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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: d s windowcleaning on December 17, 2011, 10:31:32 pm
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can anyone give me a idea as to why ive been getting streaky windows .
ive been wfp for around 5 1/2 years and up until last week ive never once had this happen , the houses its happend on have been cleaned regular and never had a problem with them .
my water is 000ppm , brush is clean , i rinse well . but 4 houses this week have had streaky windows whats going wrong ?
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can anyone give me a idea as to why ive been getting streaky windows .
ive been wfp for around 5 1/2 years and up until last week ive never once had this happen , the houses its happend on have been cleaned regular and never had a problem with them .
my water is 000ppm , brush is clean , i rinse well . but 4 houses this week have had streaky windows whats going wrong ?
Are the frames milking?
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You are going to have to define streaky a bit more clearly to get an answer. Milking, run down, spots ? top windows, bottom windows?
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might be the weather
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I cleaned my own windows last week and they were ok afterwards, then the heavy rain came and the next day they were awful, streaky, dirty rain?
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I had a couple complain this week too.
The wind and rain were the corse as it was only the one side of each property
Art
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There's been so seriously bad storms recently and some very extremely rough seas out in the atlantic and over an incredibly large area. The salt from the sea can get picked up and can get carried hundreds of miles before getting bought back down to earth by the rain.
I live on the coast anyway so streaky windows with wfp isn't that rare but inland, it only happens every so often and the weather in terms of meteorology recently has been more than unusual.
Even if windows are done trad style and dry within seconds, around here when a SW'ly gale has been, the glass can look perfectly clean but go back 10 minutes later and it'll be covered in white lines from the edges of the squeegie blade.
That's my guess anyway.
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on one of my shops last week, one of my lads must have left over 5 million spots, he was newish to wfp and got caught out by the salty windows
I didnt count them, but bear in mind the shop is 250 metres long.
When i saw them i cringed, but as we clean it every other day, i knew we could correct it soon enough before we got a complaint
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can anyone give me a idea as to why ive been getting streaky windows .
ive been wfp for around 5 1/2 years and up until last week ive never once had this happen , the houses its happend on have been cleaned regular and never had a problem with them .
my water is 000ppm , brush is clean , i rinse well . but 4 houses this week have had streaky windows whats going wrong ?
Are the frames milking?
no frames not milking
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You are going to have to define streaky a bit more clearly to get an answer. Milking, run down, spots ? top windows, bottom windows?
its happend on both top and bottom windows , best way for me to explain the streak would be to say if you was to soap a window up and then squeegge off but leave a bit then you would be left with the type of streak thats been happening .
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might be the weather
weathers been fine all day on the days i cleaned them no strong winds or any rain . the customers have noticed these streak marks on the day of cleaning and let me no the same day .
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maybe a trad cleaner is sabotaging ur work in hope u will lose it i say a trad cleaner coz they would have soapy water to hand but could be any window cleaner possibly have u had any run ins with others bout patches etc
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Are you still chucking Isopropanol in your tank? Do you use a holding tank? Are you using a new reel or maybe the brush got contaminated with something. Were the properties cleaned around the same time?
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i recon cold weather can make them look streaky trad when blading off but wfp steaky? thats a new one on me!
the only thing i can think of is what salready been suggested really
let us all know what you find out its an interesting topic (for me at least)
george
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had real problems saturday had a large house to clean gave it a good scrub and a double rinse some of the glass left areas that the dirt had not come off fully ,had to rinse 4 times seemed to do the trick ,can only guess the wind had caused the salt/ dirt to be hard impacted on the glass.hope it rains heavy soon ;D ;D ;D
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goooood its juststarted raining ;D ;D
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Are you still chucking Isopropanol in your tank? Do you use a holding tank? Are you using a new reel or maybe the brush got contaminated with something. Were the properties cleaned around the same time?
not got any ipa in my water , yes i use a holding tank but water is 000ppm , no new hose its the same as being used all the time , properties were cleaned all within a few days of each other , brush is allways looked after in the same way cleaned out regular using just pure water .
