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Title: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 11, 2012, 11:51:53 pm
I have a large graffiti job to price - over 200m on brick to price. Where do you buy your products from for larger jobs and not just the odd tag. I don't get any graffiti jobs for ages then two in a week, one last week and then this big job
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Blast Away on January 12, 2012, 06:09:08 am
http://www.dccleaningsolutions.com/category/Specialist_Cleaning/Graffiti_Remover,l.html

Excellent stuff and cheap. Chris or Dan http://www.dccleaningsolutions.com/frontend/contactUs
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Matt Gibson on January 12, 2012, 08:17:34 am
Yeah, that stuff is really good.. great price..
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 12, 2012, 08:56:34 am
Carl,

I have used Tensid's graffti products, all been good.
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 12, 2012, 09:44:01 am
Roger I had a price of £1200 for enough tensid to do the job and I don't think the client will go for that so I'm looking for a comparison. I usually use Selden from the local supplier but thats expensive as well. I can put the options to the client and then its their choice. Its gone mad so far this year
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Forum Admin on January 12, 2012, 12:20:23 pm
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Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 12, 2012, 12:26:02 pm
I did  - I'd go bust if I paid those prices
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 12, 2012, 03:56:02 pm
Roger I had a price of £1200 for enough tensid to do the job and I don't think the client will go for that so I'm looking for a comparison. I usually use Selden from the local supplier but thats expensive as well. I can put the options to the client and then its their choice. Its gone mad so far this year

Tensid's stuff isn't the cheapest, but does work. For 200 plus square metres, going to be around £2500 at least. Products expensive, plus your time/labour etc what do these people want, it done for a few quid? annoying.
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 12, 2012, 06:02:09 pm
Roger, I'm please you put that figure because thats what I quoted which was within the budget allowed by the client. The enquiry came through a builder who contracts for TP who seem to own several sheds these days. The builders never wanted to get involved in the cleaning but was pushed by the building surveyor. If they like what they get he will stop crossing out the graffiti removal from pricing schedules.
  Lee thanks for that link, they were very keen. I need this job to go right so I think I'm going to order some to trial next to the Tensid which if it goes right would increase the margin on further jobs. Thanks
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Roger Oakley on January 12, 2012, 08:04:40 pm
Carl,
Just a sensible price without seeing the site/job.

For me it's about time people/joe public stopped cheapening what we do, you want the job done properly then it comes at a cost, as long as you can deliver then, so you should charge accordingly, want it done cheap and not to a professional standard, then go somewhere else.
Good luck Carl hope you get it  :)
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: steve poole on January 13, 2012, 04:31:58 pm
Hello All
Just want to introduce my self - my name is John and i am one of the owners of the graffiti company advertising at the top of the page -Graffiti Removal Ltd.

As the name suggests we only do graffiti - we manufacture our own products/trucks and carry out loads of cleaning.

I respect the comment about price earlier in the thread - however if all the graffiti comes off quickly with no ghosting or damage then the value is in the products.

A job of 200m from our experience would if it were just tags and bubble require roughly 75 Litres(£896.25 +VAT)-worst case scenario.
If it were full blown murals double thick in say 50% of areas we would suggest 150 Litres (£1792.50 + VAT) - again absolute worst case scenario - you could actually end up using half these volumes but I don't want to mess up first time i jump in on this forum.

However what i would like to suggest is anyone winning this job please accept 10
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: steve poole on January 13, 2012, 04:39:24 pm
Hello All

Just want to introduce my self - my name is John and i am one of the owners of the graffiti company advertising at the top of the page -Graffiti Removal Ltd.

As the name suggests we only do graffiti - we manufacture our own products/trucks and carry out loads of cleaning.

I respect the comment about price earlier in the thread - however if all the graffiti comes off quickly with no ghosting or damage then the value is in the products.

A job of 200m from our experience would if it were just tags and bubble require roughly 75 Litres(£896.25 +VAT)-worst case scenario.
If it were full blown murals double thick in say 50% of areas we would suggest 150 Litres (£1792.50 + VAT) - again absolute worst case scenario - you could actually end up using half these volumes but I don't want to mess up first time i jump in on this forum.

There is no shelf life to the product but on a job of this size we would always offer sale or return

However what i would like to suggest is anyone winning this job please accept 10 Litres of our product F.O.C and compare it with any other product - I think you may be very suprised!!

Please take some time to look at the website - the videos are all real time and its what we do - please don't be put off that we work predominently with councils - we work with lots of organisations ranging from councils /housing associations large and small companies.

Please feel free to give me a call any time - our advice is free and we are always learning!

