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Title: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 10:27:45 pm
berghaus £80 leaked, replaced then payed £10 more for salomans they leaked too not as bad as the first then got a pair of berghaus

again this time they refudned me £40 as they where on sale so ive ended up now with the first ones for half price

blacks wimbeldon all 3 leaking the left foot yes i am right handed, they are telling me
they shouldnt leak and i am the only person bringing them back and no brands should leak

can anyone shead any light on this? it seems to be a tiny part of the trainer. or god knows ???
i now have to replace these.. ???
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Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on January 10, 2012, 10:33:48 pm
Try some wellies! ;D
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Dave Willis on January 10, 2012, 10:34:13 pm
They aren't really designed for constant wet weather use. Get leather boots lined with Goretex then you can proof the leather too. I wear Berghaus Explorer Ridge boots and they don't leak generally. I also had some Hitec boots coated with some magic formula guaranteed waterproof - they lasted an hour!
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Post by: Window Washers on January 10, 2012, 10:36:26 pm
we use karrimor water proof boots had dry feet for a few years now :) oh and they are under £40 a pair depending on how much or a tart you are :)
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Dave Willis on January 10, 2012, 10:37:47 pm
http://www.gaynors.co.uk/productdetail.asp?productcatalogue=010101440008

I've tried all the cheap stuff and it's usually crap.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: stuart mc on January 10, 2012, 10:39:25 pm
mate I have known gortex will leak for years, I got shot down for saying it here, it is good but enough water and it will leak, although how you are getting so wet is a mystery, it took days of standing in peat bogs and the like before my feet got wet
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 10:51:35 pm
http://www.gaynors.co.uk/productdetail.asp?productcatalogue=010101440008

I've tried all the cheap stuff and it's usually crap.

right at the moment ive got these sweet looking things http://www.completeoutdoors.co.uk/Berghaus-Prognosis-GTX-Mens-Shoe

it leaks at the bottom side im not getting water above the level...
im getting wet cos i work with water 8 hours a day :0;; drips just mount up and leak

mate will that boot do the job? is there anything more like a trainer that will be to heavy and warm in the summer.
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Post by: [GQC] Tim on January 10, 2012, 10:58:24 pm
Brasher Supalite GTX II boots here. Gore-tex, full grain leather. Bone dry. First test was submersing them in a bucket of water for 5 minutes with tissue paper stuffed in them. No problem. Not even at the shoe lace points.

(http://www.mycountryside.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/gxii.jpg)

£100. Best shoes I have ever had. They fit properly from day one, like it's moulded to my foot. They are super light as well, as light as trainers. 1160g per pair (for size 9). Downside is that they are not as warm as others, but that can easily fixed by thermal socks. The plus side is that you can use them in summer as well.

It's not Gore-tex, it's the quality of the trainers. You really need full grain leather boots. You need to look after them as well by regularly cleaning them and rubbing leather grease in them.

All waterproof membranes will eventually fail because they are constantly subjected to external forces. Gore-tex is still considered to be the best, closely followed by eVent and others.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Dave Willis on January 10, 2012, 10:59:05 pm
Anything with a nylon/canvas upper holds the water and never dries out. Treated leather repels the water so that it rolls off in droplets. You want a tongue that's stitched to the top too.
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Post by: Pope vader on January 10, 2012, 11:00:10 pm
i use rigger boots some times and they are great
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 11:10:33 pm
Looks like Brasher it is then,
as long as they are light then fine
how often do i need to treat it with the grease


found one on ebay for £130 new. others ive had a bit cheaper but you get for what you pay for


Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 10, 2012, 11:24:50 pm
Before you buy the Brashers.......

I bought some Goretex british army boots from ebay a few years ago. I paid £35 delivered and they are superb still! I've not treated them and feet are still warm and dry all day. I've tried all of the other £100 boots (but not Brashers) and although they are waterproof to begin with, they very soon lose their waterproofness.
Only downside is is that they are heavier than Brashers but the weight has never been a problem.

Here is just one pair I just found for £35 but there are loads...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITISH-ARMY-GORETEX-PRO-BOOTS-GRADE-1-ALL-SIZES-/280670885191?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&var=&hash=item870c869c00
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 11:29:49 pm
Before you buy the Brashers.......

I bought some Goretex british army boots from ebay a few years ago. I paid £35 delivered and they are superb still! I've not treated them and feet are still warm and dry all day. I've tried all of the other £100 boots (but not Brashers) and although they are waterproof to begin with, they very soon lose their waterproofness.
Only downside is is that they are heavier than Brashers but the weight has never been a problem.

Here is just one pair I just found for £35 but there are loads...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITISH-ARMY-GORETEX-PRO-BOOTS-GRADE-1-ALL-SIZES-/280670885191?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&var=&hash=item870c869c00


what do those £35 things look like ;/?
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 11:30:51 pm
wont they be really warm and heavy?
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: stuart mc on January 10, 2012, 11:33:41 pm
Before you buy the Brashers.......