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i recon cold weather can make them look streaky trad when blading off but wfp steaky? thats a new one on me!
the only thing i can think of is what salready been suggested really
let us all know what you find out its an interesting topic (for me at least)
george
ive been back to my relations today and re-cleaned them and they were definatley streaky , there was no wind yesterday so cant really think anything was blown on the glass , it was every window on the house that had streak marks on i just cant work out whats gone wrong .
in all the time of being wfp ive never had anything like this happen then i get 4 happen within a week its relly puzzled me as to why .
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U havent washed you van with the brush have you?
We cleaned the van once when the van had not long had wax
Applied and the consequences were streaky windows!!
Just a thought.
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Have the windows got vents above? Do you clean the top of the window frame?
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hi dave
is the custy cleaning them with something in between ?
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Its the wind, the frames will be lagged with salt at the moment
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Its the wind, the frames will be lagged with salt at the moment
reallt? thats interesting dave
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U havent washed you van with the brush have you?
We cleaned the van once when the van had not long had wax
Applied and the consequences were streaky windows!!
Just a thought.
no not washed the van have thought of that but use a diffrent brush on the motor .
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Have the windows got vents above? Do you clean the top of the window frame?
no vents . and ive allways cleaned the tops of the frames .
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Its the wind, the frames will be lagged with salt at the moment
im in yorkshire dave do you really think salt would effect the frames here ?
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hi dave
is the custy cleaning them with something in between ?
this is a big NO mike all my customers from when i first started have been told to phone me if there was any problem , its only over the last week ive had any problem i really cant figure out as to whats going wrong .
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Well, if you are re-cleaning them and they come up fine then whatever it was has gone away again. Guess you are never going to find out. My guess would be extra filth on the glass from the bad weather, you not noticing it and cleaning normally like we do on a maintenance clean with minimum water when in fact they might need an extra rinse more like a first clean maybe.
Can't be your system if they are coming up ok now.
There were some tremendous winds up north the other week I seem to remember.
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its that barnsley water only fit for flushing toilet :o ;D
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another 1 today around 22 miles from the last problem windows so another re-clean (WHATS GOING WRONG ) IM PULLING MY HAIR OUT the little bit ive got left .
IVE rinsed , then rinsed some more and still end up with a problem .
IM not new to wfp and the houses are regular .
ITS the streaks i cant work out where from HELP PLEASE .
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can you get hold of another tds meter and check again? Is your transfer pump leaking oil and grease? Algae in either tank?
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dave have you cleaned some wooden windows recently ?
you know the ones with the non setting red putty, it sticks to the brush causing all sorts of
problems if not sorted , just a thought
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Good point Mike. Maybe change the brush or wash it in strong tfr or a degreaser of some sort.
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can you get hold of another tds meter and check again? Is your transfer pump leaking oil and grease? Algae in either tank?
ive double checked tds and its on 000ppm , theres no leaks from transfer pump and not a drop of oil , as for algee in the tank thats a BIG NO NO .
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dave have you cleaned some wooden windows recently ?
you know the ones with the non setting red putty, it sticks to the brush causing all sorts of
problems if not sorted , just a thought
I no what you meen with the putty mike but ive only 2 houses on my round that have wooden windows and ive done these for years , im going barmy here as i allways give 100 % on my work AND NOW the problems are starting , i just cant seem to find out the cause .
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I spoke to one of my customers today whos windows were streaky , he then remembered he had sprayed wd40 on the door lock .
Could wd 40 have got on my brush i wonder ?
Im still awaiting a reply from my relation to see if shes done anything like spray wd 40 on the locks .
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ive often worried about getting oil and stuff off of doors actually! im gonna start soaking my brush in pure water overnight a bit more regular i recon like maybe once a week from now on
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Pure water won't clean your brush - you need to degrease it.
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had a problem like this once when we had cleaned a window which had been recently glazed using silicone.
the silicone got in the brush and loads of windows were left streaky afterwards until we sussed what had happened.
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Pure water won't clean your brush - you need to degrease it.
so how would one degrease a brush?
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TFR, ubik2000, Virosol, Detergent, Cillit Bang degreaser - anything that would break down dirt and grease. Pure water is really just a carrier to take the loose dirt away from the glass. It has little cleaning effect really. It doesn't eat algae, cut through dirt or burn holes in clothes although some think it does.
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I've had streaks from leaching rubber seals. Particularly the white ones that go all soft and oily with age.
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well relation got in touch tonight and shes not used anything like wd 40 so still puzzled as to whats gone wrong .