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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: pure clean2o on October 29, 2011, 07:26:44 pm

Title: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on October 29, 2011, 07:26:44 pm
Hi
Went to price up new job to day
Plasters have plastered a wall over the glass they have cleaned
The glass three times but can not get water spots off .
The plaster is a self coured plaster. I think it could be k render not sure.
It comes from Germany.
Any answers as to how to clean it.
Only found out about the plasters after I had priced the job
So will have to go back and reprice.
Thanks
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Pope vader on October 29, 2011, 07:41:20 pm
is it an external glass,  had a made who was a plaster and he had this germany stuff and it is murder to get off
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on October 29, 2011, 07:48:25 pm
External glass.
No plaster left on glass.
Just lots of water marks that don't come off.
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: rosskesava on October 29, 2011, 09:29:20 pm
Try using patio cleaner.

Put on rubber gloves as it's an acid.
Wet the area around the window.
Wet a sponge.
Pour on patio cleaner slowly untill it drips out the sponge once or twice.
Wipe over window a few times.
Make sure no runs go down wall etc.
Use lots of water to wash off window.

Don't get any splashes etc onto any metal, i.e. door handles, etc. It'll discolour permantly.

Cheers
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on October 30, 2011, 12:15:29 pm
Any one help please?
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Pope vader on October 30, 2011, 12:19:56 pm
have you tried tradding it first
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on October 30, 2011, 12:56:27 pm
Yes the spots are still there.
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: john the cleaner on October 30, 2011, 07:13:06 pm
ok try wetting the window with trad mop and fairy liquid laeve a while wet again then go over it with a green scourer like you use for washing pots  then wet again and sgueegee off may need a few goes but its always worked for me with egg plant sap ect worth a try mate good luck john
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: rosskesava on October 30, 2011, 08:02:27 pm
Any one help please?

Why do you think I posted the stuff about using patio cleaner?  Because patio cleaner is an a-c-i-d.......  :-\

Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: stuart mc on October 30, 2011, 08:04:40 pm
as ross says, the spots are alkaline based so an acid is required
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: james51174 on October 30, 2011, 08:06:30 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: rosskesava on October 30, 2011, 10:26:29 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time

This is getting quite funny.

I can post what I want because what I post is invisible.

Yes.... try a razor. Brilliant.

Have you maybe wondered why cleaning company's sell (expensive) branded acid type cleaners to remove water stains, mineral deposits and like. It's obviously got nothing to do with the fact it works?

As Stu says, acid and alkalines.

Also, how is a water stain/mark/mineral deposit going to 'wear off'? What's going to happen on that paine of glass to 'wear it off'? Maybe ants with mini hobnail boots dancing the cha cha? Spiders with abrasive feet? Wasps armed with a bic razor?

 ;D






Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: stuart mc on October 30, 2011, 10:30:02 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time

This is getting quite funny.

I can post what I want because what I post is invisible.

Yes.... try a razor. Brilliant.

Have you maybe wondered why cleaning company's sell (expensive) branded acid type cleaners to remove water stains, mineral deposits and like. It's obviously got nothing to the fact it works.

As Stu says, acid and alkalines.

Also, how is a water stain/mark/mineral deposit going to 'wear off'? What's going to happen on that paine of glass to 'wear it off'? Maybe ants with mini hobnail boots dancing the cha cha? Spiders with abrasive feet? Wasps armed with a bic razor?

 ;D


;D ;D
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: rosskesava on October 30, 2011, 10:48:57 pm
Sorry to take the p..., but egg plant sap?

I went around to Mrs Jone's houses and while discussing cleaning her windows she mentioned that she had a problem with egg plant sap. I said to not worry Mrs Jones, egg plant sap can be a real problem. We in the window cleaning industry have experience of such problems and I can remove more egg plant sap than the egg plant can sap at your windows. She was so relieved when I showed her my special egg plant sap remover tools that she gave me a cup of tea. I got to work straight away and before even my tea was drunk, all the egg plant sap was removed in a jiffy.