I bought some Goretex british army boots from ebay a few years ago. I paid £35 delivered and they are superb still! I've not treated them and feet are still warm and dry all day. I've tried all of the other £100 boots (but not Brashers) and although they are waterproof to begin with, they very soon lose their waterproofness.
Only downside is is that they are heavier than Brashers but the weight has never been a problem.

Here is just one pair I just found for £35 but there are loads...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITISH-ARMY-GORETEX-PRO-BOOTS-GRADE-1-ALL-SIZES-/280670885191?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&var=&hash=item870c869c00

that is what I would buy ;) I have made them leak but only in extreme conditions, mine are knackered now so a new pair will be ordered
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 10, 2012, 11:38:36 pm
Like i said the weight has never been a problem. I'm a 40 year old so no spring chicken but can easily climb 6' walls. Remember, they are designed for UK forces to do combat in so they wont be too heavy.
However, I change to trainers when the spring/summer comes but really only cos they would like stupid with my shorts but also in the height of the summer they would be too hot!!  ;D
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: G Griffin on January 10, 2012, 11:39:47 pm
blacks wimbeldon all 3 leaking

You've got 3 feet?
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: RO-Sheen on January 10, 2012, 11:44:23 pm
I've just weighed 1 boot on the kitchen scales (Dont tell my wife!) and it was 2lb 8oz (1.136g)
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 10, 2012, 11:44:53 pm
I have Kayland boots,keep you dry...but....they have a very hard sole on them,so you don't get a very good grip.Trad people who walk on roofs AVOID!
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: dazmond on January 10, 2012, 11:52:19 pm
goretex bergaus boots here.had them for 18 months worn everyday for work.feet absolutely bone dry.no problems whatsover.their not even leather!!goretex/canvass material!!£80 in a sale.

im well impressed with goretex.i also have a bergaus jacket.again bone dry and no sweating.i re proof it every few months though.

the boots ive not treated with anything.very little wear as well.best boots ive ever bought.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 10, 2012, 11:53:51 pm
can you link those pls daz.

im back tomorrow its well late gota be up for 7  ???
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Post by: Simon@ Clearview contractors on January 10, 2012, 11:55:27 pm
The brashers are good, they lasted me a year and didnt leak.

I now have some Meindl Vakuum Gtx boots, they are the mutt' nuts and well worth the money.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: dazmond on January 11, 2012, 08:00:20 am
EXPLORER LIGHT GTX BERGAUS BOOTS are what ive got crystal clear.sorry  i dont know how to put a link up.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Ian101 on January 11, 2012, 08:05:55 am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blackrock-Chukka-Safety-Work-Boots-Leather-Steel-Toe-Cap-Midsole-Size-Mens-New-/160654761492?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&var=&hash=item6b1c0e0eea

These are great and so cheap very comfy and very dry had em for over 3 months and still good ... so good I bought another pair for when these wear out
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Post by: bobplum on January 11, 2012, 08:44:56 am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blackrock-Chukka-Safety-Work-Boots-Leather-Steel-Toe-Cap-Midsole-Size-Mens-New-/160654761492?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&var=&hash=item6b1c0e0eea

These are great and so cheap very comfy and very dry had em for over 3 months and still good ... so good I bought another pair for when these wear out

i have the same,got mine from arco,£16.00,brilliant if they last 6 months i will be happy ;D,easily pleased
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Post by: dmlservices on January 11, 2012, 09:56:58 am
EXPLORER LIGHT GTX BERGAUS BOOTS are what ive got crystal clear.sorry  i dont know how to put a link up.
Had a pair of these, absolutely crap , leaked after 1 wk, sole is crap , no grip in slippery conditions, lethal on ice, sole is not even a vibram sole , it is a cheap rubber sole glued over foam ! Mine have split, to reveal the foam under Neath.
Now using scarpa ranger gtx, on £ 30 more than berghaus, but in a totally different league , the best boots Are my  Mendel Burma pro, have covered many miles in them , in the lake district and peak district , still 100 percent water proof after 1 1/2 yrs both have vibram soles, with terrific grip.


Daz
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Roy Cauldery on January 11, 2012, 10:06:52 am
Hello all
I use Berghaus(explorer trek) for all outdoor work(except jet washing -wellies required)They are a great boot and wouldnt trust my pins to anything else
Plus I change my boots every year!! I know its a bit excessive but then again , 7 years in the infantry teaches you that you aint gonna get anything done unless your happy from the ground up

Hope that helps

regards

Roy Cauldery :) :)

www.phoenixecs.co.uk
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Perfect Windows on January 11, 2012, 03:53:19 pm
Engelbert Strauss gear lasts forever.  These boots have lasted twice as long (so far) as any hiking boots I've worn, are dry as a bone, have a safety toecap and a steel plate in the sole for protection from punctures.  They are still fully waterproof and the soles haven't worn at all in eight months of daily use.

