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Title: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 08, 2011, 04:24:36 pm
Hi guy's just got a club to do and it's 3 different carpets and i use Dry Fusion.

1st is full 100% wool Axminster Not a Problem i'm low moister with woolsafe approved Chemical.

2nd like the 1st.

3rd around snooker tables is tight ropy hardwearing floor tiles full of blacktop in areas.

Now as i don't have a Restore Brush for my machine yet to work on the blacktop i was gonna blast it 1st with my steamer while water extracting then clean as normal with Dry Fusion.

I have done this on Carpet before and the steam works great but there is quite alot this time and i would like to know if there's a better way with limited tools at my disposel??????
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 08, 2011, 05:17:58 pm
You're going to be struggling with a DF system, especially on black top. Why not hire an extractor?

Simon
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Len Gribble on November 08, 2011, 06:41:44 pm
Phillip

I’m intrigued (i was gonna blast it 1st with my steamer while water extracting) can you elaborate?

I echo Simon but you could also do it as a joint venture with an extracting cc.


Len
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: markpowell on November 08, 2011, 06:56:10 pm
Powerburst with citraboost hot, agitate with rotary, leave 15 mins and extract hot.
I would not fancy your chances with the DF to be honest mate.
Mark
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon@arenaclean on November 08, 2011, 08:36:55 pm
I find Enzall works better, good dwell and rotary with a post bonnet after extraction rinse with clearwater rinse. I agree with others I don't think DF will be that successful.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: mark joyce on November 08, 2011, 08:40:49 pm
powerburst through the rotary with a green pad will cut the black top off then extract keep it very wet and it will be all good
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Carpet Dawg on November 08, 2011, 08:42:09 pm
I find Enzall works better, good dwell and rotary with a post bonnet after extraction rinse with clearwater rinse. I agree with others I don't think DF will be that successful.

I second that. Enzall (at 60 degrees) all the way for a job like this.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 08, 2011, 10:56:51 pm
Me cleaning a pub carpet thick with black top. No prespotting. No prevaccing. Cleaned at 50psi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blixBc2HBqo

Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Jim_77 on November 08, 2011, 11:02:43 pm
Phillip :(  Sounds like you're going to struggle :-\

If carpet #3 is what I think it is, heavy duty needlecord (polyprop stuff in ridges).. it is a challenge for any system.  How about sub that bit out to a local truckmounter, who'll be able to get some serious heat and flow on it to flush it out

I reckon you could DF the rest but it'll be a minger
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 09, 2011, 08:26:55 am
Me cleaning a pub carpet thick with black top. No prespotting. No prevaccing. Cleaned at 50psi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blixBc2HBqo



Where's the thick black top?

Simon
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Steve Gunn on November 09, 2011, 08:30:46 am
Me cleaning a pub carpet thick with black top. No prespotting. No prevaccing. Cleaned at 50psi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blixBc2HBqo



I did a carpet tiled kitchen with worse black top than that last week that's just a grubby pub carpet
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 09, 2011, 08:36:23 am
And, there isn't any way on God's merry earth an Extracta power brush at 50 psi can clean a dry carpet that quickly - no way. ;D

Simon
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 09, 2011, 08:41:51 am
And, there isn't any way on God's merry earth an Extracta power brush at 50 psi can clean a dry carpet that quickly - no way. ;D

Simon

I find your lack of faith disturbing!

But your right mate 50psi would probably have been pushing it Id say it was about 40-45psi come to think of it. Do you think I should have increased the psi?
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 09, 2011, 08:48:43 am
Yikes!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 09, 2011, 09:41:39 am
Cheers for all the info i appreciate it but i'm gonna go ahead and try myself rather than sub it out the other carpet's will be mint with the DF and i'l get stuck into the other with my steamer not scared of a bit of hard graft lol.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 09, 2011, 09:45:34 am
Phillip
Hi Len what i mean is i'l setup my steam machine and blast the blacktop while i'm using the upholstery tool to extract at the same time.
I’m intrigued (i was gonna blast it 1st with my steamer while water extracting) can you elaborate?

I echo Simon but you could also do it as a joint venture with an extracting cc.


Len

Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: robert meldrum on November 09, 2011, 10:14:35 am
Looks like an excellent result and the evidence of the degree of soiling can be seen in the clear section of the return tube. It's unusual to find a carpet entirely covered by black top so maybe it's just not visible in the video.