I honestly mean no offense but it just read funny about 'egg plant sap'.
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: stuart mc on October 30, 2011, 10:51:49 pm
ok to put it simple likes, plaster is full of lime. lime is an alkaline so an acid solution is needed to remove it ;)

ok here are some suggestions, bathroom lime scale remover, patio cleaner as ross suggested, vinegar, MDR, or any other based acid, fleck me try a lemon or something anything with acid in it ;)
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on October 31, 2011, 08:41:32 am
I am not to keen on using acid  as there is quite
a lot of metal around the windows.
Also the windows are the curtain wall to a stairway
That are three floors high with no access to get a ladder
  into the court yard
So can not blade the windows as my arms are to short
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: bad trippy on October 31, 2011, 02:52:04 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time

This is getting quite funny.

I can post what I want because what I post is invisible.

Yes.... try a razor. Brilliant.

Have you maybe wondered why cleaning company's sell (expensive) branded acid type cleaners to remove water stains, mineral deposits and like. It's obviously got nothing to do with the fact it works?

As Stu says, acid and alkalines.

Also, how is a water stain/mark/mineral deposit going to 'wear off'? What's going to happen on that paine of glass to 'wear it off'? Maybe ants with mini hobnail boots dancing the cha cha? Spiders with abrasive feet? Wasps armed with a bic razor?

 ;D







;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: james51174 on October 31, 2011, 06:25:02 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time

This is getting quite funny.

I can post what I want because what I post is invisible.

Yes.... try a razor. Brilliant.

Have you maybe wondered why cleaning company's sell (expensive) branded acid type cleaners to remove water stains, mineral deposits and like. It's obviously got nothing to do with the fact it works?

As Stu says, acid and alkalines.

Also, how is a water stain/mark/mineral deposit going to 'wear off'? What's going to happen on that paine of glass to 'wear it off'? Maybe ants with mini hobnail boots dancing the cha cha? Spiders with abrasive feet? Wasps armed with a bic razor?

 ;D








i should have used tthe quote function for my post i suppose

but it wasnt in response to you..im not saying chemicals dont work on alkaline stains

my post was in response to the person advising a scourer for egg plant

then i said what I tell the customer, because i dont use such chemicals....which is my choice is it not?...im not advising YOU personally to say anything of the sort

mainly because your not the one using a scourer to remove egg plant ffs

but thanks for your sarcasm...:)



Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: dazmond on October 31, 2011, 09:41:14 pm
I was laughing at the suggestion to use fairy liquid!

I just use it for washing the dishes!

On topic i would use a special acid cleaner fr somewhere like the windowclean centre.
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Londoner on October 31, 2011, 09:49:41 pm
You want to be really careful its not some form of coated glass before you start playing with acid and scourers or scrapers. There is also the possibility that the render has etched the glass (or the coating) in which case nothing will get it off. Plaster doesn't usually but cement can etch.. If you have spots that won't come off I would start walking away now saying that you are reluctant to try using anything stronger than soap and water. Which I would imagine has already been tried

Its only a job, theres always another one right around the corner. If somebody else can get it off then good for them but I would be long gone.
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: rosskesava on October 31, 2011, 10:41:41 pm

i should have used tthe quote function for my post i suppose

but it wasnt in response to you..im not saying chemicals dont work on alkaline stains

my post was in response to the person advising a scourer for egg plant

then i said what I tell the customer, because i dont use such chemicals....which is my choice is it not?...im not advising YOU personally to say anything of the sort

mainly because your not the one using a scourer to remove egg plant ffs

but thanks for your sarcasm...:)


Point taken and appology offered.

I think had pure clean2o communicated exactly what the problem was and replied to my posting rather than ignore it, (and yes, had you used quotes as well) then maybe.... the whole thread would have gone a bit differently but he chose later to say that the window was on the 3rd floor and not on the 1st as I had assumed. He didn't even say if he was using wfp or trad.


Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: stuart mc on October 31, 2011, 10:47:47 pm
yes but the op did say that he had tried to trad, so we have to assume that was a possibility, so info given was good, my suggestion then would be the same, acid, sheet up frames if need be and use an ally scaffold, if that won't be paid for there is nothing you can do, wfp won't do that type of work
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: john the cleaner on November 01, 2011, 03:49:25 pm
ok it should have read egg and plant sap but come on anyone with even half a brain would have worked it out  there are some sarcastic pratts on here
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: james51174 on November 01, 2011, 07:54:50 pm
You want to be really careful its not some form of coated glass before you start playing with acid and scourers or scrapers.

 If you have spots that won't come off I would start walking away now saying that you are reluctant to try using anything stronger than soap and water. Which I would imagine has already been tried

Its only a job, theres always another one right around the corner. If somebody else can get it off then good for them but I would be long gone.

id go along with this actually...i dont use acids...but i do use a scraper....and some glass is coated, and scratches like a b1tch!!!!

i think it might be K coating (which i believe is supposed to be in between the glazing, but is often built the wrong side round at the factory)

most coating is quite obvious...but some is not detectable at all....and on new glass im finding it quite often these days!!!
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: james51174 on November 01, 2011, 08:00:06 pm

i should have used tthe quote function for my post i suppose

but it wasnt in response to you..im not saying chemicals dont work on alkaline stains

my post was in response to the person advising a scourer for egg plant

then i said what I tell the customer, because i dont use such chemicals....which is my choice is it not?...im not advising YOU personally to say anything of the sort

mainly because your not the one using a scourer to remove egg plant ffs

but thanks for your sarcasm...:)


Point taken and appology offered.

I think had pure clean2o communicated exactly what the problem was and replied to my posting rather than ignore it, (and yes, had you used quotes as well) then maybe.... the whole thread would have gone a bit differently but he chose later to say that the window was on the 3rd floor and not on the 1st as I had assumed. He didn't even say if he was using wfp or trad.




you know what?

this site is blinkin awfull for flame posts and bullying........

i use alot of forums for various different things, and this one is one of the worst for it

but you above post is very refreshing....and i want to thank you for renewing my enthusiasm to return here

someone who actually said sorry, and explained the problem as miscommunication :)
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: pure clean2o on November 01, 2011, 08:27:15 pm
Thanks for replying all. I think Will give this job a miss.
Sorry the post went a bit a stay. Wasn't ignoring anyone and will
 Put more info next time
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Slash on November 02, 2011, 06:07:19 pm
Urinate on the glass,leave for ten minutes and rinse with pure water
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Lee Haynes on November 02, 2011, 07:12:59 pm
not sure i would use a scourer.....

all i do is try a razor....if that doesnt work i just tell them there is nothing in my powers that i can do about it...but that it may wear off in time

This is getting quite funny.

I can post what I want because what I post is invisible.

Yes.... try a razor. Brilliant.

Have you maybe wondered why cleaning company's sell (expensive) branded acid type cleaners to remove water stains, mineral deposits and like. It's obviously got nothing to do with the fact it works?

As Stu says, acid and alkalines.

Also, how is a water stain/mark/mineral deposit going to 'wear off'? What's going to happen on that paine of glass to 'wear it off'? Maybe ants with mini hobnail boots dancing the cha cha? Spiders with abrasive feet? Wasps armed with a bic razor?

 ;D







;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Dave. on November 02, 2011, 08:12:44 pm
Urinate on the glass,leave for ten minutes and rinse with pure water

So that's why you're called slash ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: how to clean glass
Post by: Londoner on November 02, 2011, 09:23:00 pm
Urinate on the glass,leave for ten minutes and rinse with pure water

He's going to need a strong bladder to get three floors up