Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd on December 02, 2011, 04:08:22 pm
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c5_1322750046
BE CAREFUL TRADDERS!
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
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that bird was lucky as well
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that bird was lucky as well
Wow didnt notice that!
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what the heck is that chipmunk saying at the start ? lol !
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
very lucky that railing was there!
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Chipmunk ha ha I thought that too ;D
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
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hes only joking, we like to say it to wind the tradders up occasionally
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c5_1322750046
BE CAREFUL TRADDERS!
After many years of accident free ladder work I decided to change to wfp. After the change over I have had more near misses with the ladders than in all the time that I was tradding.
My reasoning as to why is simple. Working with ladders on a daily basis means that the skills needed are used all of the time, and a lot of practice keeps them honed.
With the change over to wfp the ladders don't come off nearly as often, and the skills slip a little. The head says "I can do that" but in reality much of the skill base has been lost through lack of practice.
So what I say is be extra careful if you are wfp, but still use a ladder for the odd thing here and there.
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
Did you read and understand the link. That link effectively bans the use of ladders for routine window cleaning. If you can do a job using a WFP, that's what should be used.
The Work at Height Regulations 2005 do not ban ladders. They require that ladders should only be considered where a risk assessment has shown that the use of other more suitable work equipment is not appropriate because of the low risk, and short duration of the task or considerations of where the work is located.
For the majority of routine window cleaning, WFP is appropriate.
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hes only joking, we like to say it to wind the tradders up occasionally
& it works ;D
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
Did you read and understand the link. That link effectively bans the use of ladders for routine window cleaning. If you can do a job using a WFP, that's what should be used.
The Work at Height Regulations 2005 do not ban ladders. They require that ladders should only be considered where a risk assessment has shown that the use of other more suitable work equipment is not appropriate because of the low risk, and short duration of the task or considerations of where the work is located.
For the majority of routine window cleaning, WFP is appropriate.
The statement was "ladders are banned"
And the link shows the law, that ladders are not banned.
Here's another for you.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/misc613.pdf
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everybody just ditch the ladders and invest in wp.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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As someone who uses ladders very occasionally and treats them with all the respect I can muster, can anyone tell me what actual mistake did the guy in the vid make?
Maybe someone should have been footing the ladder but trads don't foot ladders. How could he have prevented the accident without footing it?
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it was icy ground . i would have fastened my ladder to that rail with a strap
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yep done that twice!!ladder slipped back once on imprinted concrete and once on a mossy flag.years apart.luckily i was ok apart from a sore ankle and second time a sore back.landed on my heels both times.
i must have heels made of lead!i dont agree that because you use the ladders less if your wfp that its more dangerous!if anything it concentrates the mind more as your not up them day in/day out.
using ladders all the time makes you complacent.using them occasionally makes you realise the risks you took all day/every day for all those years! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
Did you read and understand the link. That link effectively bans the use of ladders for routine window cleaning. If you can do a job using a WFP, that's what should be used.
The Work at Height Regulations 2005 do not ban ladders. They require that ladders should only be considered where a risk assessment has shown that the use of other more suitable work equipment is not appropriate because of the low risk, and short duration of the task or considerations of where the work is located.
For the majority of routine window cleaning, WFP is appropriate.
The statement was "ladders are banned"
And the link shows the law, that ladders are not banned.
Here's another for you.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/misc613.pdf
Are ladders not banned then? thats odd, I was certain they were.
I have been telling my customers for years that trad guy are ilegal and they usualy dont bother with insurance coz if they fall the insurance is invalid so they sue the customer instead.
i better go knock a few door and put folk straight. ;)
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lol
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
Did you read and understand the link. That link effectively bans the use of ladders for routine window cleaning. If you can do a job using a WFP, that's what should be used.
The Work at Height Regulations 2005 do not ban ladders. They require that ladders should only be considered where a risk assessment has shown that the use of other more suitable work equipment is not appropriate because of the low risk, and short duration of the task or considerations of where the work is located.
For the majority of routine window cleaning, WFP is appropriate.
The statement was "ladders are banned"
And the link shows the law, that ladders are not banned.
Here's another for you.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/misc613.pdf
I used to have that document, it was written in 2003 and is superseded by WAHR 2005 ;)
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He was lucky that railing was there. It slowed his fall.
Where was this filmed? Obviously not in the UK as ladders are banned and no one in their right mind would use one these days. would they? :)
Where did you learn that from? (ladders are banned)
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/heightreg.htm
Did you read and understand the link. That link effectively bans the use of ladders for routine window cleaning. If you can do a job using a WFP, that's what should be used.
The Work at Height Regulations 2005 do not ban ladders. They require that ladders should only be considered where a risk assessment has shown that the use of other more suitable work equipment is not appropriate because of the low risk, and short duration of the task or considerations of where the work is located.
For the majority of routine window cleaning, WFP is appropriate.
The statement was "ladders are banned"
And the link shows the law, that ladders are not banned.
Here's another for you.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/misc613.pdf
Yep, misc613 - that's well out of date. WAHR 2005 is the authoritative document.
It's not complicated; ladders are not to be used as a 1st means of access, and if there's a safer way of accessing windows other than working at height (i.e. using ladders 'n' stuff), and it's reasonably practical to do so, then ladders shouldn't be used.
Common sense really.
So ladders aren't banned, but their use is severely restricted.
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As someone who uses ladders very occasionally and treats them with all the respect I can muster, can anyone tell me what actual mistake did the guy in the vid make?
Maybe someone should have been footing the ladder but trads don't foot ladders. How could he have prevented the accident without footing it?
The man made two basic mistakes: firstly he didn't check the ladder footing to make sure the feet had firm ground under them to prevent slipping (if he had he would either have not set the ladder or would have taken some precaution to prevent it slipping); secondly he set the ladder with the styles in contact with the railing so when he climbed the flex of the ladder caused it to pivot at the point of contact and lifted the feet enough to start the slide.
As someone pointed out earlier, he should have attached the ladder to the railing - a bungee would have been ideal.
Yet again it proves the point: ladders are not dangerous, it's the user that causes the accident.
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Good counter-balance though.
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fireman!