http://tinyurl.com/7f33ma8

Vin
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: gary999 on January 11, 2012, 04:55:34 pm
dunlop wellies £10 a pair and thermal socks never
cold and never wet :)
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 11, 2012, 05:25:27 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blackrock-Chukka-Safety-Work-Boots-Leather-Steel-Toe-Cap-Midsole-Size-Mens-New-/160654761492?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&var=&hash=item6b1c0e0eea

These are great and so cheap very comfy and very dry had em for over 3 months and still good ... so good I bought another pair for when these wear out

These are quite cheap what are they made out of not to leak!? i might give them a try.

dunlop wellies £10 a pair

they wont be very good to move around with and im walking around all day!
i know they are good vs water i had a pair before, but i couldnt really wear them down here anyway ive gota look smart!
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Post by: dazmond on January 11, 2012, 05:31:56 pm
lots of conflicting views but the berghaus boots are awesome for me.i cant praise them highly enough!!!dml services sounds like you didnt get the real mcCOY!!maybe they were cheap copies.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: gary999 on January 11, 2012, 06:00:08 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Blackrock-Chukka-Safety-Work-Boots-Leather-Steel-Toe-Cap-Midsole-Size-Mens-New-/160654761492?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&var=&hash=item6b1c0e0eea

These are great and so cheap very comfy and very dry had em for over 3 months and still good ... so good I bought another pair for when these wear out

These are quite cheap what are they made out of not to leak!? i might give them a try.

dunlop wellies £10 a pair

they wont be very good to move around with and im walking around all day!
i know they are good vs water i had a pair before, but i couldnt really wear them down here anyway ive gota look smart!


i use them day in and out and go fishing in them aswell perfectly good
for walking in my water proofs go over top only feet showing then
again i dont think ive had a customer mention whats on my feet ;D
im not a particulary insecure person and dot need fancy footwear
to validate me as a person. :)

anyway if they are good enough for the upperclass green jacket
brigade they are good enough for me ;D
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 11, 2012, 06:15:12 pm
Apparrantly I have the only pair of seal skin gloves in the uk that dont leak  ;D
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Post by: Carl@Cwc on January 11, 2012, 06:35:19 pm
salomon boots for me , dry as a bone and really comfy...
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: John Walker on January 11, 2012, 07:33:25 pm
DR MARTENS SLIP ON BOOTS

Been wearing these for 5 years every working day summer/winter.  Still plenty of wear left and not a drop of water let in.  And.......  so comfortable.  Also ideal for slipping off when you enter a cutomer's house.

http://www.safetybootsuk.co.uk/dr-martens-smooth-leather-dealer-safety-boot-p-89154.html (http://www.safetybootsuk.co.uk/dr-martens-smooth-leather-dealer-safety-boot-p-89154.html)
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Post by: C-Thru. on January 11, 2012, 10:50:43 pm
Brashers       Definatly!
just got a pair from Go-Outdoors £50.
best boots I've had on my feet for years.......
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: Simon@ Clearview contractors on January 11, 2012, 11:24:17 pm
Brashers       Definatly!
just got a pair from Go-Outdoors £50.
best boots I've had on my feet for years.......

£50??? :o :o :o  What are you in, Kids sizes?? ;)
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Post by: brianbarber on January 12, 2012, 12:40:20 am
Dr martins slip on  boots
thy call em dealer boots.

Been very good, nice quality.

Mr B
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: dmlservices on January 12, 2012, 09:44:31 am
lots of conflicting views but the berghaus boots are awesome for me.i cant praise them highly enough!!!dml services sounds like you didnt get the real mcCOY!!maybe they were cheap copies.

They were bought from a reputable co. on line. Perhaps a dud pair, would have sent them back but to much trouble, never had a problem with any of my other berghaus gear.


Daz
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Post by: Steve Sed on January 12, 2012, 06:41:49 pm
Brasher Supalites here. Bought them in March 2010. Have walked hundreds of mies in them and used them for work through last winter and this. Had a bad leak on my pole tap the other day though and right foot got wet. It's not clea yet though whether that is from outside, or water dripping through the top.
Title: Re: The truth about gortex? all leaked top brands.
Post by: C-Thru. on January 12, 2012, 07:36:55 pm
Brashers       Definatly!
just got a pair from Go-Outdoors £50.
best boots I've had on my feet for years.......

£50??? Shocked Shocked Shocked  What are you in, Kids sizes?? Wink


They were on sale the week before Xmas, down from £129 to £50.

keep your eye on Go-Outdoors, they have some Brashers made just for them, then sell em off cheap to get you on the store.
Will probably happen again within a month!
PS Mine are size 11, perfect fit! best boot for years on my feet!
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Post by: Crystal-clear on January 12, 2012, 07:42:53 pm
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/product-reviews/brasher-akutan-gtx-walking-boots-p153414

a person said he paid £50 looks like thats a deal