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Title: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Erithwc on December 05, 2011, 12:35:29 pm
first day with a van mount and what a waste of money spent all my time pulling hose around im totally fed up.  >:( >:(
plus a trolley is safer h&s wise as their isn't hose trailing over paths ect  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

think im going to sell the system and my 25 ltr trolley and get a 50 ltr trolley instead.

the only new item i like was my slx25  ;D ;D nice piece of kit
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 05, 2011, 01:00:43 pm
Give it time mate!!

you will get the hang of trailing the hose about in time ;)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Ste M on December 05, 2011, 01:11:36 pm
yes i think everyone on the first few days would of said the exact same thing. wont be long till you get the hang of it though and you'll wonder how you got by without one for so long
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: easy clean on December 05, 2011, 01:12:01 pm
Good luck! Do you enjoy lifting containers in and out of your van all day then?

Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Ross G on December 05, 2011, 02:52:42 pm

Definately don't be to hasty give it time , once it becomes normal working practice you'll look back on that post and say what a bell end i was life now is sooo good. If you're out and it's getting you down  have a wee session on the back pack( you do have one don't you ?) then get back to it again.
All the best ;)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: andyM on December 05, 2011, 02:54:18 pm
First day  with a van mount: posted at 12:35pm  ???
Not even enough time to get dog crap on your hose!  ;D
Van mount is not for everyone but give it a chance and im sure you will get used to it.
In 99% of cases I find its the only way to work  8)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: TomCrowther on December 05, 2011, 03:38:22 pm
I don't even think about my hose any more, you will soon get the hang of it.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: dave f on December 05, 2011, 04:00:57 pm
i was the same once u get the knack you will wonder what the fuss is about just a tip get a back pack great bit of kit youll save even more time best £140 spent  ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 05, 2011, 04:39:25 pm
First day  with a van mount: posted at 12:35pm  ???
Not even enough time to get dog crap on your hose!  ;D
Van mount is not for everyone but give it a chance and im sure you will get used to it.
In 99% of cases I find its the only way to work  8)


;D like everyone says, give it a go. once you get used to it I'm sure you'll find it easier. you will also find better and more efficient ways of messing around with reels etc too.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: weetot on December 05, 2011, 06:06:52 pm
Give it time, I used a trolly for 3 years and couldnt go back to humping that and 25 L cans out all the time.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Smudgeoff Cleaning Services on December 05, 2011, 06:41:05 pm
You will get to grips with it mate. The fact that the weather is getting colder isn't helping as the hose gets stiff. Keep trying you'll love it come spring.

Daz
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 05, 2011, 06:43:05 pm
just ask dazmond what he thinks of using a trolley ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: bad trippy on December 05, 2011, 06:47:54 pm
How much do you want for it?
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: john entwistle on December 05, 2011, 06:50:43 pm
first day with a van mount and what a waste of money spent all my time pulling hose around im totally fed up.  >:( >:(
plus a trolley is safer h&s wise as their isn't hose trailing over paths ect  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

think im going to sell the system and my 25 ltr trolley and get a 50 ltr trolley instead.

the only new item i like was my slx25  ;D ;D nice piece of kit
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Brodex eco-trolley m8 ya cant go wrong
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 05, 2011, 07:04:37 pm
first day with a van mount and what a waste of money spent all my time pulling hose around im totally fed up.  >:( >:(
plus a trolley is safer h&s wise as their isn't hose trailing over paths ect  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

think im going to sell the system and my 25 ltr trolley and get a 50 ltr trolley instead.

the only new item i like was my slx25  ;D ;D nice piece of kit

Felt like setting my van alight a few times in the early weeks  ;D .
It gets easier to manage the hoses though.
Give it time.  You'll be OK.
BTW.  Are you using micro or mini-bore hose.  It's much easier to handle than the half inch stuff.  Also, make sure that you have the type of hose that doesn't kink and does lay flat.  Smaller bore hose doesn't get stuck on the axles of wheelie bins either  ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: WISEOWL on December 05, 2011, 07:10:02 pm
My first day with the van I pulled out about 50 metres of hose then went cleaning, what a mess!!

Three years later I have perfected where to park for what house, which gates to open first, which house I can sling the pole over the fence to stop pulling it around un-needed etc...

Trust me, when you're cleaning a dozen houses with one stop of the van and all the water you need to do so you'll thank us.

