Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Lee GLS on November 15, 2011, 06:29:01 pm
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Don't do much commercial work but what would you charge for this outside 4 weekly, inside every 8 weeks.
I don't really do any commercial, I know it won't take long to pole the outside, but not sure what he going rates are
Ta :-*
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IS that the lot lee no back windows?
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20 outside 25 in for me mate
Nice easy job
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I'm afraid so dan, not much to do really.
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Don't do much commercial work but what would you charge for this outside 4 weekly, inside every 8 weeks.
I don't really do any commercial, I know it won't take long to pole the outside, but not sure what he going rates are
Ta :-*
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w202/sierragls/8a96d978.jpg)
Well you could do that in and out pretty quickly once the first clean is out of the way - especially if you use Easyshine pads on the inside (not for first clean though). If you're prepared to take a bit of a hit on the first clean, I suggest you charge what you would expect to turn over in one hour to one hour and a quarter and add a little bit just in case. First clean will be longer for the usual reasons - especially as you will probably need to squeegee the inside. You may even want to allow a bit longer if you have to work around a lot of stuff on the inside or if you intend to squeegee it every time. Quoting for someone else can be a minefield but I would probably say £15 for outside, £18 for inside, do the maintenance cleans in 20 mins/50 - 55 mins and take a hit on the first clean. Some would say that's a bit high for commercial and they may be right. Others would want more. I think that's a pretty decent slightly higher than mid-range price. I've timed from pulling up to pulling away and allowed time not to feel rushed. So £15 for 20 mins outside. £33 for 50-55 mins in and out. Sure it could be done more quickly but I try to price a job to do it at a pace I can sustain all day rather than think of it as if it's the only job of the day. Of course, if you want to make sure you get it, maybe go £10 outs and £22 the lot and rush it and risk cocking it up.
One tip BTW. When you post a pic, mask out the company name in case someone on here tries to get in there before you.
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i look at £1 a windows so 32 windows round that of to £30 outsides
and i say £45 for insides
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£25 outside £35 inside
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£25 outer £25 inner
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30 outs
35 ins with trad
get there early as poss, you'll be out in an hour or so.
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A flat rate per visit, whether its in or out each time you visit just outside £30.00 x 6 months and £45.00 x 6 months for in & out which is a total of £450.00 per year divide by 12 months gives you £37.50 per visit. :) :)
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I'm surprised by some of these quotations. IMO there's less than an hours work there for in and out once you get past the first clean. Maybe that could be stretched to £40 or even £45 but surely no higher? I've found that these sort of jobs often (but not always) need to be priced very differently from domestics. £1 a window (with a minimum charge) is fine on domestics where the windows are dotted around the building but will not get much work when the windows are all next to each other. On the glass time for the outsides (excluding initial clean) is surely no more than 15 minutes?
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A flat rate per visit, whether its in or out each time you visit just outside £30.00 x 6 months and £45.00 x 6 months for in & out which is a total of £450.00 per year divide by 12 months gives you £37.50 per visit. :) :)
I've worked like that on the occasional job.
You can pretty much rely on it that they start with a full clean and end with a full clean - thus getting a free inside clean :) . The only time that didn't happen was when it was a weekly clean for a shop (fortnightly for insides). The job finished at the end of December and at the end of November they asked me not to do the insides till January to make sure their Xmas displays weren't knocked over. What neither of us knew at the time was that the job was to finish at the end of December :)
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In and out £110 plus vat
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Lee,
Price would be dependant on a few things.
Do the outsides have to be done outside of their normal working hours? You can't have wfp going if people are in and out all day.
Would it be a specific day/time to do the insides? what access do you have to insides, ie desks in front of windows etc etc
I would also sell cleaning down the whole of the front of the building arund the windows area on the first clean and maybe every 12 weeks.........the amount of debris that will be held on that centre section will happily drip down to the lower windows if you don't. :)
Straightforward window clean outsides £40 plus vat, insides £50 plus vat
Including the whole front clean off as above £120 - £150 plus vat.
Any others on the same site you could get on aswell?
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I do a similar type job maybe a few more windows and charge 60quid every 6 weeks.it takes me 45 mins outside only.
I would charge 40quid outside.80 for inside and out.6 or 8 weekly.
Prices quoted above are too low imo.you want to be earning 40quid plus an hour on new commercial work.remember you ve still got to drive to your next job!
Regards
Dazmond
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Paul ( Colman) got to agree with Dazmond and a few more.
£15 even monthly clean ain`t enough.
Price and flame wars aint my cuppa tea,I`ve never posted on
Anything like this before.
