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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: FCS on December 21, 2011, 10:12:04 pm

Title: booster pump location
Post by: FCS on December 21, 2011, 10:12:04 pm
just a quick poll, mine's located before the pre-filters but I was wondering if it'd make the RO more effective if it was immediately before the RO, not having to shove water through pre-filters, more pressure and all that... 

opinions please.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 22, 2011, 06:58:07 am
surely has to be before every time?  if it was after would be getting less pressure feed into it, my pump (Clarke cbm) is well up to job, but still needs sufficient water pressure and flow getting to it first.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: Ian101 on December 22, 2011, 07:08:59 am
how to turn water into beer

tap ... booster pump ,, prefilters ... 4040 ... DI Vessel ... IBC... then submersible pump .... van ... pole ... customers house ... get paid .... pub !!

simples  :D

Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 22, 2011, 07:36:51 am
how to turn water into beer

tap ... booster pump ,, prefilters ... 4040 ... DI Vessel ... IBC... then submersible pump .... van ... pole ... customers house ... get paid .... pub !!

simples  :D



 :) :) :) makes window cleaning suddenly seem so much more appealing.  Even at 7.30 in morning tho?  I have a problem!  ;D
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: Window Washers on December 22, 2011, 07:57:38 am
how to turn water into beer

tap ... booster pump ,, prefilters ... 4040 ... DI Vessel ... IBC... then submersible pump .... van ... pole ... customers house ... get paid .... pub !!

simples  :D


you forgot toilet  ;D
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: Justen Uff on December 22, 2011, 08:23:36 am
how to turn water into beer

tap ... booster pump ,, prefilters ... 4040 ... DI Vessel ... IBC... then submersible pump .... van ... pole ... customers house ... get paid .... pub !!

simples  :D



Brilliant!
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: gto on December 22, 2011, 09:22:46 am
surely has to be before every time?  if it was after would be getting less pressure feed into it, my pump (Clarke cbm) is well up to job, but still needs sufficient water pressure and flow getting to it first.


exactly the reply i put on the other site it was asked on yesterday.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: mark blundell on December 22, 2011, 12:06:48 pm
when i spoke to June at gaps water she said either way will work but ideally after the pre filters but as i understand it the reason for this is just to protect your pump as the filters have taken out any of the larger crap in the water.

i put mine before just because it was so much easier
 
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: gto on December 22, 2011, 12:14:32 pm
the way i see it is if the pump is 10lpm (made up figure), and the pre filters only let through say 5lpm then the pump wont receive enough water.

where if you have mains water to the pump then to the filters the pump is always fully supplied.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: FCS on December 22, 2011, 04:28:11 pm
well, I understand the logic, but more people on here have voted BEFORE pre-filters..  so far anyway..

and I know that just cos everyone's doing it doesn't make it right, but I think I'm gonna try it and check the readings, if the membrane starts being more efficient, then good and well, I can always change it back again if not.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 22, 2011, 04:58:34 pm
be interesting to see if there is a difference. shouldn't have thought would be big enuf debris in tap water to damage booster? tho I could be wrong.

oh, and post your results, if you get any difference!

:)
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: richard jagger on December 22, 2011, 08:23:07 pm
Your pre filter do not need pressure. The membranes need to be pressurized. So the booster pump must be before you membranes. 
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on December 22, 2011, 08:52:42 pm
I put a booster before pre-filters and it cracked 2 casings on the trot
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: Pureclean Essex Services on December 22, 2011, 09:04:41 pm
I put a booster before pre-filters and it cracked 2 casings on the trot

I've heard this before, 40/40 i think is rated to about 225ish psi, but the pre filters are a little less than this, I have my booster fitted after pre filters.

Brian.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 22, 2011, 09:40:45 pm
I would like to know who the one lucky person is that doesnt need a booster at all!
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: FCS on December 22, 2011, 09:56:42 pm
I would like to know who the one lucky person is that doesnt need a booster at all!

they DO need one, they just don't know it yet.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: richard jagger on December 22, 2011, 10:00:38 pm
Your survey shows how little people about R O s.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: andrewlefkas on December 22, 2011, 10:10:19 pm
I agree with wizz kid , and if you look on pure freedom site it mentions putting booster pump between pre-filters and membranes as thats where pressure is needed .Im using a water butt pump to pump through the pre-filters and have no problems with booster pump overdrawing ,normal diameter hosepipe going into RO pre-filters then quarter hose from pr-filters to booster pump and same to membranes .
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: FCS on December 23, 2011, 11:57:13 am
Just out of interest, what size hose is the outlet on your 20" pre-filter housings?

And do these vary with different manufacturers?

The reason I ask, if you could get a nice fat 15mm throughput, water would get through REAL quick, not causing a problem for the pump...
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 23, 2011, 12:45:09 pm
check pipe work in house too, you may have small feed to hose pipe anyway. also does depend on mains pressure and flow, but the bigger diameter inlet will help given right circumstances.

question to the smart arses that say booster after prefilters!

how do you gauge pressure then? when I flush system I know what pressure to set it back to for the correct pure to waste ratio. my pressure gauge is on pre filters. so booster needs to be before the pre filters surely? and if system is pressurized from booster to RO, does it matter if goes thru filters too while under pressure?

sure that's where June at gaps said best put too.
Title: Re: booster pump location
Post by: FCS on December 23, 2011, 10:03:15 pm
Well, thanks for all the replies folks, but the results of the poll seem inconclusive to say the least!

I'm no wiser, it seems you're all quite divided on the matter...