apple' but you can't let one person cloud your judgement of everyone else
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: steve rix on January 29, 2012, 11:08:28 pm
Good for the Viktor. Making something for yourself! Fair play.
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Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 30, 2012, 03:14:38 pm
Someone early on this thread said something about racist and nationalistic comments being the result of lazy thinking and I agree.

I have one excellent English employee (OK, I think he has a paternal Italian great grandparent going by his surname! But then I've a grandparent born in Wales; oh the shame!  ;D)

In a previous life I have employed or been in business with a Polish lady, a Black Englishman, two Welshmen and several Englishmen and women.

I have three East European tenants who pay on the nail and who (at point of checking last April) have "proper jobs" (tax insurance etc) as warehouse operatives/clerks in Avonmouth. The house is kept spotless.

The only two employees I have ever sacked for misconduct (theft) and (fraud) were white english but I think that statistically having over the years employed about twenty different people the vast majority of whom were white English then that was just the way the numbers fell.

I know it is boring but as always I say each person should be judged on his/her own merits - not their country of birth or their race.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: C.C.S. on January 30, 2012, 04:45:47 pm
Hi all.I'm from eastern europe and i think i'm doing ok.i've been a window cleaner for 5 years now and started carpet cleaning too about 3 years.i have a around 500 happy customers who appreciate me because i'm reliable ,honest and friendly.i have picked many jobs from english window cleaners over the years(i'm  the only foreigner from what i know) and i can honestly say i'm more expensive than most of them and i think my prices aren't high but fair.
i started on my own from scratch and didn't steal any work/customers from anyone.
sometimes i can understand your pain over the foreigners but we picked the jobs you didn't want to do anymore and allowed us to progress.
anyway i'm off to pick the keys for my new home .very excited ..
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 30, 2012, 05:38:30 pm
Hi all.I'm from eastern europe and i think i'm doing ok.i've been a window cleaner for 5 years now and started carpet cleaning too about 3 years.i have a around 500 happy customers who appreciate me because i'm reliable ,honest and friendly.i have picked many jobs from english window cleaners over the years(i'm  the only foreigner from what i know) and i can honestly say i'm more expensive than most of them and i think my prices aren't high but fair.
i started on my own from scratch and didn't steal any work/customers from anyone.
sometimes i can understand your pain over the foreigners but we picked the jobs you didn't want to do anymore and allowed us to progress.  anyway i'm off to pick the keys for my new home .very excited ..


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: bobby p on January 30, 2012, 06:30:09 pm
Hi all.I'm from eastern europe and i think i'm doing ok.i've been a window cleaner for 5 years now and started carpet cleaning too about 3 years.i have a around 500 happy customers who appreciate me because i'm reliable ,honest and friendly.i have picked many jobs from english window cleaners over the years(i'm  the only foreigner from what i know) and i can honestly say i'm more expensive than most of them and i think my prices aren't high but fair.
i started on my own from scratch and didn't steal any work/customers from anyone.
sometimes i can understand your pain over the foreigners but we picked the jobs you didn't want to do anymore and allowed us to progress.
anyway i'm off to pick the keys for my new home .very excited ..

hi again, that job in van d yke road is yours if you want it? its 12 quid every 4 or 6 weeks,iv not been since november and im surpised she hasnt called but send me a PM  and then you can just call in and say to her iv given you it  as its out of my way . shes a bit of a funny bugger to tell the truth but pays ok
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: C.C.S. on January 30, 2012, 08:25:51 pm
Hi all.I'm from eastern europe and i think i'm doing ok.i've been a window cleaner for 5 years now and started carpet cleaning too about 3 years.i have a around 500 happy customers who appreciate me because i'm reliable ,honest and friendly.i have picked many jobs from english window cleaners over the years(i'm  the only foreigner from what i know) and i can honestly say i'm more expensive than most of them and i think my prices aren't high but fair.
i started on my own from scratch and didn't steal any work/customers from anyone.
sometimes i can understand your pain over the foreigners but we picked the jobs you didn't want to do anymore and allowed us to progress.
anyway i'm off to pick the keys for my new home .very excited ..

