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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: AuRavelling79 on January 10, 2012, 06:14:46 pm

Title: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 10, 2012, 06:14:46 pm
Just got a call this afternoon from a guy saying he was from the Community Police Project (setting up a brochure to 25,000 local businesses .- exclusive deal within 25 mile radius - only wants reputable tradesmen - no rogue traders - Eastern Europeans (!) - really good deal) and that as a member of the Master Guild of Window Cleaners he knows I am genuine.

He got my latest mobile number by phoning home pretending to be a copper and blagging my mobile number off my daughter.

Watch out this is an old scam where they would go through yellow pages and phone up pretending that the NHS or the Fire brigade or the Police are setting up a brochure.

I have reported him to the police.

If you get similar you might want to let Nathanael Jones know (Master Guild) - I have just emailed him.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Dave Willis on January 10, 2012, 06:18:02 pm
I had the same some months ago.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: andyM on January 10, 2012, 06:22:29 pm
Had him phone me up this morning.
Why do these scammers always have a liverpudlian accent?
Anyway i've heard the spiel before so I just told him im not interested. But they are getting the info from the MGWC site.  >:(
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: carl stanton on January 10, 2012, 06:26:53 pm
tell him you have the fee in cash for him and some mates who wish to advertise as well
and option 1: send him round the cop shop
option 2: have some mates ready to show him how much you like his service

had him call some years ago, and then again more recent just said send me out some samples of the work ans some happy customers comments

still waiting  8)

but thanks so much for the heads up, what this is about
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: AJ on January 10, 2012, 06:37:21 pm
Liverpool accent?

if so, they've been trying it on for long time.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 10, 2012, 06:56:03 pm
yes rang me this morning too
name of paul
ringing me thursday afternoon  ;)
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: mikecam on January 10, 2012, 07:16:48 pm
I get loads of them ringing me. Can't stand them, curly headed, moustaced, tracksuit wearing nuisances.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Steve_c on January 10, 2012, 07:40:51 pm
Got the same today.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: spikecat on January 10, 2012, 07:45:26 pm
He rang me this morning, told him to text me his number and i will get back to him, needless to say no text from him.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: glen parva on January 10, 2012, 08:19:17 pm
had him ring me up today  ;D ;D
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: josh on January 10, 2012, 08:23:48 pm
They usually have a Liverpool accent as there have been a few companies around that area who have done similar scams with charity calenders, diary's, wall planners etc

Its common round there, selling supposed advertising or sponsorship of something for the emergency services or charity etc

Small call centre, staff on cash in hand.

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/wirral/Busadvpublications.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/4647512.stm

Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Pure Glass on January 10, 2012, 08:30:24 pm
Ditto. He said he'd get his publisher to call me. Got 2 calls one from an 0151 number and one from an 0161 number. I asked for a proof and he agreed to send one. So how does he get my artwork I asked at the end of the conversation. All went a bit quiet

Offered 4 different sizes from only 89 quid to £995 + vat. Be careful lads

Steve
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Steve_c on January 10, 2012, 08:48:01 pm
He told me you dont pay till you see the art work then 14 day to pay invoice. They/he must be watching this board.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: bobby p on January 10, 2012, 09:17:05 pm
even if it was genuine, theres precious few window cleaning jobs to be gained from coppers or firemen . they look after their own , wary dogs iv found
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Bay View WCS on January 10, 2012, 09:24:02 pm
I had a similar thing when I first started up.  They must have got my details from my new listing on Thompson Local.  As it was a new listing they probably figured I would be too green/inexperienced to question their integrity- more fool them- I ended up winding the fecker up so much he got his colleague to ring me and tell me I was out of order  ;D.

I asked this fella why they had targeted me and he admitted they get more response from new business owners as they might really need advertising and will fall for it and they haven't got enough experience to start asking the right probing questions.

I finished by stating clearly that I didn't want to hear from them again as I knew it was a scam- never heard a bean since- dodgy feckers  ::)
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 10, 2012, 09:58:51 pm
yes rang me this morning too
name of paul
ringing me thursday afternoon  ;)

He told me he knew where I lived and that he'd come round to my gaff at 6.30 this evening (after I told him he was a scammer and I was surprised he wasn't doing the "firemen charity scam" or  the "kiddies dying of cancer so help the NHS" scam ...) - I said great you can meet a real copper then ...  ;D

Smarmy git phoned my daughter and said "It's the Community Police Project, I need your Dad's mobile phone number, don't worry he hasn't done anything wrong ... "

I phoned the real police (999 jobby) and laid it on about not wanting my daughter being intimidated - but what can they do? They're Avon and Somerset and he's prolly in Greater Manchester.

