Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lee michaelmckenna on November 30, 2011, 09:23:49 pm
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Whats the best way 2 soften the NEW scrim," Grade A" quick as possible, so we can use it to work!!
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boil them. stick them on a boil was in machine 2 or 3 times
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I used to use them on frames and sills when they were new, then hot wash them. I use microfiber cloths these days.
John
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i use the new ones to wipe the sills on my van to break them in then wash them a few times then back on the van sills ,floor ,then wash etc
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fanks i hv boiled washed them now 3 times in a row, still smearing the glass n not very good, leaving smears..
using them as sill cloths 2 start of with, gr8 idea,
Microfiber, how to u rate them, ive heard, u need so many more of them as they get soaked very quick??
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how are you drying them? dry them in tumble dryer after each was that livens them up.
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Tumble dry . . it will now be...ta
am i making the mistake in not washing them wi any wash powder or conditioner??
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no need for powder or softener, will still take a few washes though. I dont like microfiber for wiping edges, scrim is much better, microfiber is great for leaded though
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fantastic, thanks so much
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40cm x 40cm glass cloths from paragon trust me these are better than scrims and made for glass cleaning and I detail my windows with them.
When scrims are damp it's very hard to reduce the hazy marks left behind on glass they look ok until the sun shines
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Paragon.......who is your supplier buddy..sounds good
n how to u wash them
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i just wash with small amount of powder no conditioner tho,unger microfibre are brill for leaded much quicker but yes they do get wet quicker so i use scrim for my small openers,im breaking some new scim in now a pain at first till the loose fibres are removed prob best to use as frame and sills for a few days first as they take about a week break 1 in
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Paragon microfibre and look at the glass cloths 40cm I promise you there great
Did scrims for 7 years until buying these. Even rubbing down leaded glass there awesome!!
Normal wash at 40 but you can wash at 90 if there needed
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Thanks Jackal...
Up here in Bonny Land lol... Scotland, well in my run, not much lead windows... fankfully.... going to get some to try, nothing ventured nothin gained eh
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have we gone back 7 years with this post? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
bin the scrim and get some microfibre cloths!the flatweave blue ones or the large unger microwipes(snot green ones!).
they are far superior to scrim.buy them in packs of 10.they will last you years!!you can use them straight out of the packet.no breaking in and no cloth fibres on the windows!!
i have 1 scrim left from my trad days.hardly gets used unless its a very damp day.i wont be buying anymore as theres no need for them plus the scrim you get these days is nothing like the tough thick stuff i used to get in the early 90s! ;D ;D ;D
if you want to keep hold of em.boil them in a large pan or boil wash in machine then use them as sill cloths for a few weeks and theyll be ready to use for detailing and buffing little openers.
never use fabric softener when washing scrim or microfibres.just a little bit of cheap washing powder will do!! ;) ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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dazmond.....fanks good advice
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Microfiber is horrible for normal blade work, they get we far to quickly, and they need replacing after a year, try doing leaded windows with an old microfiber cloth then do one with a new microfiber cloth you will see the difference, they loose their ability to absorb properly.
You can't beat a worn in standard scrim for blade work, you just can't!!!
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Microfiber is horrible for normal blade work, they get we far to quickly, and they need replacing after a year, try doing leaded windows with an old microfiber cloth then do one with a new microfiber cloth you will see the difference, they loose their ability to absorb properly.
You can't beat a worn in standard scrim for blade work, you just can't!!!
I couldn't I agree more microfibre cloths don't work on detailing glass they wet it more but these are not standard microfibres there 70% polyester 30% polymide try a few there under £1 each. No more smears on glass again!!!
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i think your talking rubbish guys!microfibre cloths are great.last ones lasted me 2 years.ive got the unger microwipes(large ones).great for detailing and buffing little openers.
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i think your talking rubbish guys!microfibre cloths are great.last ones lasted me 2 years.ive got the unger microwipes(large ones).great for detailing and buffing little openers.
That's correct daz ;D we are talking sense lol... That's what I use there the same as the unger microwipes made by paragon
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Excuse me for being a pedantic old git but scrim is not intend for drying. It is intended for buffing (shining to use the old window cleaners word). If people still used shammys, which they dont because they don't know how to you wouldn't ask these questions. You could use one shammy all day to do your drying off/ detailing then a little tickle with the scrim to buff off any marks.
Instead now they smear the windows trying to dry them off with wet scrims. Microfibre is very good but you only use it like you would a shammy and you can't wring it out in the same way.
But don't bother listening to me, nobody else does
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;D
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What ones do you get on the paragon site.I cut my scrims in half .
What would you recommend please ?
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Well im with Dazmond I only like the flat weave microfibres the other almost fluffy or bobbly sort for want of a better word are only fit for sill cloths.
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What ones do you get on the paragon site.I cut my scrims in half .
What would you recommend please ?
I buy the 40 x 40 glass cloths in green as the my microfibre cill wipes are blue ;D god I'm starting to sound OCD now lol.