hi again, that job in van d yke road is yours if you want it? its 12 quid every 4 or 6 weeks,iv not been since november and im surpised she hasnt called but send me a PM  and then you can just call in and say to her iv given you it  as its out of my way . shes a bit of a funny bugger to tell the truth but pays ok

Hi and thank you .I can't send you a PM as i can't but if you could email me the details  at  info@colchester-cleaning-services.co.uk would be great.Thank you
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: bobby p on January 30, 2012, 09:04:15 pm
emailed you.  she will have you doing the insides of the conserv  sometimes too  .  give her my regards
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 30, 2012, 09:18:35 pm
Hi all.I'm from eastern europe and i think i'm doing ok.i've been a window cleaner for 5 years now and started carpet cleaning too about 3 years.i have a around 500 happy customers who appreciate me because i'm reliable ,honest and friendly.i have picked many jobs from english window cleaners over the years(i'm  the only foreigner from what i know) and i can honestly say i'm more expensive than most of them and i think my prices aren't high but fair.
i started on my own from scratch and didn't steal any work/customers from anyone.
sometimes i can understand your pain over the foreigners but we picked the jobs you didn't want to do anymore and allowed us to progress.
anyway i'm off to pick the keys for my new home .very excited ..

hi again, that job in van d yke road is yours if you want it? its 12 quid every 4 or 6 weeks,iv not been since november and im surpised she hasnt called but send me a PM  and then you can just call in and say to her iv given you it  as its out of my way . shes a bit of a funny bugger  to tell the truth but pays ok

nothing a quality sausage roll wouldnt of sorted out Bobby  ;D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: bobby p on January 30, 2012, 09:33:01 pm
hi Dan,id not waste a sausage roll on her !

  iv jus remembered she has a "dropped foot "  ,that where you wake up one day and your foot hangs downwards making walking very difficult, but Really funny to watch !      if you are reading this C.C.S. try to draw her outside, so you can see the walking action

 its wrong to laugh at misfortune,but in her case its okay to chuckle as she had me flogging my guts out at her previous home on many occasions
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: C.C.S. on January 30, 2012, 09:56:17 pm
hi Dan,id not waste a sausage roll on her !

  iv jus remembered she has a "dropped foot "  ,that where you wake up one day and your foot hangs downwards making walking very difficult, but Really funny to watch !      if you are reading this C.C.S. try to draw her outside, so you can see the walking action

 its wrong to laugh at misfortune,but in her case its okay to chuckle as she had me flogging my guts out at her previous home on many occasions
Thanks a lot i'll contact her probably next week .
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Sean Dyer on January 30, 2012, 09:59:39 pm
empolyee?  :D
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: G Griffin on January 30, 2012, 10:10:40 pm
hi Dan,id not waste a sausage roll on her !

  iv jus remembered she has a "dropped foot "  ,that where you wake up one day and your foot hangs downwards making walking very difficult, but Really funny to watch !      if you are reading this C.C.S. try to draw her outside, so you can see the walking action

 its wrong to laugh at misfortune,but in her case its okay to chuckle as she had me flogging my guts out at her previous home on many occasions
Thanks a lot i'll contact her probably next week .

Give us a shout when you're doing them, and I'll come for a look at "the walking action". I could do with a laugh and the local A&E ward are getting sick of me just turning up for my own entertainment.
Bobby  :o  ;D.
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: Total shine cleaning services on January 31, 2012, 08:52:17 am
Is it just me, I found some of the comments on here quite shocking..! Live and let live and only judge those who you have experienced lack of respect from, life is a learning curve and people can and do surprise you if you judge to quickly, sermon over..!
Title: Re: Polish empolyees
Post by: red star on January 31, 2012, 10:18:54 am
hi Dan,id not waste a sausage roll on her !

  iv jus remembered she has a "dropped foot "  ,that where you wake up one day and your foot hangs downwards making walking very difficult, but Really funny to watch !      if you are reading this C.C.S. try to draw her outside, so you can see the walking action

 its wrong to laugh at misfortune,but in her case its okay to chuckle as she had me flogging my guts out at her previous home on many occasions

how about putting on a coach trip so we can all have a watch