Even if say an office girl pays ya by petty cash with a `chitty`
Receipt on completion it ain`t enough.
80 per cent of my work is just like in the `pic`.
I`d try to get the job on a 2 monthly arrangement outside and
3 or 4 monthly inside/outside.
WFP every 2 months I find is ideal and would try to `sell`it to
The customer/client on those terms.
I recon ya need to be around double the price your stating. :o :o
Lewis Doubtfire
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In and out £110 plus vat
You wouldn't get the job would you lol!!!!
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Paul ( Colman) got to agree with Dazmond and a few more.
£15 even monthly clean ain`t enough.
Price and flame wars aint my cuppa tea,I`ve never posted on
Anything like this before.
Even if say an office girl pays ya by petty cash with a `chitty`
Receipt on completion it ain`t enough.
80 per cent of my work is just like in the `pic`.
I`d try to get the job on a 2 monthly arrangement outside and
3 or 4 monthly inside/outside.
WFP every 2 months I find is ideal and would try to `sell`it to
The customer/client on those terms.
I recon ya need to be around double the price your stating. :o :o
Lewis Doubtfire
No flaming here - just stating how it is around my way on jobs like that. I have managed to get jobs like that as £30 in + £30 out but I've nearly always been undercut within a year or so. I said £33 in and out and I could get fair change from an hour by using the Easyshine pads. Hour for hour that would be maybe £40 an hour on the glass.
Don't get me wrong, if it wasn't local to me the price would be higher.
I live a mile or so from a large light industrial estate and I know what many of the guys are charging for work like that because I recently had a discussion with someone who was retiring about buying up his work. If you think that £33 in and out for that one was low, you should have seen his rates. I decided against buying purely on the rates but I think he sold it elsewhere anyway in the end. The trouble is, many of the guys bump the jobs so I've had to keep the prices lowish and find the quickest ways of working - WITHOUT bumping.
Although I live in the south-east, I'm in a very working class area with a plentiful labour supply so that might hold the rates down a bit - one of the reasons I tend to travel out of town for most of my work.
Although I said £33, on that estate, I doubt you would even get that unless you are in with the manager.
I do have a larger job nearby that I earn very well from. I quoted it before I realised just how quick I could be with WFP and before I was aware of the Easyshine pads. I got it because I am trustworthy apparently and although I have a good price on it (even by others' standards ;D ), I have held this job for a few years. The previous guy used to slap in invoices without doing the window cleaning so I'm told (caught out by CCTV). So it can be done but it's a problem if someone is looking at price and nothing else.
BTW. I'm not a flamer. I think that is counter productive ;D .
A different tack now. Rather than giving prices, would a few people care to give times on how long they estimate the job would take (please state whether "on the glass" or "arrival to departure")? I'm starting to wonder if my hourly rate might be a bit low. Also, please state the cleaning method that you would use for the insides (I find the pads can halve the time - or more).
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for me it would depend when the job outside could be done, if could be done early morning when no one was around and wouldnt affect my day,
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From some of prices that people are quoting I can see why there is no money in commercial anymore!
You can't beat a good paying domestic round!
Andy
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i would suggest a good paying commercial round is fantastic if you can get it right. I have a shopping street where i clean about 30 of the shops. Now i charge on average 5 quid per shop and im there for about 3 hours. sometimes compared to the hassle of other work, i wish shopping streets just went on for miles and miles
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Good paying commercial is fantastic, poor paying commercial is a total waste of time.
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i agree.i absolutely wouldnt take the job on unless it was £40 outside/£80 in and out.i would push for the longer frequency as well(6 or 8 weekly)then it doesnt seem like your there every 2 mins!!
first clean 2 hours (inside and out)
subsequent cleans 40 mins outside only.90 mins inside and out.that includes set up and pulling away.then 10 min drive say to your next job.this is taking it at a steady pace no rushing then id comfortably make £40 an hour with a bit of time left over.
if i could only make £25-£30 an hour on commercial id rather stick to doing domestics to be honest as i have piles of it.
i look at small compact domestic as my main bread and butter work with some great paying mid range and larger domestics and commercial as good bonus work.works for me.
regards
dazmond
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£25 outer £25 inner
why would charge more for the inside
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interesting price ranges there, but the majority are what i was thinking. The good thing is its 2 seconds down the road from another small commercial i do.
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how much you put on it then lee co'mon spill ;)
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for me it would depend when the job outside could be done, if could be done early morning when no one was around and wouldnt affect my day,
Not much point doing the job cheaper just because it can be done at a different time to domestic work. If anything ....quote higher for regular day every repeat interval commitment from you.