Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Chris Cottrell on December 03, 2005, 11:07:51 pm
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Oh Yeah,
How much was the Giraffe though?
I've asked all the local suppliers.... They won't even quote me!
Be fair man, include all your stock if you're going to gloat! ;)
Pj
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VERY GOOD: BUT WHAT YEAH GOING TO POWER IT WITH? GET YOURSELF AN 80 AMP LEISURE BATTERY FOR A WHOLE DAYS WORK.
GAZA
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I got my ro from Ro-Man
25 ltr barrels from a local supplier, Pure Freedom trolley and pole from Andrew Mc Cann, its got the battery and pump already built in fits in back of an estate car. Ive never looked back 8)
Brett
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Damn computers thats only half my post and none of my pics
last night the upload file was full and is today also
I'll try the full posting later
Sorry
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d**n computers thats only half my post and none of my pics
last night the upload file was full and is today also
I'll try the full posting later
Sorry
That's a relief. I thought the giraffe was a new type of waterfed pole system. You know, give it lots to drink before you go out, position it by the windows, teach it to spit on windows at command.
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I think its about time we had a larger upload file
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............. of my attempt at DIY then ……
will it last long?
This has cost me about £580.00 all told
100 Gpd R/O from Ro-Man £145.41
30ft pole assembly from Gardiner £156.23
Trolley from Machine mart £ 30.50
6x 25ltr water drums from Cleantec £ 30.00
Varistream2 from Cleantec £ 75.00
Shurflow 100 psi pump from Cleantec £ 89.00
Battery from local supplier £ 26.00
2 x Hozeloc stop connectors £ 7.90
2 x S/Steel Flexi hoses from PTS £ 5.00
Pressed steel cabinet from local scrap £ 15.00
210 ltr water butt from B&Q £ 26.00
Luggage strap from local shop £ 1.45
Plus a few other bits n pieces gleaned from my garage .... Screws nuts bolts hosepipe wire & connectors etc etc.
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I think it looks really smart.
But your pole will be a bit heavy and bulky for regular residential use - unless you have a large round consisting of lots of three story buildings.
I think an 18 foot pole of a similar make would be better.
Also how do you control your water flow? I've a 60 psi pump that spurts water out like there's no tomorrow. I've got to get a variflow for it. How does your 100 psi cope?
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how do you control your water flow?
How does your 100 psi cope?
I'm controlling mine with Varistream 2
It works like a dream ... turn it up to boost and it pumps out like you never seen but turn it down to mark 3 or 4 and it's just a slow trickle
on mark 4 it will pump up to 30ft no problem
and on the pole comment I have noticed its a bit of a monster but then I bought it for a few larger accounts that I have.
When money is not quite so tight an 18ft pole might be just the thing
I think it looks really smart.
thanks by the way
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Very well done Chris
Thats by far the best DIY trolley I have seen so far.
I think you will find the wheels a bit too small and flimsy by the look of them. I think they are solid from what I see as well so be carefull going up and down steps with it. I give my Freedom trolley some real abuse and I think its only the wheels that have saved it from some major bad bumps. I like the way you have encased your pump and battery and adding the varistream is a very good move.
Have to agree with Tosh about that 30 ft pole OUCHHHH for working on domestics. I know Xmas etc is coming up but for your sake get an 18 ft as soon as you can mate.
All in all though Chris.. seriously thats a great job you did there :)
Andrew
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Andrew
Thanks mate
Ps
I think I will need an 18ft pole but at the mo only wanted to spend once on a pole that would do it all :)
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Very impressed 8)
Glad youve finally got your pictures up mate
regards
Brett
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Nice one Chris.
go for it!
I'm sure it's paid for itself already! Build your own for your needs. Seems to be the order of things right now.
Looks really neat. That varistream 2 is a clever little thing isn't it? I hope it doesn't wear out the pump! I've got one too. I leave it running far too long I'm sure.
A lot more 'street cred' than that giraffe you use. All that poo you had to clear up.
Pj
Room for a couple of lagers in the summer!
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A lot more 'street cred' than that giraffe you use. All that poo you had to clear up.
Pj
Room for a couple of lagers in the summer!
The roses are doin great though Pj
And Cheers
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chris
nice system :)
the only thing i would change and this inst a critisim, its just so people dont make the same mistake
the pipe connections (in and out) are better mounted on the top of the box, and NOT THE SIDE, as when you go down alleys / side paths, you hit the connections and they break, i know this from my experience
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Nice setup , one thing i have noticed tho is ...... if you have to go up a step , does that metal box cause you any problems being so low down ?
I use the exact same pole , i was going to go for a shorter one but i would never be able to reach the windows above conservs , do all you 18 foot users take 2 poles to the backs with you ?
