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Title: carrying water
Post by: giftedk on November 17, 2005, 10:35:20 am
HI all,   Ive purchased a 1000 litre valet tank to carryu the purified water in. This morning (first time) i filled it a third of the way as payload on van is only 1 ton and the force of the water was rocking me back and forth.  This made me feel very unsafe about driving like this, how do you all carry your water and is there a better method.
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: squeaky-clean 1 on November 17, 2005, 10:39:19 am
if you are carrying 100ltr im sure you have to use baffled tank or you could turn your van over on the corners? ???

Belinda
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: giftedk on November 17, 2005, 12:18:56 pm
cheers belinda does take much to baffle me .!
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Andrew McCann on November 17, 2005, 06:49:15 pm
I carry my water in 25 ltr containers  ( But then I would wouldn't I )  ;D

Best thing to do is always to ask here before buying something like a tank. THat one you have is only usefull as a static one unless you baffle it out. Someone here.. and I can't remember who has a good way of doing it using something like guttering downpipe.



Cheers


Andrew
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 17, 2005, 08:31:12 pm
Which waY SHOULD THE BAFFLES RUN SIDE TO SIDE OR FRONT TO BACK

dAVE
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 17, 2005, 08:32:50 pm
Doh

Top to bottom
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 17, 2005, 08:34:56 pm
well i knew that
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Chris Cottrell on November 17, 2005, 08:38:31 pm
Well thats allright then ;)
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 17, 2005, 08:40:21 pm
my tank as got 2 upright baffles the question is do these baffles have to face forwards or to the sides
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Morph on November 17, 2005, 08:40:33 pm
I kNeW tHaT tOO

pJ ;)
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Morph on November 17, 2005, 08:41:53 pm
yeS hTatS riGhT DavID
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Solo Cleaning on November 17, 2005, 08:44:34 pm
Quote from: david@      St-Ives on November 17, 2005, 08:40:21 pm
my tank as got 2 upright baffles the question is do these baffles have to face forwards or to the sides

Hi David

For the baffles to work they should run perpendicular to the direction of travel.
Hence car goes forward bafles go from one side of van to tuther
Does that make sense
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 17, 2005, 08:47:39 pm
Yes it does make sense i thought it was more important to baffle the side to side movement

Dave
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Morph on November 17, 2005, 08:50:57 pm
Looks like I got that wrong too!

Time for another drink!

Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: dai on November 17, 2005, 08:51:27 pm
If you use cut down drain pipe as baffles, they should run top to bottom. When you look down the filler hole it would look like a honey comb. This would baffle any movement of water in any direction. DAI
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Philip Hanson on November 20, 2005, 07:30:12 pm
You need to baffle in both directions.

Baffling side to side will stop the water surging when braking or accelerating, but will do no good for cornering.  Likewise, baffling front to back will help with cornering, but not braking.

Both effects are just as dangerous and will lead to instability or vastly increased stopping distances.  This can constitute an unsafely loaded vehicle, and if the cops see your van swaying around the road they will certainly pull you over.  Worst case scenario is a £5,000 fine.

As Dai said, use lengths of downpipe sawn and jammed into the tank vertically.  You should pack in lengths of pipe until there is no room for any more.  This will effectively baffle in all directions and will prevent surging very well.

Note: a pre-pump filter is very important as there will undoubtedly be swarf in the tank from the baffles, and this will clog the pump.

-Philip
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on November 20, 2005, 08:28:16 pm
Quote from: Andrew McCann on November 17, 2005, 06:49:15 pm
I carry my water in 25 ltr containers  ( But then I would wouldn't I )  ;D

Best thing to do is always to ask here before buying something like a tank. THat one you have is only usefull as a static one unless you baffle it out. Someone here.. and I can't remember who has a good way of doing it using something like guttering downpipe.



Cheers


Andrew
hi andrew
just clocked your trolley,
have you got a larger pic of it
and where did you get it from?
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: busydaffodil on November 20, 2005, 08:31:14 pm
Me thinks it is   http://www.freedomwfp.co.uk/trolley.html

But I could be wrong!     Just trying to be helpful.  I dont even know the guy!
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Grafters Cleaning Services on November 20, 2005, 08:35:59 pm
Quote from: busydaffodil on November 20, 2005, 08:31:14 pm
Me thinks it is   http://www.freedomwfp.co.uk/trolley.html

But I could be wrong!     Just trying to be helpful.  I dont even know the guy!
thanx
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: busydaffodil on November 20, 2005, 08:37:24 pm
WELCOME ;D
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: Andrew McCann on November 20, 2005, 09:00:30 pm
Hi Jay.

Its my company and design mate. Thanks for the help for Jay Daff  :D

watch this post self destruct very soon  ;D
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: busydaffodil on November 21, 2005, 10:39:29 am
Welcome.  ;D

*Good Deed Done for the day*
Title: Re: carrying water
Post by: DP on November 21, 2005, 12:23:53 pm
Just read this about the baffles. I was about to purchase a bog standard 400lt baffled tank to be laid flat in a trailer which would mean the baffles would run from side to side (stopping the slosh front to back).

looking at a picture of the tank I don’t think I can get anything in it lengthways to baffle the sides without serious mods.

Although mounted flat in trailer, I am guessing the effect would be the same. does anybody know who might sell tanks with baffles in both directions (or if they even exist)?

Thanks
DP