Plan, practice and anticipate.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Erithwc on December 05, 2011, 07:15:50 pm
i think i have calmed down a bit now i will give it till the new year with the van mount. i think i need an aquadapter for my pole and fix the reel in the van  :) :)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: PURER CLEAN on December 05, 2011, 07:48:02 pm
ive got my 500lt tank + 40.40 system in my shed, its fully lagged out with a heater in there just in case  ;)
i use a trans pump to fill 12 25lt tubs that i have in my van.
from start to finish it only takes about 15 mins tops to fill the tubs  ;)
And i think the Trolley T35.  35 litre capacity trolley is the best, does penty of window on just 1 fill,
& i only have to charge it once a week  ;D ;D ;D ;D HAPPY DAYS  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: JSMC on December 05, 2011, 08:21:10 pm
ye will get the hang of it mate. once ye get by snagging on everything you will enjoy using a van mount ;D drag the hose to the furthest working point and work yer way back.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: lcwalker on December 05, 2011, 08:21:33 pm
Hi i use a backpack but also do some trad aswell,a van mount wouldn't be great for me as i use different vehiles, but i may well invest in a trolley if my round gets bigger.Theres one thing that has baffled me i have a shurflo backpack and when it full it's heavy is there anyone who can actally carry it on there back?.I just carry it around thats why a trolley would make things alot easier.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: brianbarber on December 05, 2011, 08:27:48 pm
Try he Gardiners hose reels,
Very light , and I think them saving on reeling the hose back in, the PF one I had was too small for the 100m of hose.
Second to my slx, this has saved me so much time each day.
If you can stick a aquarium heater in tank night before, just having water few degrees above freezing makes hoses easier to handle


Mr B
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: dazmond on December 05, 2011, 08:49:59 pm
i used a p/f trolley for a year(50l version).been using my 350L TANK since may.the van mount is so much better!i use 100m of microbore on a cheap gardiners lightweight reel.25ft SLX with aqua-daptor and extreme brush.the trolley stays in the van hooked up to the tank.

today it was horrible weather wise.sleet,hail,rain and wind.worked 930am-330pm.13 jobs and still earned £170.you ll get the hang of it!! ;D ;D ;D

i couldnt imagine lugging 25L BARRELS about like i used too.dont be a fool!give it a few months and youll be wondering how you possibly could of wasted time with barrels!!!

van mount for all my work now!! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: mikecam on December 05, 2011, 08:56:15 pm
Hi i use a backpack but also do some trad aswell,a van mount wouldn't be great for me as i use different vehiles, but i may well invest in a trolley if my round gets bigger.Theres one thing that has baffled me i have a shurflo backpack and when it full it's heavy is there anyone who can actally carry it on there back?.I just carry it around thats why a trolley would make things alot easier.
I'm sure there is people who can carry them, none that i know of want to carry them on their back though. I'm still getting round to getting a small sack trolley for mine... ;D  I'm making it a priority for the new year  ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: mikecam on December 05, 2011, 08:57:47 pm
First day  with a van mount: posted at 12:35pm  ???

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: tacky on December 05, 2011, 09:08:58 pm
if u have the shurflo bp .get a small sack trolley .i have the wcw bp .it has a handle easier to carry ,
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Frankybadboy on December 05, 2011, 09:30:17 pm
Hi i use a backpack but also do some trad aswell,a van mount wouldn't be great for me as i use different vehiles, but i may well invest in a trolley if my round gets bigger.Theres one thing that has baffled me i have a shurflo backpack and when it full it's heavy is there anyone who can actally carry it on there back?.I just carry it around thats why a trolley would make things alot easier.
I'm sure there is people who can carry them, none that i know of want to carry them on their back though. I'm still getting round to getting a small sack trolley for mine... ;D  I'm making it a priority for the new year  ;D
i done my first 6mths every day carrying it on me back there is a nack to doing this,no your right its not easy but hey.

i now use only a few times a months on some jobs,that need it. as we now have a 2man van mount.but i still get it on me back with no problems.
so quick for these jobs.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Ross G on December 05, 2011, 11:58:55 pm
ive got my 500lt tank + 40.40 system in my shed, its fully lagged out with a heater in there just in case  ;)
i use a trans pump to fill 12 25lt tubs that i have in my van.
from start to finish it only takes about 15 mins tops to fill the tubs  ;)
And i think the Trolley T35.  35 litre capacity trolley is the best, does penty of window on just 1 fill,
& i only have to charge it once a week  ;D ;D ;D ;D HAPPY DAYS  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Hey I'm looking for a transfer pump what make have you got ?
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Londoner on December 06, 2011, 07:45:11 am
I never liked trying to drag hoses out all the time . I take the pole and reel to the farthest point (I have nice light microbore hose) and run the hose back to the van and plug it in. I find that easier and quicker than trying to drag out a hose from the van.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 06, 2011, 08:11:10 am
I never liked trying to drag hoses out all the time . I take the pole and reel to the farthest point (I have nice light microbore hose) and run the hose back to the van and plug it in. I find that easier and quicker than trying to drag out a hose from the van.

seriously?! unless I've misread you, isn't that the same as pulling the hose from the van, other than its in reverse! and you now have to carry the reel further!  ???