Rich P @ F
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does that metal box cause you any problems being so low down ?
I have noticed if I lean trolley down too far the box does scrape the floor so it may be a problem going up steps but then there aren't many trolleys that are good for going up steps
But also I'm 6ft so trolley is useually at about 100-110 Degrees, if I was shorter it might lean over more and catch the ground.
Nice setup Rich P @ F
And thanks
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Chris do you have a full setup in your van aswell ?
I have played with the idea of makin a trolley but not sre if i can warrant near on 600 bucks on it ,
Rich P @ F
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but then there aren't many trolleys that are good for going up steps
<<<<<<<< oh yes there is one!! ;D
Andrew
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Hoses go up steps too! ;D ;D ;D
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Well done chris,
Looks good.
I notice that you bought your pole assembly form us, we are offering a free upgrade to the nylon jets that your pole came with, we have upgraded them to machined brass jets, they are still recessed so that they will not scratch, but offer better durability and a better quality jet. They come with full instructions on how to fit them.
Give Kirsty a ring on 01726 61143 and ask her for your free upgrade to be posted to you.
Alex
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Alex
Free upgade yes yes yes
I like the sound of that will give her a ring tomorrow
I did tell kirsty that mine broke within 30 mins of use purely for her benefit though I wasn't looking for her to replace with more nylon jets which she did offer to do so brass jets sound fab
thanks again
Chris
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<<<<<<<< oh yes there is one!! ;D
Andrew
Of course there is Andrew
but then as I posted Xmas is coming
HO HO HO ;D
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BAHHH HUMBUG!!! ;D
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i hate to say it though
the best thing to go up steps etc
is a sack truck, isnt that what they are designed for ?? ?? ?
i get my sack truck up loads of steps, from old uneven 1's to the new concreate
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Excellent Chris. My setup is very much like yours. I got the bigger sack truck though with blow up tyres. I also fitted pole holders on both sides of the truck and that makes life easier. They are made from plastic drain pipe that just takes my Unger pole. The reason for having one on each side is to prevent pole collisions with overhangs. Good on you mate. Dai
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............. of my attempt at DIY then ……
will it last long?
This has cost me about £580.00 all told
Ian_Giles always gives me a wry look when I tell him I think my Shurflo back-pack is the bees-knees; better for my round than a van-mounted system.
It can go practically anywhere; lifted over walls and fences (I did this three times today); carried by hand, or transported on a shopping trolley or sack truck. No moving vehicles.
It weighs very little 'dry' and no more than 23 kg full; with 18 litres of water.
Apparantly it can pump out 420 litres of water on one battery charge, although I've never used more than 200 litres. Probably more like 150 - 175. I use it for tops only; mostly.
If you're cack-handed at DIY, get a Shurflo back-pack. Even if you have a 1000 litre van-mounted system, I'm sure it'll not go to waste.
And I think it's far superior than some of the trolley systems I've seen.
But my round is still fairly undeveloped. I have very few 'large jobs'. I'll have been a window cleaner for three years next March. So I'm inexperienced.
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Can I just say , before I get too many pats on the back, credit where credits due. Allthough I agree with Tosh I think my trolley is the bees knees , its another variation of a theme.
My insiration for this project came from Matt , If he had not posted pics of his trolley on here then i would have probably have gone down one of the other routes Brodex,Ionics etc , It was only after seeing his trolley that I thought I can do that , Thats not to say I would never have done this , but I would Probably have spent thousands on something I may not have ever used to it's full extent before I had realised I could DIY. so Thank you Matt You and your'e diy site is very informative , you have sown the WFP seed for me , Now it's onward and upward
Regards to Matt and everyone on this Forum I have learn't a vast amount from you guys & girls.
Chris :)
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i take it you could also run this as a van mount if needed like the freedom, i must admit that my heart is set on the freedom but when i think of what i could come up with i am very very tempted, but also want a tank in the van for larger work
cheers excellent effort chris, cheers paul
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Chris, your's looks much better and is half the price of this set up with is naff.
It costs £1000 or £1250 with delivery:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/tosh0987/2d_2.jpg)
It probably would work, but it looks extremely dodgy and a complete rip-off to me.
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Can I just say , before I get too many pats on the back, credit where credits due. Allthough I agree with Tosh I think my trolley is the bees knees , its another variation of a theme.
My insiration for this project came from Matt , If he had not posted pics of his trolley on here then i would have probably have gone down one of the other routes Brodex,Ionics etc , It was only after seeing his trolley that I thought I can do that , Thats not to say I would never have done this , but I would Probably have spent thousands on something I may not have ever used to it's full extent before I had realised I could DIY. so Thank you Matt You and your'e diy site is very informative , you have sown the WFP seed for me , Now it's onward and upward
Regards to Matt and everyone on this Forum I have learn't a vast amount from you guys & girls.
