Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pete jones on December 29, 2011, 08:56:17 pm
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Hi .I went to look at a white cotton corner suite with a large area of it covered in red wine.The stains are a week old and they had tried removal with white wine.The lady wants complete removal of stains.What are the chances please.Phil
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As it's white cotton the contrast between fabric and wine will be great, however it does give you greater room for trying slightly more extreme measures as bleaching is probably the result you will desire.
As such sod met and a hot iron might be the way to go but :-
you'll need to qualify your attempts as you want to be paid assuming you can get say at least 95% of the staining out, and
it couod be a long and fiddly job so price accordingly and only take the job on if both conditions agreed to by the potential client.
Rog
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They just have to wait a week. Why don't people just ring straight away?
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Hi .I went to look at a white cotton corner suite with a large area of it covered in red wine.The stains are a week old and they had tried removal with white wine.The lady wants complete removal of stains.What are the chances please.Phil
don't bother mate, not worth it.
if she'd of said try your best then what roger said would be my option, but from the way you put it it sounds best left alone.
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You could try a Chemspec browning precription to start allowing a decent dwell time then up the Ante.
BTW seasons greetings Rog and happy 21st...again ;D
Shaun
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I would have to agree with Derek on this one. Just tell her to ring insurance company mate.
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Use Hydramasters knock out, it'll take serval goes then finish with browning prescription rinse.
I get 100% success rate on wool, as long as customers not put other stuff on it. And I mean removing it without trace.
White wine won't matter.
****Not sure about cotton though.****
Oh and knock out should be the first thing to touch the stain, (not even water) if you try a load of other stuff first it won't work.
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So Craig recommends Knocking one out over stains!
Shaun
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Thanks, She wants 100% removal, so Derek, Rog ,and Monty , I will tell her ,phone insurance.I didnt think I could remove it .Thankyou and a happy new year.Pete.
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100% success is acheivable. You dont have any details where you are.
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Are you sure it is cotton? Or has the customer just said... 'It's cotton'.
has the suite been protected?
I would offer to attempt to remove it for a fixed fee and then if it doesn't come write a report to submit to the insurance company.
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I did one similar. A school teacher had a dinner party and after an argument one of her guests poured a whole bottle of red over her white cotton sofa. Got every drop out using Hydrogen Peroxide at 6% and a hairdryer.
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John did you use your hair drier or Lynns ;)
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Could have been Len's :o
Shaun
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Just as long as it's not Clintons poor lad will catch a cold :P
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Clinton uses Billys blower for his barnett :D
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Must have it completely removed would ring alarm bells with me, it may well come out but a good chance it wont come out completely and you wont get paid, lot of negative stuff about the NCCA is said on here but on the first page of the NCCA manual it says "never promise to remove a stain" i think that is very good advice. good luck if you do take it on.
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They just have to wait a week. Why don't people just ring straight away?
Because they dont want to pay someone to do it so try everything under the kitchen sink first ::)
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I did one similar. A school teacher had a dinner party and after an argument one of her guests poured a whole bottle of red over her white cotton sofa. Got every drop out using Hydrogen Peroxide at 6% and a hairdryer.
I would agree with John on this one. Had a few guys with this recently and the above has worked every time.
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I did one similar. A school teacher had a dinner party and after an argument one of her guests poured a whole bottle of red over her white cotton sofa. Got every drop out using Hydrogen Peroxide at 6% and a hairdryer.
I agree with John, not as bad as it sounds :)
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Hi all, i,m reading with great interest about Hydrogen Peroxide at 6% with hair dryer.
Could any one explain this to me.
Is there a particular product? Or can I buy HP from,I don`t know....a hair dresser??
HP at 6% with what? Water?
It sounds like just the thing I could do with.
Regards
George
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The product I said 'knockout' is a two part product of hydrogen peroxide and ammonium hydroxide freshly mixed works better on red wine than anything else I've ever tried, must acid rinse though or you may get browning.
Get it from Hydramaster.
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I use it as follows:
Pre-wet area including both stain and surrounding area with fresh water.
Using a paint brush or trigger spray apply Hydrogen Peroxide/Water @ 50/50 I use the stuff from local chemist at 60p bottle. Cant remember strength.
Warm gently with hair dryer and watch as it fades.
Rinse with handtool and cold water when done.
The knockout mentioned is similar to Chemspec Helpmate. The ammonium does the same action as the hair dryer providing a catalyst to speed the reaction.
I am not a huge fan of it on white cotton as it can be a little too agressive. At least with the hair dryer method you control the speed of reaction. I have to say though I have never used the knockout product. Its possibly not as strong as Helpmate / Dyegone.
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Interesting that's a cheaper alternative.
The Hydramaster product will be the same as Chemspecs as a lot of there stuff is made in the same factories in the US.
I recently seen chemspecs one they use the same mix sprayer as HM also.
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The Dye Gone & Helpmate are UK manufactured Chemspec products.
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On synthetics or commercial work I would still go with the 2 part stuff. The Hydrogen Peroxide method is cheaper but takes a lot longer. Fine if you have one bad spill on a nice piece. Not so good if you have a spills all over an office.
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soduim perborate (because the wine is a natural dye) and heat to over 70 degrees using whatever method you have.
best way is to mix the perborate powder into some warm water and then spray a small area with it. leave it 5 mins and then heat it up gently using either an iron or a hair dryer.
get the customer to sign it off first though.
just in case.
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Thanks guys...as always brill posts
i will be looking into them with great detail
once again thanks
regards
george