Clean It Up

UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on December 19, 2011, 07:51:36 am

Title: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on December 19, 2011, 07:51:36 am
I was wondering would linking up two vacs make for a faster drying time?
i have a steempro and a wet and dry vac which has 3 vac motors.
would it make any difference.
i have been wondering where to get a "y" piece tube to join them both up.

not saying i would use them all the time but just the odd job.

craig
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Colin Day on December 19, 2011, 07:56:59 am
I'm pretty sure HM sell 'Y' pieces.

Did you clean carpets at a place called 'The Barn" near Towednack by any chance?

Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Steve Rothwell on December 19, 2011, 07:59:09 am
This is what happens when you have too much spare time Colin.......


You start to think     :o




 ;D ;D
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on December 19, 2011, 08:07:15 am
no i havent colin? but i am intriqued as to why?
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Colin Day on December 19, 2011, 08:12:46 am
This is what happens when you have too much spare time Colin.......


You start to think     :o




 ;D ;D

It's Craig wanting a 'Y' piece.... Not me mate.... :)

Craig, I'm just using a process of elimination and wouldn't have thought for a minute it would be a proper carpet cleaner. You see, my brother in law moved into "The Barn" and said the carpets were wet for 3 days and they stunk. I just want to find the carpet cleaner/DIY enthusiast that cleaned them, to thank them as my brother-in-law's a pr**k..... ;D
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Steve Rothwell on December 19, 2011, 09:12:24 am
sorry Colin

it was early morning.........


Still stand by the statement though   ;D ;D
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 19, 2011, 09:14:18 am
Not sure how a Y tube would work , which machine would tale the water?
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Craig - CW Window Cleaning on December 19, 2011, 09:24:58 am
i guess both machines would take water!
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Kinver_Clean on December 19, 2011, 09:51:01 am
All the vacs would have to have the same performance or one would overpower the other.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: robert meldrum on December 19, 2011, 10:34:10 am
This has been done successfully ............there was a regular poster on here  a couple of years ago ran two machines one was a Ninja can't remember the other.  He ran them from a little Diahatsu which was big enough to cope and seemed to do very well with the set up.

Solutions sell a small machine which is designed for this purpose for about £600 or so.

Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Kinver_Clean on December 19, 2011, 11:00:28 am
The Solutions unit runs in series.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: John Milnes on December 19, 2011, 07:53:02 pm
Keep things simple. Just have one good machine rather than f**k about experimenting
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Jim_77 on December 19, 2011, 08:35:06 pm
:)

The forum's Search function should locate some of my old posts and those of Nigel_W for stuff about ninjas in parallel or with booster vacs

Trevor I'm surprised at your comment about the vac balance - Nigel's setup certainly wasn't, and mine was a pair of metal-horned (1400W?) motors in one machine and plastic (1200W?) in the other machine.  The one with the better motors just filled up a little quicker!
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Colin Day on December 19, 2011, 09:05:15 pm
Keep things simple. Just have one good machine rather than f**k about experimenting

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 19, 2011, 09:09:05 pm
Pretty sure Ashbys used to sell a kit for pairing Ninjas.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: john martin on December 19, 2011, 09:43:21 pm
To try it out straight away ...   (in parallel )

connect one porty ( strongest one )  to the open waste gate of the other  ...

waste water in first machine only .
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: John Milnes on December 20, 2011, 07:10:46 pm
Quote
To try it out straight away ...   (in parallel )

connect one porty ( strongest one )  to the open waste gate of the other  ...

waste water in first machine only .

And then trip the custys electrics ::)
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Robin Ray on December 20, 2011, 07:39:24 pm
Why would it trip the electrics?

Whenever a custy makes you a cup of tea while you are working its the same as using another porty in terms of power usage.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: will01 on December 20, 2011, 08:08:56 pm
I have this setup in my van with a raptor and prochem commanche joined together with a Y piece.

Both have 2x3 stage vacs (Commanche has been upgraded from 2x2 stage).

Great power and with the heat from the raptor I find it a great setup.

Commanche always fills up slightly before the raptor probably because the raptor is the taller machine and thus is slightly further away from the y piece than the commanche.

I also use the raptors pump and usually keep it between 200 - 300 psi.

Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: john martin on December 20, 2011, 08:52:12 pm
I have this setup in my van with a raptor and prochem commanche joined together with a Y piece.

Both have 2x3 stage vacs (Commanche has been upgraded from 2x2 stage).

Great power and with the heat from the raptor I find it a great setup.

Commanche always fills up slightly before the raptor probably because the raptor is the taller machine and thus is slightly further away from the y piece than the commanche.

I also use the raptors pump and usually keep it between 200 - 300 psi.



sounds good   ;D  four vacs and heat ... what every porty should have
would you seek out two house circuits for all that ?
good you upgraded the 2 stages otherwise total lift would be that of the weakest motor ... 95 instead of 140
so you should have 140" lift and 400 cfm  ...
perhaps using 2" off the Y would be beneficial if you don't already ... or even two lengths of  2" to the door and then the Y
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Len Gribble on December 20, 2011, 08:59:55 pm
It all sounds hard work or am I missing something  ::) ???
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on December 20, 2011, 09:16:48 pm
I have this setup in my van with a raptor and prochem commanche joined together with a Y piece.

Both have 2x3 stage vacs (Commanche has been upgraded from 2x2 stage).

Great power and with the heat from the raptor I find it a great setup.

Commanche always fills up slightly before the raptor probably because the raptor is the taller machine and thus is slightly further away from the y piece than the commanche.

I also use the raptors pump and usually keep it between 200 - 300 psi.



You could probably buy a second hand truckmount (a real one) for less the cost of them two machines.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 20, 2011, 09:46:41 pm
If you linked a less powerful single vac  2 stage machine to  the exhust of a more powerful twin vac 3 stage   ninja what would this do
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: john martin on December 20, 2011, 10:16:26 pm
If you linked a less powerful single vac  2 stage machine to  the exhust of a more powerful twin vac 3 stage   ninja what would this do

good question :/  should be no different than adding an additional series three stage to a twin three stage in that you still get the combined total ...
although it may affect CFM
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: robert meldrum on December 20, 2011, 10:20:01 pm
This thread got me wondering...............

Today I used a portable machine with a single three stage vac ( as the second vac died on me ) and a 150psi pump. I was dreading the outcome as I'd been in this position on more than one occasion with a Ninja which was useless on a single vac.

I was amazed and delighted to achieve an excellent result on all carpets throughout the house better than the past couple of years using a Bane which had been altered to increase both psi and airflow and before the Bane a twin vac 400psi Ninja.

I was using a 5 year old Cheyenne with two inch return hose, 150 psi pump, hot tap water, presprayed with ph 10 and water only in the tank ( our water is acidic }

Got me wondering if many are becoming unnecessarily " heavy handed " when cleaning resulting in overwetting due to too much pressure and over heavy application of presprays.

  
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 21, 2011, 08:31:36 am
If I get bored today I think I will hook together my 2 x PowRFlite PFX1350s and see how I go.
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: AJB on December 21, 2011, 12:59:59 pm
Good luck moving the Wonderwand  ;D
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 21, 2011, 01:38:39 pm
actually I am going to use a ChemDry wand lying in the workshop as it has 2 male connectors for mixing A&B
Title: Re: linking two portable hwe up
Post by: AJB on December 21, 2011, 05:58:16 pm
You only need to use the one pump and heater.
The second machine just use the vac' motors.