John Cooper

01256 883029
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Blast Away on January 13, 2012, 06:14:59 pm
£1075.50 for 75 liters of graf remover.

Get down the road you f***in' joker!

DC Cleaning Solutions - 3 x 25 litre drums about £270.
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Matt Gibson on January 13, 2012, 07:16:22 pm
Steve/john..

I understand you are in business, but as Blast Away said, thats pretty pricey. DC cleanings stuff is pretty good gear, and cheap.. It works perfectly on all the tags, but i havent tried it on the heavy mural stuff. But if i had a heavy mural to remove, i'd use proper paint stripper which is roughly £150 for 25L.

Do you give free samples? could i grab one off you to try your stuff out?
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Blast Away on January 13, 2012, 07:35:51 pm
Steve/john..

I understand you are in business, but as Blast Away said, thats pretty pricey. DC cleanings stuff is pretty good gear, and cheap.. It works perfectly on all the tags, but i havent tried it on the heavy mural stuff. But if i had a heavy mural to remove, i'd use proper paint stripper which is roughly £150 for 25L.

Do you give free samples? could i grab one off you to try your stuff out?

£80.  ;)

Makes me pi$$ mate. Seen a petrol Honda today on a trolley with a water tank sat on the trolley. Was only a 6.5hp with a small pump.

Asked the woman how much it cost and she said the shopping centre paid £2500 for it.

I could build the same spec for about £800 with all new gear, new engine and pump, new trolley, new water tank.
She then went on to same she wants a new lance but the company they use to service their equipment want £250 for one. Exactly one you can buy for £50-£60. Just a trigger, lance, fan nozzle and fittings.

Some right jokers knocking about.
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: mike roberts on January 13, 2012, 07:37:32 pm
£1075.50 for 75 liters of graf remover.

Get down the road you f***in' joker!

DC Cleaning Solutions - 3 x 25 litre drums about £270.

 ;D ;D calm down  ;D ;D

Quickly changed this post  ;D

I have spoken to John before and used his products, ref problem tag similar to what you had Lee.
Must say very helpfull guy - products we used worked well ....
BUT But we were told we could not have a FREE sample  ??? ??? Just remembered that whilst writing post !

BDCS nice post - interested how many litres are you looking at for 200m?
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 13, 2012, 07:51:16 pm
I have spoken to the client who was given the budget for the job and my price was within this so if all goes well I hope to get the nod  ;) .
As for products, I'm not vat reg'd so the prices came out as follows
Our sponser above £1075.50 - £2151
Tensid £1209.60
Dc cleaning solutions £456+delivery
On a 200 sq m job I'll certainly trial products side by side but when you consider it would need to be 4 times as economical to equal the least expensive. Its not a blue chip company its a diy shed and they are driven on price and service and you never get to meet the suit to upsell yourself. So the MSDS, rams and my quote are in the post  ;)
80 ltrs of remover & 60 ltrs of ghost - the previous contractor made a pretty poor effort so I've not left myself short. AS I said I'm buying some DC gear as I've been offered other stores if they are happy with this one and their price will convert the bottom line if the product performs as they and others say.
  I found ghost quoted @ £11.65/ltr+(£13.98inc) on our sponsers site which is double tensids price
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Matt Gibson on January 13, 2012, 07:52:24 pm
Steve/john..

I understand you are in business, but as Blast Away said, thats pretty pricey. DC cleanings stuff is pretty good gear, and cheap.. It works perfectly on all the tags, but i havent tried it on the heavy mural stuff. But if i had a heavy mural to remove, i'd use proper paint stripper which is roughly £150 for 25L.

Do you give free samples? could i grab one off you to try your stuff out?

£80.  ;)

Makes me pi$$ mate. Seen a petrol Honda today on a trolley with a water tank sat on the trolley. Was only a 6.5hp with a small pump.

Asked the woman how much it cost and she said the shopping centre paid £2500 for it.

I could build the same spec for about £800 with all new gear, new engine and pump, new trolley, new water tank.
She then went on to same she wants a new lance but the company they use to service their equipment want £250 for one. Exactly one you can buy for £50-£60. Just a trigger, lance, fan nozzle and fittings.

Some right jokers knocking about.