I do think you need to experiment, for me plonking the reel on the floor at the back of van works, I can aim it any direction then. for some its having it fixed to bed of van. for Vince its carrying the hose reel round with him!  ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: dazmond on December 06, 2011, 08:11:50 am
How does that work Vince?surely leaving reel next to van and grabbing pole and end of microbore and walk to your furthest job and working back is the best and only way? ???
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Pureclean Essex Services on December 06, 2011, 11:11:54 am
i think i have calmed down a bit now i will give it till the new year with the van mount. i think i need an aquadapter for my pole and fix the reel in the van  :) :)


I cant understand why people dont fix reels in van, i used to have a trailer system, and had to keep getting reels from boot of car, then when finished pack them back in again, such a pain and a waste of valuable earning time, i now have van mount with fixed reels, and shaved a third of my working day compaired to trailer, keep at it fella, it does get easier.

Brian.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: PURER CLEAN on December 06, 2011, 03:41:31 pm
ive got my 500lt tank + 40.40 system in my shed, its fully lagged out with a heater in there just in case  ;)
i use a trans pump to fill 12 25lt tubs that i have in my van.
from start to finish it only takes about 15 mins tops to fill the tubs  ;)
And i think the Trolley T35.  35 litre capacity trolley is the best, does penty of window on just 1 fill,
& i only have to charge it once a week  ;D ;D ;D ;D HAPPY DAYS  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Hey I'm looking for a transfer pump what make have you got ?
Hello Ross G its a Clarke pump model number TAM 105 fittedwith Clarke number EPC 1000.
hope that helps ya mate, i think its a great bit of kit & wouldnt be with out it now ;)
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Erithwc on December 07, 2011, 02:19:15 pm
Right the company i contacted don't do ply lining kits for a vauxhall combo crew cab but i remembered that i had a metal fire guard in my lockup it will fit a treat just need to get some hollow square bar to make a frame to mount it to which shouldn't be hard as i can use my dads mig welder  ;D ;D

second problem was i didn't want to fit my Pole Flow Control Valve to my nice new slx25 so i have ordered a aqua-dapter

last thing i need to do is order some yellow cones  ;D ;D
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: Tom White on December 07, 2011, 03:24:18 pm
I never liked trying to drag hoses out all the time . I take the pole and reel to the farthest point (I have nice light microbore hose) and run the hose back to the van and plug it in. I find that easier and quicker than trying to drag out a hose from the van.

seriously?! unless I've misread you, isn't that the same as pulling the hose from the van, other than its in reverse! and you now have to carry the reel further!  ???

Course it's not.  You take the whole reel, especially easy if you have a reel with wheels on it, and you wheel it to the farthest point, and then you just leave the end of the hose by the window where you're going to start working, walk the hose reel back to the van, plug in, grab pole, return to where you're going to work, and start working.

It depends on the job and the obstacles, but it can be easier doing it this way; depending on the circumstances.  I'll do it on a couple of jobs where I need all 100 meters (or there abouts), and there's loads of obstacles which mean I can't just drag to hose to the starting point.
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: bumper on December 07, 2011, 03:35:31 pm
what i do is strap 2/ 25 litre barrels to my back with pump in 1 barrel and a piece tubing connecting to other barrel. and use my fibreglass pole to clean the windows after 1 house i go home coz i'm knackered
 ???
Title: Re: van mount what a waste of £500
Post by: AS Window Cleaning on December 07, 2011, 10:49:45 pm
what i do is strap 2/ 25 litre barrels to my back with pump in 1 barrel and a piece tubing connecting to other barrel. and use my fibreglass pole to clean the windows after 1 house i go home coz i'm knackered
 ???

 ;D ;D ;D

and interesting explanation tosh, tks. does it have wheels Vince? my hose reel is so damned heavy no way would it ever make sense dragging it up the road, then have to walk up to 100 metres back to van with it! but each to their own....... I'm still learning and picking up bits of useful info, tho won't b trying that one this time!