Chris :)
cheers chris
its posts like this that make me think "Aye, i do help a few out, despite what some think of the DIY site"
many thanks, you have made me smile tonight :)
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i take it you could also run this as a van mount if needed like the freedom, i must admit that my heart is set on the freedom but when i think of what i could come up with i am very very tempted, but also want a tank in the van for larger work
cheers excellent effort chris, cheers paul
yes, just run the FEED bit of pipe into a tank in your van
job done ;)
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Yeah Tosh... and he is from Grimsby where we make the Freedom system.
No idea who he is HONESTLY
We are the grimsby good guys :)
Andrew
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but then there aren't many trolleys that are good for going up steps
<<<<<<<< oh yes there is one!! ;D
Andrew
That'll be the Freedom Trolley ;) ;) 8)
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Can I just say , before I get too many pats on the back, credit where credits due. Allthough I agree with Tosh I think my trolley is the bees knees , its another variation of a theme.
My insiration for this project came from Matt , If he had not posted pics of his trolley on here then i would have probably have gone down one of the other routes Brodex,Ionics etc , It was only after seeing his trolley that I thought I can do that , Thats not to say I would never have done this , but I would Probably have spent thousands on something I may not have ever used to it's full extent before I had realised I could DIY. so Thank you Matt You and your'e diy site is very informative , you have sown the WFP seed for me , Now it's onward and upward
Regards to Matt and everyone on this Forum I have learn't a vast amount from you guys & girls.
Chris :)
Ive been thinking on this post all day, its been freezing all day and ive been itching to get home and warm
Isnt it funny, when a "good post" like this is posted by some1 about me or the DIY site, NONE of the backstabbers and 2 faced idiots who grace the net seem to comment
YET
they are still sat on the PC waiting to "stick another knife in" or "slag of the DIY route" at the earliest chance
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Easy boy, easy now!
Enjoy the deserved praise.
There's a time to keep quiet!
Just my opinion.
Pj (a diy supporter)
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Good advice Morph.
I really dont know what more you can expect than praise and thanks like that Matt. What other comments do you expect? I think that Chris said it all really.
Your site is very informative and helpull for those who CHOOSE to go down the DIY route. Look at what Chris achieved using it and he thanked you for it.
Making inflamatory posts like you have done here will only invite attacks.
Calm down and chill.
Andrew
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Chris, where do you get those connectors that fit onto your box?
I've been looking for some like that for mine. Dai
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Dai
If you mean the hozeloc connecters they came with the surflow pump but you can get those from most garden centres
I think this is what you mean
http://www.garden4less.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=2175
Or this one
http://www.garden4less.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=94752
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Hi Chris, yes they look the same as the ones that screw onto your garden tap.
That being the case how do you connect them to your pump hose? Can you buy an adapter. It looks to me that you would need a threaded pipe for them to screw onto, like the thread on the tap. This would then have to be connected to the hose coming from and going into your pump. DAI
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Dai
the pipe thet i have was from PTS (plumbing trade supplies) its 1/2 inch flexi hose normally found under your kitchen sink
they have 1/2 inch female screw connecter on one end which you can connect staight to your pump and 1/2 Compression joint on the other just remove the nut and the olive from other end and screw on Hozeloc adapter then Hozeloc quick fit connecter I drilled 25mm hole in the box put adapter on inside and screwed quick fit connecter on the outside (needed to use plenty of ptfe tape to seal it up)
Hope this helps
Chris
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Cheers for that Chris, I will look into it. DAI
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Dai
Did you find what you were looking for ?
I found the invoice today and can give you the part no if you need
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Nice setup , one thing i have noticed tho is ...... if you have to go up a step , does that metal box cause you any problems being so low down ?
I use the exact same pole , i was going to go for a shorter one but i would never be able to reach the windows above conservs , do all you 18 foot users take 2 poles to the backs with you ?
Rich P @ F
i find my 18' reaches above all conservatories. thata a very tidy looking trolley though, fair play
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N o Chris, my Surflow came with two half inch holes either side. I bought two L shape fittings that srewed into these holes, I then pushed the pipe onto these and fastened with jubilee clips. I do have a lengh of flexi pipe off a washing machine and one end will screw onto a hoselock connector, male connectors come with 2 sizes of thread, You can screw them together to make a double male connector. My flexi hose fits on the narrow thread. I need a piece of threaded tube with the same thread as a garden tap. I could then screw on male conectors each side of the box.
The links you posted showed the same connectors that you screw on garden taps.
I can't get my head round this one mate. There must be fittings out there that I have not seen yet. DAI