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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: oliver collins on November 21, 2011, 08:23:50 pm

Title: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: oliver collins on November 21, 2011, 08:23:50 pm
Hi Guys

Any reviews on which is better need a new upholstery tool my old one is batty now

Any views welcome

Oliver Collins
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 21, 2011, 08:49:21 pm
Sapphire scientific is a fanastic tool, never use anything else.

Simon
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 21, 2011, 09:06:22 pm
I have both and much prefer my CFR

Shaun
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Paul Moss on November 21, 2011, 09:11:06 pm
Naa SS every time.

Simon that one you sent me has amazing drying.
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 21, 2011, 09:33:23 pm
Nothing but the best for you, Mossy ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: petermaybury on November 21, 2011, 09:33:54 pm
I have tested the cfr alonside my prochem tool and have not seen any noticable diference in performance. The cfr however is considerably heavier and very often we are doing 100 s of seats at a time and I think that having that in my hand over a long period would create a lot more fatigue.
I also have a drimaster tool which does give better results and drying times than the prochem and is in my opinion a much nicer tool. It is lighter nice to use and the fact that it does not have a trigger makes it nice tool use for long periods.
I would like a vs sapphire as I have heard glowing reports from people who do big volume upholstery and know what they are talking about. Unfortunately I do have a very long shopping list so will defer the decision as I already have 4 diferent tools.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com (http://www.carpetcleanercardiff.com)
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 21, 2011, 11:07:08 pm
Someone hold me back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Billy Russell on November 21, 2011, 11:17:39 pm
Someone hold me back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 ;D ;D

Copy and paste springs to mind!!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 21, 2011, 11:19:36 pm
Can't do it, brings back too many painful memories :'(
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: james roffey on November 22, 2011, 01:30:15 pm
I have the Saphire and its the best things i ever brought.
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: clarkson on November 22, 2011, 04:32:54 pm

 hi
 i think the sapphire tool is rubbish and not worth the money!

 cheers

john
















p.s. i dont own one and have never used one and dont know what i am talking about just wanted to see certain reactions  ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Paul Heath on November 22, 2011, 06:59:05 pm
Sapphire everytime....even got a new hose fitted under garentee..

Come on Jim we are waiting.. ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:00:34 pm
Let's just say if you have a portable you'll get on with it a lot better than with a truckmount.

Also if your last upholstery tool was made in the shape of a starfish and you could only use it whilst standing on your head when the moon is in capricorn, you'd probably find the sapphire easy to use and well designed.

However if you expect top quality, well-designed equipment when you're paying those sorts of prices........

I've said too much already, Simon will come and shout at me now!   :-X :-*
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 22, 2011, 09:05:15 pm
Jim is talking absolute and complete rubbish. We have used them on thousands and thousands of chairs, not just the odd suite here and there. ;)

Simon
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:12:25 pm
Simon is talking absolute and complete rubbish, I have extensively used the tool for exactly the same domestic type of work that 99.99% of other carpet cleaners will be using it for ;)
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 22, 2011, 09:17:46 pm
What upholstery tool do you prefer atm James?

Shaun
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:21:36 pm
Stair wand ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 22, 2011, 09:22:58 pm
Jim,
Your hose collapsed so you automatically think the whole tool is rubbish. If you really had put it through its paces across a wide range of different fabrics and seating configurations and not just domestic use your assessment would have some credibility, as it stands you've cleaned a few suites with it, big deal. But I accept you don't like it which is fair enough.
I love it

Simon
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:32:11 pm
Simon, I have put it through its paces thank you very much, I use it almost daily, and not just on easy to clean commercial seating.

The whole tool leaves much to be desired from a design perspective - it has been designed by an imbecile and certainly wasn't tested for truckmount use before its launch.  The vac hose collapsing is just one of its design faults, and one of the few that's actually addressable.

If you could take the vacuum slot off the sapphire and add it to the drimaster 2 you'd have the perfect upholstery tool.  So until then....
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Paul Moss on November 22, 2011, 09:32:19 pm
Jim I think mine is the dogs danglies.
Are you sure you have bought the right version. Did you buy the left or right handed version?
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:32:57 pm
FFS I said don't get me started!!!!!
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 22, 2011, 09:34:46 pm
I find that my Cfr tool gives a deeper clean, I have used the Sapphire on numerous suites but realistical I think a slight change in technique would help but I'm happy with my cfr albeit £400 lighter by buying the sapphire.

Shaun
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Paul Moss on November 22, 2011, 09:37:58 pm
FFS I said don't get me started!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D
Your too easy
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 22, 2011, 09:43:15 pm
I know :'( :'(
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: oliver collins on November 22, 2011, 09:48:44 pm
Hi

If any one doesnt like their sapphire and its in good nick would you take an offer ?

Oliver Collins
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Paul Moss on November 22, 2011, 09:49:42 pm
There you go Jimbo, ur chance to get rid.
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 22, 2011, 09:52:19 pm
Jim,
What you consider putting it through its paces and what I consider it to be are obviously two different things. We clean 3,000 seating units on ship refit in a week and so my pair have cleaned thousands and thousands in constant use day after day, after day, non-stop whilst attached to one of the most powerful truck mounts in the world and yet no hose collapses and no faults. We use them side-by-side with two Drimaster 2's which are as good were they not so cumbersome with a tendency to catch on certain fabrics, but my guy's prefer the SS tool because it is light and versatile, easy to use and yet produces superb quality across a wide range of soil conditions, including extremely dirty pub seating.

Simon
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 22, 2011, 10:05:42 pm
Offer on mine!

Shaun
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 22, 2011, 10:18:15 pm
I'll give u a tenner and a groupon voucher for a nasal hair removal session worth £75 ;D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 22, 2011, 10:36:54 pm
So tempted but just used the missus's straighteners on my nasal hair and they look all the rage now.

Shaun
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 22, 2011, 10:41:38 pm
Bugger!
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: oliver collins on November 24, 2011, 09:40:38 pm
Hi Shaun

Would love to make you an offer can you email me at olivercollins79@yahoo.co.uk

Dont want to insult you so give me a between pice mark

Thanks Oliver
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Jim_77 on November 24, 2011, 09:44:37 pm
Wrong approach with Shaun, remember he's from Yorkshire.  Start low :D
Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 24, 2011, 09:50:42 pm
James bugger off!

If you offer/Text something decent I may take it! my specialised auction text number is 07902 874683

Shaun

Title: Re: CFR Handtool VS SAPPHIRE HANDTOOL
Post by: oliver collins on November 24, 2011, 09:58:01 pm
Hi

I am from yorkshire as well north of you shaun in, cleveland east riding as it use to be known

Dont mean to insult you but it is in good nick i hope

Oliver