Can Dean Taberner do anything?  
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 10, 2012, 10:03:10 pm
Thanks for the heads up on this Malc.

Just to be absolutely clear: The Guild has NOTHING to do with this, and it is a SCAM! Beware!

If someone could send me this guys number I'd love to have a quiet word with him,....  >:(
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Pure Glass on January 10, 2012, 10:38:33 pm
Nat/chaps

The numbers are: 0161 236 9865 and 0151 236 0741

These are the numbers for the alleged publisher, but he calls from a witheld number first. The publisher is probably on the desk opposite.

Steve
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 11, 2012, 08:33:09 am
Tried those numbers just now - first one was some sleepy geezer calling himself "Netsearch Media" - the second was Virgin's own  automated answering service.

Go figure?
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: andyM on January 11, 2012, 09:37:01 am
Thanks for the heads up on this Malc.

Just to be absolutely clear: The Guild has NOTHING to do with this, and it is a SCAM! Beware!

If someone could send me this guys number I'd love to have a quiet word with him,....  >:(

When I mentioned the MGWC is where they were getting the info from Nathanael it was because the caller mentioned the Guild in his conversation and its easy to get the information they require from the website. ie. business name, telephone number and contact name.
I've had phone calls from them over the past couple of years but I am aware of their scam so told him im not interested.
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: stec74 on January 11, 2012, 02:41:10 pm
hi i had a call from a man calling himself paul jones claiming to be part of west sussex community police yestreday asking me if i wanted to join the street scene mag. he then got somebody to call from mode pr (www.mode.com). his name was alex. he gave me all the talk about prices and things, anyway made a call to a fellow wc and he gave me the heads up about it being a scam, just 5mins ago he called back and i told him that he is all over the wc forums and he put the phone down. the number he rang from was withheld but the number from the so called alex from mode pr is (01512360741).
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Tom White on January 11, 2012, 04:08:42 pm
hi i had a call from a man calling himself paul jones claiming to be part of west sussex community police yestreday asking me if i wanted to join the street scene mag. he then got somebody to call from mode pr (www.mode.com). his name was alex. he gave me all the talk about prices and things, anyway made a call to a fellow wc and he gave me the heads up about it being a scam, just 5mins ago he called back and i told him that he is all over the wc forums and he put the phone down. the number he rang from was withheld but the number from the so called alex from mode pr is (01512360741).

For information on that number, click here:

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/01512360741
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: andyM on January 11, 2012, 04:18:43 pm
Well hopefully people will be more aware now and not get ripped off by these twats. 
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of WIndow Cleaners name as reference
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 12, 2012, 04:32:03 pm
yes rang me this morning too
name of paul
ringing me thursday afternoon  ;)

Did he call?
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: C-Thru. on January 12, 2012, 07:32:06 pm
I've had several of these calls, always reporting to be representing local Police and health Authority ect....
Always Scouser's on the other end always called JOHN.

last two calls I confirmed with them their contact details, once I'd done that I tell them that I have been recording this call and will be passing on to local Police, then the phone goes dead............. god they are so rude.......


Anyway haven't heard from them for two months now............
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: windowcleaninginessex.co.uk on January 13, 2012, 04:23:07 pm
I had it yesterday,  it was a bloke with southern accent. He was triying to offer all these packages and deals and wanted credit card details over the phone.

The phone number came up as blocked, I personally would not give any one any of my details if their number was withheld, blocked, looks funny or not showing for some reason.

In the end I just put the phone down on him, usually I do this straight away on these sort of numbers, but because he said he was from the police you listen for a little bit, he even said he will have a quick word with  his sargent to get a better deal, you just heard him talking to hisself, sounded really silly doing this.

Darren
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Inside Out on January 18, 2012, 07:26:34 pm
Paul Jones is still going! Got a call at about 12 today. With held number! Thanks to this post I didn't let him waste much of my time. As you say, when I told him I wasn't interested in advertising, the phone just went dead!

Nice one...
Title: Re: SCAMMER using Master Guild of Window Cleaners name as reference
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 18, 2012, 07:32:42 pm
called me again today
at 1pm lol said he was from wrexham nick
he hung up when i invited him to mine
to meet my friend pc hamner  ;D ;D ;D