Come on mate, give it up, where you getting paint stripper from for £80??  ;D

And also, where the f8ck are ya getting a brand new pump that cheap to put together this imaginanry machine?? ;)
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: mike roberts on January 13, 2012, 07:59:09 pm
I have spoken to the client who was given the budget for the job and my price was within this so if all goes well I hope to get the nod  ;) .
As for products, I'm not vat reg'd so the prices came out as follows
Our sponser above £1075.50 - £2151
Tensid £1209.60
Dc cleaning solutions £456+delivery
On a 200 sq m job I'll certainly trial products side by side but when you consider it would need to be 4 times as economical to equal the least expensive. Its not a blue chip company its a diy shed and they are driven on price and service and you never get to meet the suit to upsell yourself. So the MSDS, rams and my quote are in the post  ;)
80 ltrs of remover & 60 ltrs of ghost - the previous contractor made a pretty poor effort so I've not left myself short. AS I said I'm buying some DC gear as I've been offered other stores if they are happy with this one and their price will convert the bottom line if the product performs as they and others say.
  I found ghost quoted @ £11.65/ltr+(£13.98inc) on our sponsers site which is double tensids price


Nice one - But how do u get away from being Vat reg ??? have u got a secret stash somewhere  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Blast Away on January 13, 2012, 08:19:46 pm
Steve/john..

I understand you are in business, but as Blast Away said, thats pretty pricey. DC cleanings stuff is pretty good gear, and cheap.. It works perfectly on all the tags, but i havent tried it on the heavy mural stuff. But if i had a heavy mural to remove, i'd use proper paint stripper which is roughly £150 for 25L.

Do you give free samples? could i grab one off you to try your stuff out?

£80.  ;)

Makes me pi$$ mate. Seen a petrol Honda today on a trolley with a water tank sat on the trolley. Was only a 6.5hp with a small pump.

Asked the woman how much it cost and she said the shopping centre paid £2500 for it.

I could build the same spec for about £800 with all new gear, new engine and pump, new trolley, new water tank.
She then went on to same she wants a new lance but the company they use to service their equipment want £250 for one. Exactly one you can buy for £50-£60. Just a trigger, lance, fan nozzle and fittings.

Some right jokers knocking about.

Come on mate, give it up, where you getting paint stripper from for £80??  ;D

And also, where the f8ck are ya getting a brand new pump that cheap to put together this imaginanry machine?? ;)

Stripper £80 from Tayburs in Bury. Bought in from Chemicals Ltd in Southport. But you go to Chemicals Ltd and see their direct price to you.

Pump - 11 liter Interpump and gearbox £375, Honda GX200 £300. Trolley and tank in the change.  ;)
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 13, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
Price is a price - it makes no odds to the client if there is vat on top or not. I've never had anyone say it goes against me. I pay vat on everything £2k in vat on my new van (57plate), £1k in vat on my new enduro bike which is also a company vechicle not to mention the kit I bought last year. My accountant is happy about the vat but has kittens when she thinks the threshold is looming  ;) I may be mad but I'm happy
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: mike roberts on January 13, 2012, 10:15:02 pm
Price is a price - it makes no odds to the client if there is vat on top or not. I've never had anyone say it goes against me. I pay vat on everything £2k in vat on my new van (57plate), £1k in vat on my new enduro bike which is also a company vechicle not to mention the kit I bought last year. M y accountant is happy about the vat but has kittens when she thinks the threshold is looming  ;) I may be mad but I'm happy

not having a go just thought you would be over threshold
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 13, 2012, 11:07:05 pm
I'm a one man band - just me and the dog  ;D
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: mike roberts on January 14, 2012, 06:47:21 am
 Fair play ;D ;D
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Cliff Horne on January 14, 2012, 08:22:27 am
Price is a price - it makes no odds to the client if there is vat on top or not. I've never had anyone say it goes against me. I pay vat on everything £2k in vat on my new van (57plate), £1k in vat on my new enduro bike which is also a company vechicle not to mention the kit I bought last year. My accountant is happy about the vat but has kittens when she thinks the threshold is looming  ;) I may be mad but I'm happy

Enduro bike, company vehicle? got me thinking if I can use my Harley for work  8)
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 16, 2012, 10:52:35 am
My mate has a painting firm and he rides a Hayley - he takes the wheels off and uses it as a wacker plate  ;D Why not just put it down as plant
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Cliff Horne on January 17, 2012, 06:57:04 am
Whats this Hayley ride like then  :o
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 17, 2012, 08:41:23 am
If thats your thing then its about as trick as you'll get custom with tuned motor and lashes of chrome but to me its a wacker. He's also got a ktm 350 amongst other toys
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Cliff Horne on January 17, 2012, 02:42:18 pm
Yeah mines a custom but what about Hayley  :P
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: BDCS on January 17, 2012, 05:20:28 pm
http://chewy.cc/globemcc/photos/hayleyondeva.jpg
Title: Re: Graffiti products
Post by: Cliff Horne on January 18, 2012, 06:32:31 am
hmmm  ;D