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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 06:51:27 pm

Title: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 06:51:27 pm
Good evening all,

I have a trolley setup that i use for about half of my monthly work its a wcw system.. Now from day one i have always used clx with two super lite brushes with pencil jets (flow controller set between 30/35) for rinsing..

I bought some of gardiners fan jets for a change to see how i'd get on with them and to help rinsing hydrophobic glass... so i went out to work with my fan jets installed today but in order to achieve fan spray i need to turn the flow rate up to 50/60 which works great but i'd be doing a 25L drum twice as fast.. If i keep the flow rate at 30/35 its niether pencil or fan    :o

Can anyone advise if im doing something wrong here please!!!!
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: andyM on November 11, 2011, 07:46:26 pm
I use a Superlite DT Mono brush with fan jets and rinse on the glass.
Yes your flow rate will be higher but if you work at a decent speed and rinse on the glass you should find you actually use less water.
 
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 07:52:25 pm
what do you set ur flow rate at to achieve a decent rinse???
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Smudger on November 11, 2011, 08:08:02 pm
I've used fans for nearly 2 years - and altho it sounds strange to have a higher flow rate and use less water
that is exactly the case -the fan spreads the water right across the width of the brush and you get an instant
curtain of water down the glass so saving time & water rinsing.

i have my pure freedom controllers set at 62

the new gardiners fan are really good far more punchy than lurmark ones on the same flow rate

Darran
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 08:16:45 pm
I've used fans for nearly 2 years - and altho it sounds strange to have a higher flow rate and use less water
that is exactly the case -the fan spreads the water right across the width of the brush and you get an instant
curtain of water down the glass so saving time & water rinsing.

i have my pure freedom controllers set at 62

the new gardiners fan are really good far more punchy than lurmark ones on the same flow rate

Darran

Once i got into things i must say its far quicker working with fans i just wasnt sure turning up the controller to 50/60 was saving water.. so the fan jets at purefreedom are not as good as the new gardiners then?
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Smudger on November 11, 2011, 08:50:23 pm
the Lurmark ones are excellent ( and available from many different suppliers )

and have been the best on the market by far - but i tried out the new gardiner ones yesterday and found the
fan spray produced was more powerful on the glass at the same flow rate - so this could lead to
even quicker rinsing OR a slightly slower flow rate but still clean as quick as other fan jets.

Darran
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 09:06:38 pm
the Lurmark ones are excellent ( and available from many different suppliers )

and have been the best on the market by far - but i tried out the new gardiner ones yesterday and found the
fan spray produced was more powerful on the glass at the same flow rate - so this could lead to
even quicker rinsing OR a slightly slower flow rate but still clean as quick as other fan jets.

Darran

The holes smaller on the lurmark then causing more mist with less power mate?? I might buy some for my other brush head that's all..
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 11, 2011, 09:19:46 pm
Are the holes smaller on the lurmark then causing more mist with less power mate?? I might buy some for my other superlite brush..

Do the lurmarks get knocked about on the frames while cleaning cause they look like they stick out abit..
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: andyM on November 12, 2011, 08:47:08 am
Are the holes smaller on the lurmark then causing more mist with less power mate?? I might buy some for my other superlite brush..

Do the lurmarks get knocked about on the frames while cleaning cause they look like they stick out abit..


I use the Lurmark fan jets and they do stick out a bit from the brush stock but never had a problem with them scratching any frames or glass.
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 12, 2011, 04:17:04 pm
I've used fan and pencil and am happy with either. But use a tap to regulate flow.

I use a tap on the hip to control flow and when I use fan but want a low flow pencil pattern I turn it down (say on leaky frames/georgian/running along just under the top edge of aluminium frames/perished seals just below the powder coating/seal etc) and it becomes a light pencil.

Obviously pencils stay pencil but with lower flow.

Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 12, 2011, 08:39:18 pm
Anyone using these fan jets and any advice on fitting please   ;D

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_BRU_FAN_JETS.html


I've snapped one of the new gardiner plastic type today... only started using them yesters (GUTTED)


Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2011, 09:07:17 pm
AVO, it depends what brush you are using, if you have an extreme then use the new fan jets, but if you have a standard super lite then those blue fan jets are very good.
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 12, 2011, 09:21:40 pm
'mono super-lite dt' so is this brush good for the job lee... hows come the extreme aint no good?
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2011, 09:26:14 pm
you need to drill a larger hole for the blue fans jets and you end up loosing some bunches of bristles, you can fit them too the extreme but you have to be very careful when drilling the bigger hole.

see here this is my exteme with fan jets. http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=125429.0
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Smudger on November 12, 2011, 09:38:51 pm
thats not a brush ! it's a tooth pick  ;D ;D ;D


AG has sorted me a new DT Mono - will report back soon  ;D ;)

Darran
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 12, 2011, 09:43:27 pm
you need to drill a larger hole for the blue fans jets and you end up loosing some bunches of bristles, you can fit them too the extreme but you have to be very careful when drilling the bigger hole.

see here this is my exteme with fan jets. http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=125429.0


Yeah i see what your saying the extreme looks alot thinner in width but looks like you did a top job on fitting them.. what size y peice and hose is needed and do i drill straight through or just halfway into the brush???
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 12, 2011, 09:48:44 pm
thats not a brush ! it's a tooth pick  ;D ;D ;D


AG has sorted me a new DT Mono - will report back soon  ;D ;)

Darran

I stopped using the dt mono for a while but amazing on glass rinse glad to have it on again..
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2011, 10:22:38 pm
Darren me to  :o :o :o ;D

gonna use it next week
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: dave f on November 13, 2011, 08:50:43 pm
 flow rate seems to me very high i use 30 max  no probs at all i use pencil jets
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: lee09 on November 13, 2011, 09:22:57 pm
Anyone using these fan jets and any advice on fitting please   ;D

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/info_BRU_FAN_JETS.html


I've snapped one of the new gardiner plastic type today... only started using them yesters (GUTTED)




I snapped one on my first day with them I rang the office and told them, it was replaced foc.
Make the call.
Title: Re: rinse off
Post by: Avo on November 13, 2011, 09:47:28 pm
Really mate I'm on the phone first thing  ;D I thought they might tell me to jog on lol.. I think I cracked it on the juliet balcony Friday.