Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Robin Ray on December 22, 2011, 07:47:16 pm
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I just had a call from a customer who has had a burst vein. She has bled in her bedroom, bathroom and hall. Her brother has had a go with bicarbonate of soda with cold water and she has had a go with soap and water which is a pain, and the carpets wool. I was considering having a go with some enzymes or biological washing powder or prostain. Any other ideas how to tackle this are welcome. :-X
Thanks
Rob
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Rob, just do a google for a local pro carpet cleaner near you, he will be able to deal with this for you.
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Hi Paul,
Thank You for you enlightening response, how would you deal with this?
or is that how you tackle all your jobs?
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Enzall loves blood :P
Be warned, you might get wick back.
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Robin sometimes they can't help themselves!!!!
I have used stain pro to good effect but as Tony just mentioned wick back can be a problem, I always charge so I may have to go back again and tell them there is no additional charge for a return visit if the case arises.
Hope that's a bit more helpful.
Tony
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Thanks Carpet Dawg and Tony for you helpfull answers. ;D
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Wick back should never be a problem if the blood removal has been dealt with correctly in the first place. If your just doing straight top extraction then your always going to get wick back and should charge accordingly. However if you are called out for BLOOD REMOVAL, including sanitization ( basically doing it professionally) then thats what you should be doing and charging for.
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from the prochem web site
Take safety precautions to avoid infection or contamination. Apply Stain Pro and blot. Apply Rust Remover, wait 2-5 minutes and blot. Allow to react 5 to 15 minutes. Rinse thoroughly with water and blot until dry. It may be necessary to apply a solution of 30ml of Oxibrite per litre of water (subject to colour test).
If you need any assistance give me a call, as i see you are in Devon.
cheers
Paul
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Thanks Paul (Heath) thats excellent, thanks for the offer hopefully that info should sort it though.
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Best listen to Paul Moss being the PROFFESIONAL!!!!
Tony
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from the prochem web site
Take safety precautions to avoid infection or contamination. Apply Stain Pro and blot. Apply Rust Remover, wait 2-5 minutes and blot. Allow to react 5 to 15 minutes. Rinse thoroughly with water and blot until dry. It may be necessary to apply a solution of 30ml of Oxibrite per litre of water (subject to colour test).
If you need any assistance give me a call, as i see you are in Devon.
cheers
Paul
i must get a OAP call once a month to remove blood after a lower limb cut, I've never had to resort to such an extensive procedure, for prochem to offer such advice is wrong without giving the advice that at each stage repeat....then if the blood is still evident proceed to the next step. I can see someone trying Stainpro then going straight to rust remover without actually trying stainpro again.
I've got blood out on some carpets going straight in with just a freshwater rinse
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Mike
Paul Moss says your not a pro because that's not the correct way, althought being his usual helpful self he didn't tell Robin what the correct way was/is.
Tony
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As mike cold water rinse you can also use salt with the cold water, if you can get the carpet up see if its gone to the underlay if blood has spilt heavy it can be 4x the size on the underlay.
FOLLOW ALL H&S PROCEDURES] ::)
Charge for sanitising the area and your machine and hoses ect.
Best way i have found not to get wick back use a water claw.
The prochem route with stain pro is good you normally find rust remover to work well if the stain is old.
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Best listen to Paul Moss being the PROFFESIONAL!!!!
Tony
;D ;D ;D
http://www.aandmcarpetcare.co.uk/
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IJJIOT
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Paul
Being the pro you are when someone asks for help you should give it or keep shut!!!!
As we say in our house "keep it cute or keep it mute!!!!!"""
Thats all i am saying.
Thanks for the link to my web site, bit confused though!!!!
Tony
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:D
I thought the picture was you going in to spot the blood stain ;)
Have a nice Xmas :-*
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Thanks Carpet Dawg and Tony for you helpfull answers. ;D
Works best if you mix it up as normal then allow it to cool before applying.
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Merry Xmas to you too.
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Merry Xmas to you too.
Has some bad blood resurfaced.
Put some cold water on it and no heat. ;D
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Ha Wynne, dont know quite what the issue is but I quess there will be more blood spilt over time ;)
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If stain pro fails as it often does ,try ammonia,use a 10 to 15% mix if a large area or almost neat if a few blobs
acid rinse
happy xmas
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M power always does the trick on blood!
Cheers Goron
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In laundry we use soaking in cold water to break down the blood stains and I use a similar principle on carpets.
I spray on a little amount of cold water and leave it on the fibres for three to four minutes. Then give it a quick brush and extract with cold water. It always does the trick.
But where the customer has had a right bash at it - its much more difficult.
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Hi all,
Well I have done the job and it was a alright. It was a Berber carpet and the blood had been well washed in after the custys attempts. I gave it a rinse then a go with stain pro. and then again. It was difficult to see if there was anything left after being wet. I did have a go on one bit with prochem blood remover but I wasnt that impressed. I did give the rust remover ago which worked quite well. there isn't a massive chance of wick back as it was a fine spray rather than a big spillage however it did seem to have sprayed every where. I finished off with Mpower. I told her to give me a call if after everything if it did somehow reappear but they and I were both pleased.
Thanks for all those who gave helpful advice! :)
Paul (moss) i'm still wondering how you would have tackled the job ???
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Thorough COLD water rinse. Apply plenty of M Power at 80-1. Brush gently, leave for 10-15 mins. Cold rinse.
If brownish stains left use rust remover.
Use PPE and sort mc after.
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Hi all,
Well I have done the job and it was a alright. It was a Berber carpet and the blood had been well washed in after the custys attempts. I gave it a rinse then a go with stain pro. and then again. It was difficult to see if there was anything left after being wet. I did have a go on one bit with prochem blood remover but I wasnt that impressed. I did give the rust remover ago which worked quite well. there isn't a massive chance of wick back as it was a fine spray rather than a big spillage however it did seem to have sprayed every where. I finished off with Mpower. I told her to give me a call if after everything if it did somehow reappear but they and I were both pleased.
Thanks for all those who gave helpful advice! :)
Before i could answer i would need more info (Robin)
Paul (moss) i'm still wondering how you would have tackled the job ???
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What tends to often happen in cases of blood spills is someone in the house tackles it and pushes it further into the carpet and backing and the underlay.
If that happens then it will need a lot of rinsing to remove it.
If it's just on the surface it will probably come straight out with cold water rinsing but if it's been forced down deep then what might seem OTT solutions may be necessary.
Remember to thoroughly clean your machine and hoses after blood removal.
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I see the season of goodwill to all hasnt started yet for some then lmao....... Merry Christmas everyone ;D
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To stop wick back You need to get to the seat of the problem.
Wick back is only deep seated deposits coming back to the surface.
Get in there and flush it all out.
I would use Prochems stainpro sprayed in heavily agitate and leave to dwell
for 5 mins or so.
Then rinse extract with Fibre and Fabric rinse.
Rust remover only needs to be used if a brown residue [iron] is left.
Cheers
Expro
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Hi
With blood you need a biocide and cold water.
Blood is a pathogen so needs to be neutralized and it congeals under heat so cold water has to be used.
Martin 8)