The result is impressive anyway and yes it might have been quicker with a more powerful machine and with high heat, but should " Sky " care ?  Don't think so.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 09, 2011, 11:29:38 am
Phillip,
Take some pictures so we can see the results.

Simon
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 09, 2011, 05:43:07 pm
Looks like an excellent result and the evidence of the degree of soiling can be seen in the clear section of the return tube. It's unusual to find a carpet entirely covered by black top so maybe it's just not visible in the video.

The result is impressive anyway and yes it might have been quicker with a more powerful machine and with high heat, but should " Sky " care ?  Don't think so.

Robert may the force be with you...always!

And your right by the way I don't care! I get a a huge amount of work from that video so why should I care what other carpet cleaners think? Interestingly most of the knockers are the ones with big thirsty truckmounts...hmmmm!!!

Actually I'll come clean. The video isn't real. It's a con! I paid these guys... http://www.ilm.com/ $2,000,000 and they put the video together for me. Naughty I know but as long as Joe Public doesn't find out who gives a monkeys?

Thanks for the post Robert I owe you a pint!
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 09, 2011, 06:06:09 pm
Me cleaning a pub carpet thick with black top. No prespotting. No prevaccing. Cleaned at 50psi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blixBc2HBqo



I did a carpet tiled kitchen with worse black top than that last week that's just a grubby pub carpet

I never said it was bad black top but it is black top never the less. Just relax
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Len Gribble on November 09, 2011, 07:00:57 pm
Come lads we all know what true black top is and it ant a little bit here and there  ;) ;)


Phillip

Before and after pictures
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 09, 2011, 08:17:24 pm
excellent result len that is blacktop lol, the blacktop i'm doing is thick but only in random patches i'l take pics of the whole job before and after then post em ere.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Steve Gunn on November 09, 2011, 08:27:25 pm
I've used d/f on black top in the past restoration brush followed by heavy duty pad results were excellent considering it did take a lot longer than if I'd used hwe but given it was done through the night and I was locked in the pub
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Jim_77 on November 10, 2011, 12:30:47 am
Not the kind of lock in I prefer Steve!
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Steve Rothwell on November 10, 2011, 07:30:20 am
so we have heard Jim.......

 ;D
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 10, 2011, 12:08:25 pm
Lol Jim i agree with you there and also i don't have the restore brush at the moment DF prices just to high nearly £300 with vat so steamer and extract at same time with my upholstery tool if it removes gum it removes blacktop.
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Len Gribble on November 10, 2011, 08:02:01 pm
Phillip

300quid is defiantly over the top for a brush!!! have you considered the likes of a low speed second-hand numatic machine including a brush I got one for 20quid and made a fortune from it.  :-*  Or from a different perspective white/red pad with a skirt! ;)


Steve

Did you find another DF system?


Oh me in a lock in slept like a baby  ;D
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on November 11, 2011, 01:12:36 pm
Anyone got 1 for sale cheap via paypal????????????? none on ebay
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Jim_77 on November 11, 2011, 10:23:57 pm
You could probably buy a good second hand victor machine with brush and drive plate for less than £300 if you scout around a bit!!

Len, is the photo blanked out because you had a dummy in your mouth and are embarrassed about it?!!
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Steve Gunn on November 12, 2011, 05:30:58 pm
Phillip

300quid is defiantly over the top for a brush!!! have you considered the likes of a low speed second-hand numatic machine including a brush I got one for 20quid and made a fortune from it.  :-*  Or from a different perspective white/red pad with a skirt! ;)


Steve

Did you find another DF system?



Oh me in a lock in slept like a baby  ;D


No none about
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Len Gribble on November 12, 2011, 06:55:39 pm
Jim

Dummy yes it’s my comfort zone, embarrassed yes clients CCTV


Steve

Will keep an eye out for you
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: benny d on November 15, 2011, 08:11:38 am
@ Skywalker -
What cleaning system are you using on your YouTube video?
Thanks
Title: Re: Blacktop in pub.
Post by: Aquakleen Restoration Services on November 15, 2011, 08:29:35 am
Hi Benny

Just the Superchem chemical and Scrubba/Excel available from Extracta

John