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Thanks AVO
My cill cloths are blue also lol
Soo vince Green
Would you care to explain the shamy method
I like the idea of one shamy all day being a tight git :D
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Excuse me for being a pedantic old git but scrim is not intend for drying. It is intended for buffing (shining to use the old window cleaners word). If people still used shammys, which they dont because they don't know how to you wouldn't ask these questions. You could use one shammy all day to do your drying off/ detailing then a little tickle with the scrim to buff off any marks.
Instead now they smear the windows trying to dry them off with wet scrims. Microfibre is very good but you only use it like you would a shammy and you can't wring it out in the same way.
But don't bother listening to me, nobody else does
Eh, what's that, did you say something. ;D
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I think some of you guys need to buy some high quality flat weave microfibres. Seriously.
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Thanks AVO
My cill cloths are blue also lol
Soo vince Green
Would you care to explain the shamy method
I like the idea of one shamy all day being a tight git :D
You buy a GOOD quality shammy and soak it in clean water, then wring it out really tightly, MEGA tightly, and give it a few flicks.like you are cracking a whip. Use it for detailing or drying off but when it starts to get wet wring out the same way again.
after you have used the shammy the glass should be dry, maybe the slightest hint of haze,a quick buff with the scrim removes any drying marks that may be lurking or forming.
Maybe twice in the day re-wet it in the clean water to freshen it up and remove any soap residue.
You have to break in a new shammy because it will contain chemicals from the tanning and some lanolin because thats what they use to soften the leather. When its grey its perfect.
Am I the only window cleaner left who started out using a shammy?
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i use both unger green microfibre and scrim and always carry 1 of each, microfibres are brill but get wet way to quick else i wouldnt bother with scrim,but 1 or 2 scrim can last all day and i dont have problems with them leaving any bits or marks on the windows unless direct sunlight beaming on the glass,either way they are both great cloths to use
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I preffer the HUCK towell, I found a load in a bin whilst on holiday in the U.S.A.
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I preffer the HUCK towell, I found a load in a bin whilst on holiday in the U.S.A.
;D
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Cheers,going to give the shamy ago.
Umm who sales them ;D
Got to see how it used to be done I think ,never know
to you try it .
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microfiber is fine in summer but its to damp here in scotland to use for long,grade b srim is the only srim i buy.works much better than b for me. :)
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40cm x 40cm glass cloths from paragon trust me these are better than scrims and made for glass cleaning and I detail my windows with them.
When scrims are damp it's very hard to reduce the hazy marks left behind on glass they look ok until the sun shines
i can clean windows with one damp scrim and they r perfect
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I can clean all day with a scrim.But I can clean hell of a lot quicker with a dry scrim.time is money 8)
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i use 2 scrims, 1 to clean, the other dryer one to finish off. sometimes i feel like using one some do
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Have just ordered them glass cleaning 40cm microfibres from paragon. Will see how they go. Hope they work, lot cheaper then a scrim. Got 10 for £13 including p&p
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hi ya :) with all this wet weather i would not bother detailing, any mistakes you make will soon be washed of ;D,
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Thanks AVO
My cill cloths are blue also lol
Soo vince Green
Would you care to explain the shamy method
I like the idea of one shamy all day being a tight git :D
You buy a GOOD quality shammy and soak it in clean water, then wring it out really tightly, MEGA tightly, and give it a few flicks.like you are cracking a whip. Use it for detailing or drying off but when it starts to get wet wring out the same way again.
after you have used the shammy the glass should be dry, maybe the slightest hint of haze,a quick buff with the scrim removes any drying marks that may be lurking or forming.
Maybe twice in the day re-wet it in the clean water to freshen it up and remove any soap residue.
You have to break in a new shammy because it will contain chemicals from the tanning and some lanolin because thats what they use to soften the leather. When its grey its perfect.
Am I the only window cleaner left who started out using a shammy?
Hi Vince
i totally agree with you, the trouble is most window cleaners dont know how to use a shammy and scrim they either have shammy too wet and this leads to scrim getting wet then they havnt got the ability to wring scrim dry enough so this ends up with them leaving the windows a mess and blaming the equipment they are using, when i first started window cleaning my dad wouldnt give me a squeege for 12 months, he insisted i shammy and scrimmed everything this included large windows in university buildings when heavy smoking was allowed he called it character building for me ;D
I do think microfibre cloths are brilliant for some jobs though, on maintenance internal cleans they are brilliant espeacially if just removing fingermarks from internal doors or from office windows where there are lots of papers on sills, i find them only good if windows are done regularly if windows are dirty or not don regular enough then i dont think they are much use.
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Best microfibre cloths I have found are unger blue and a dark blue micro from puundland.brilliant they are,u can find them in car wash section DIY.they can absorb so much water.paragon ones are rubbish.
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Best microfibre cloths I have found are unger blue and a dark blue micro from puundland.brilliant they are,u can find them in car wash section DIY.they can absorb so much water.paragon ones are rubbish.
Yeah i've got some of the Paragon blue ones, had them about a year and I don't think they are that good. :-\